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To think im not at fault here!!!!

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Ivenamechangedsomanytimes · 28/08/2024 21:20

Long rambling Post to follow!
Long time poster, name change to hide my humiliation!!!
Perimenopausse which doesn't help but I'm on HRT, which helps somewhat.
I'm starting to think DH isn't a very nice man. Or very nice to me should I say. Been together a long time.

Different personalities but always had a good relationship. I suppose I'm a bit highly strong and perhaps talk too much and too much shit. 😅
DH has always been quite easy going and very tolerant of me and very forgiving if i upset him or had a row. (Not that I've done anything bad!!!).
Except now he's not. Over the past few years he's very intolerant of me. Calls me out on everything I do to piss him off.
I've challenged him over this and he said he's not putting up with my shit.

I can accept my faults and offer to change , or we can split if I'm so bad. He denies he's unhappy.
He says he doesn't want me to change the way I am which is confusing. But seems to think its perfectly OK to pull me up on stuff and then just expect me to forget it.

We have 2 teenagers who I have always been very close to. They are good kids.
I feel like I'm being paranoid , as I now think they are taking their dad's side.
We were on holiday last week and mostly had a fab time. One day we were out and one was cheeky to me and I pulled them up. Teen said I was crazy and embarrassing. And some of the stuff they found funny about me is no longer funny. I get that. They are teens.
Same day, we all had a minor spat whilst playing a board game. I said let's leave the game as it getting argumentative. Dh said "your mum is mental ".
I was raging but didn't want a further row do let it go.
I'm looking at my future and thinking what's in store?
Teens won't want to come away with us in a few years and I adore my holidays. I cannot bear to think of me and DH with him snapping at me and speaking to me like I'm a child or modifying my behaviour.

I know he loves me and i I love him. We lots of happy times.
Things have changed though and DC are growing up. We had such happy times when they were little. Not sure what I'm asking here. Maybe if anyone been through similar?
And if anyone had advice about taking teens on holiday please help!!!!,as I'm also starting to feel I'm forcing them to do stuff or go places I Like. They are school age. I give them options and we go to various places, UK and abroad.

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Ivenamechangedsomanytimes · 29/08/2024 18:05

Yes maybe they are and maybe DH is right. It's odd though, he's happy to stay with me when he has the freedom to take action.
I cant be that bad eh?
Anyway, I will definitely start to make some changes. Thanks to those who have given me some constructive advice.

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sunsetsandboardwalks · 29/08/2024 18:05

Ivenamechangedsomanytimes · 29/08/2024 18:02

It's quite hard to say everything about a 30year relationship in text form, without an actual essay.
Much easier to say it. But yes, I suppose I do ramble , which is why DH finds me infuriating 😡

I think what people find tolerable in the beginning of a relationship can change as things progress and people get older.

I'm sure there are things about him that you liked a lot more at the beginning than you do now?

Ivenamechangedsomanytimes · 29/08/2024 18:02

sunsetsandboardwalks · 29/08/2024 17:59

Your responses are very rambly and repetitive - being honest, are you like that in real life too?

It's quite hard to say everything about a 30year relationship in text form, without an actual essay.
Much easier to say it. But yes, I suppose I do ramble , which is why DH finds me infuriating 😡

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sunsetsandboardwalks · 29/08/2024 18:01

Ivenamechangedsomanytimes · 29/08/2024 17:50

Bizarre response
Didn't realise that I had a word limit🤔

You say yourself you talk a lot - PP is just saying your responses here are no different!

sunsetsandboardwalks · 29/08/2024 17:59

Your responses are very rambly and repetitive - being honest, are you like that in real life too?

OhmygodDont · 29/08/2024 17:59

Not that bizarre when you’re an over talker for someone to point out even your typing is over typed.

ChickenDeChick · 29/08/2024 17:55

You do come across as quite defensive but you could try some self reflection and ask yourself who you are doing all of this for, and why.

I don't think op is coming across as defensive at all considering some of the really critical posts on here! She's just trying to explain herself.

Honestly op I think it's more of a DH problem than a you problem. As the dc get older it can definitely highlight the differences in your marriage and your dh sounds pretty intolerant (but happy enough to have you organise everything when it suits though).

I agree taking some time to focus on yourself and doing things for you sounds like the way to go and maybe just doing less to try and make everyone else happy?

