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Called a c*nt by fellow train passenger - AIBU

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Trainride123 · 28/08/2024 19:00

While getting off a commuter train with my two children, my toddler pressed the "doors closing" button when there was still a man and his bike behind me waiting to get off. The doors beeped but nothing happened (as the door won't close if people are still walking through), and as I walked out of the door I pressed the "doors open" button just to be 100% sure it didn't close. I also told my toddler not to do that again.

The man directly behind me got annoyed at my toddler and made some loud comments along the lines of "what seriously? You must be joking" etc.

When we were all out I turned around and apologised to him but also said that he's only a toddler and nothing actually happened to the door. The man totally ignored me, didn't even look at me. We all walked out of the barriers.

I was so annoyed about his comment and then that he ignored me, that when I came across him again 30 seconds later, I told him he'd been rude. He in turn called me a cnt and rode off on his bike. I shouted after him not to call me cnt and he shouted back "I didn't call you that, I called you a stuck up c*nt". At this point DH had come to the station to pick me up and heard him shout that at me, so DH shouted at him and went over. The man told him that he doesn't know what my problem is as I was behind him on the train and he's already apologised to me, asked my DH which car in the car park was his, then said to let's just leave things, then made fun of a facial condition I have and laughed, and rode off on his bike.

In hindsight I just shouldn't have confronted him should I. I know my toddler was in the wrong, but surely reacting in this way isn't right either.

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HollyKnight · 29/08/2024 18:26

MustWeDoThis · 29/08/2024 18:01

I would be reporting this verbal abuse and threatening behaviour to the police. The train station will have it all on CCTV. It's about time men were held responsible for their behaviour! Don't be afraid to defend yourself.

What threatening behaviour? He didn't go near the OP. He rode away after she "verbally abused" him first. It was her husband who approached the man after that.

MustWeDoThis · 29/08/2024 18:01

Trainride123 · 28/08/2024 19:00

While getting off a commuter train with my two children, my toddler pressed the "doors closing" button when there was still a man and his bike behind me waiting to get off. The doors beeped but nothing happened (as the door won't close if people are still walking through), and as I walked out of the door I pressed the "doors open" button just to be 100% sure it didn't close. I also told my toddler not to do that again.

The man directly behind me got annoyed at my toddler and made some loud comments along the lines of "what seriously? You must be joking" etc.

When we were all out I turned around and apologised to him but also said that he's only a toddler and nothing actually happened to the door. The man totally ignored me, didn't even look at me. We all walked out of the barriers.

I was so annoyed about his comment and then that he ignored me, that when I came across him again 30 seconds later, I told him he'd been rude. He in turn called me a cnt and rode off on his bike. I shouted after him not to call me cnt and he shouted back "I didn't call you that, I called you a stuck up c*nt". At this point DH had come to the station to pick me up and heard him shout that at me, so DH shouted at him and went over. The man told him that he doesn't know what my problem is as I was behind him on the train and he's already apologised to me, asked my DH which car in the car park was his, then said to let's just leave things, then made fun of a facial condition I have and laughed, and rode off on his bike.

In hindsight I just shouldn't have confronted him should I. I know my toddler was in the wrong, but surely reacting in this way isn't right either.

I would be reporting this verbal abuse and threatening behaviour to the police. The train station will have it all on CCTV. It's about time men were held responsible for their behaviour! Don't be afraid to defend yourself.

Prettydress · 29/08/2024 17:53

If I'd been there I would have backed you up OP. Fancy using those words Infront of infants. What an absolute tool. You were a good role model to your children by standing up for yourself in what sounds to be an assertive but non confrontational way