Ivenamechangedsomanytimes · 29/08/2024 17:50

GinBlossom94 · 29/08/2024 17:25

Every reply you make has double the amount of words necessary. Reading them is like constant chatter, kindly you would do my head in too

Bizarre response
Didn't realise that I had a word limit🤔

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GinBlossom94 · 29/08/2024 17:25

Every reply you make has double the amount of words necessary. Reading them is like constant chatter, kindly you would do my head in too

Coughsweet · 29/08/2024 17:10

I agree. Your DH sounds a bit like mine and tbh I don’t ask him to do many things with me. I know he’d generally say yes and go along with it but if I’ve got a friend who would really enjoy something and would likely suggest doing it if I didn’t then I’d rather do it with them.

It took a bit of adjusting getting used to teenagers but I had three years between mine so when the first started the detachment stuff I still had a younger child and by the time it kicked in with the DC2, DC1 was comfortable enough in their own skin not be sneering at everything. It’s a funny time though because it feel like at some point in the not to distant future it’ll be just the two of us again but the mirror will show us to be 20 years older. I think it’s a good time to think some more about who I am and what I want out of my own life.

Binman · 29/08/2024 16:55

Oh and my DH has ADHD and couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery. He may jump from one subject to another but we wouldn't have had a holiday in 30 years if I had waited for him to organise it.

You don't need to wonder if you have a diagnosis or whether you have a problem. You are you and what you need is a family who will listen and compromise, but it works both ways.

You don't have to be everything, no one does.

Binman · 29/08/2024 16:47

Have you thought about what would happen if you didn't plan and arrange and no one else did? Would it be bad and who would it be bad for?

So if you wanted to watch TV and drink wine and they asked to play a game you can say no and they can play without you. If you don't arrange a little holiday and you stay at home they can entertain themselves.

You have done this for years, arranged, planned, kept the kids busy, more than others, you say. is this not exhausting? And if you visit the same beach every BH then it is a routine so why take offence? Have you asked what others want?

Often when the children are older we realise we have nothing in common with our OH anymore because, as you say, we haven't nurtured our relationship, but spent most of our energy on the DC's. How are you going to retire with a pipe and slippers man when you are an on the go person. When did you realise the difference between you both?

In the beginning he may have thought you were quirky and interesting and now he is less tolerant of those traits. You may have found him solid and reliable and now you may be less tolerant of those traits. Quirky becomes irritating and reliable becomes boring IYSWIM?

Whereas before you had a lot of energy to be all you wanted to be, maybe you feel more tired now and more resentful. Sniping in a relationship is not good and you will both pick up on it more quickly.

You do come across as quite defensive but you could try some self reflection and ask yourself who you are doing all of this for, and why.

Ivenamechangedsomanytimes · 29/08/2024 16:42

I always say yes to a game as I think there will be a time when they won't want to do it!! So I'm kinda like available .
If they say I just want to chill on my phone, I'm okay with that too.

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Ivenamechangedsomanytimes · 29/08/2024 16:41

Coughsweet · 29/08/2024 16:39

@Ivenamechangedsomanytimes I honestly think you are less of the problem here than you initially set out. When you get a frosty reaction that can make you really unsure of yourself, especially if the situation has changed, it feels like the rug has been pulled. I think you have a couple of stroppy teenagers and a grumpy middle aged man judging you and you’re taking the responsibility for it. Let them get on with it and say no next time to the game.

Yes possibly. I'm overthinking as usual.

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Coughsweet · 29/08/2024 16:39

@Ivenamechangedsomanytimes I honestly think you are less of the problem here than you initially set out. When you get a frosty reaction that can make you really unsure of yourself, especially if the situation has changed, it feels like the rug has been pulled. I think you have a couple of stroppy teenagers and a grumpy middle aged man judging you and you’re taking the responsibility for it. Let them get on with it and say no next time to the game.

Ivenamechangedsomanytimes · 29/08/2024 16:35

I don't know if I have ADHD. I don't think that I do!
I don't sing made up songs all day long. I do regular stuff too😁
I know my best friend makes up names and silly stuff for her dogs too.
I get the silly dog names may be a bit too childish for Dc.
But DH is just annoyed at me generally talking to him. I know it's seen as nagging/repeating or talking crap.
I can work on that. I have to.
Think I will still sing to the pets though( when I'm alone🤪)

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TheVeryThing · 29/08/2024 16:19

I know I'm going to get slated for this but you remind me a bit of my DH, who has ADHD (and is autistic, but it's the ADHD bit that is ringing bells).
He voices all his thoughts too and can be very indecisive. He also makes up names, songs, rhymes about all sorts of things. Not in a performative or 'I'm mad, me' sort of way but that is just how his brain works, he has no control over it.
It can be exhausting but he now has pretty good insight into it and we can joke about it together and I can tell him to stop when it's too much. I also see how much stress it causes him at times.
Our kids are teens and sometimes find it annoying but just roll their eyes and he does his best to rein it in. It helps that he is actually very witty and funny also.
I am absolutely not diagnosing you with anything but I couldn't not post when I saw so many similarities.
There is no excuse for your husband showing contempt towards you, especially in front of your children.
An honest and respectful conversation is needed, I think.

Ivenamechangedsomanytimes · 29/08/2024 16:13

I was furious and upset about your mum is mental.
And I know some posters have said I was overreacting about the board game argument, saying its normal for families.
Totally get that. But they asked me to play a game. I was ready to settle and watch TV with a wine as I was knackered and it was late.
There I am, setting up the game, and I'm waiting like a lemon, while everyone is on their phones and pissing about! Which is why I said leave the game then. Cue everyone saying "what?!!!!"
And DH saying I was nuts for presumably 'overreacting '.
Best is, DH has like zero patience!

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Cherrysoup · 29/08/2024 16:05

I really dislike the ‘Your mum is mental’ comment. Is he trying to get the dc to take sides? I’d be pretty upset about that. You haven’t changed, yes, he’s becoming less tolerant.

Ivenamechangedsomanytimes · 29/08/2024 15:59

@Coughsweet
I think he.has always been like.this to a degree. He's always been a bit of a pipe and slippers man. However, he hasn't always had quite a short fuse or so easily irritated. And if he was ever snappy with me,he would apologise. Now he doesn't seem to care or notice.

He's also very black.and white and is great with a practical problem. Not good with any emotional stuff, so i would go to friends.
We haven't nutured our relationship over the years, despite me telling him one day it would just the 2 of us. We don't go out as a couple(his choice, not mine). As for getting him away from the house to talk. Absolute zero chance. We don't do anything outside the house without Dc.
I go out with friends. He.doesnt really.go out. His choice again.

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Ivenamechangedsomanytimes · 29/08/2024 15:50

I like lots of other stuff, the theatre, reading, socialising. Long walks. Beauty and stuff like that. Love cooking.
I'm not some weirdo wrapped up in my dc lives and chatting like a bored old pensioner.
I have over invested in them, I will admit that though.

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Ivenamechangedsomanytimes · 29/08/2024 15:47

@Shitlord
Of course I talk about other stuff. It's not one big countdown to Christmas. I'm not like Mary Poppins or something 😁
Just normal stuff, school stuff , whats on telly. Don't talk that much on normal days as they are glued to xbox.
Holidays we like history and sight seeing.
I will engage on any subject. Depends where we are and what we are doing.

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Coughsweet · 29/08/2024 13:34

I think having a stressful job can have a big impact in terms of just wanting to ease off and relinquish the burden outside of work. It sounds like you have to spend quite a lot of time being the “adult” when you are outside the home.

Shitlord · 29/08/2024 13:28

OP you sound like you have some wonderful qualities but you also dominate the conversation with a lot of internal monologue, anxious chatter and quite irritating habits.

Do you engage the kids in substantive conversation, modelling intelligent discussion about world events for instance, news or opinion, or is all this stuff about family ritual, counting down to Christmas and very inner concerns both a conversational fire blanket for everyone else and a comfort blanket for you?

I feel like your husband has a big part to play in not developing too, if he's going around burping and farting in front of you and not allowing you any opportunity to air your work concerns.

However, is all your conversation very 'me' centred or is any of it actually interesting to an outsider and a developing teenager?

Do you listen or mostly talk? Honestly?

Could you offer the children wise advice or just comforting rituals?

Maybe you need to update your role both personally and in the family. Seems like youre recognising you are not quite keeping up with changes but are trying to address this by mithering and criticising rather than adapting your communication style.

I think DH has work to do too as I say. Maybe a set amount of time to listen about each others work? But that's only really viable if you're not rattling on about any and everything the rest of the time.

I recognise my parents in you. What other interests and outlets do you have?

My mother has never grown up and now can't understand why she isn't very involved in our lives. She just blethers nonsense for hours and it's so draining when facing adult issues.

Coughsweet · 29/08/2024 13:27

I think you are judging yourself far too harshly OP. Are you sure your DH wasn’t always like this but when the DCs were younger and fun you could bat it away but now they are judgemental teenagers its coming in from all sides and you feel like the odd one out? If you feel judged all the time then you’re going to be more aware of it and more nervous in turn.

There are some things I discuss with DH as he’s can be black and white about things and that can be useful. With other things it isn’t and I know I won’t find his suggestions helpful as I don’t think he’ll quite “get” what my issue is. Usually I have friends who have a better idea of what I am
on about so I just speak to them instead.

It feels like your sense of self is quite tied up in how your family see you and I think it would be positive for you if you could work on separating that.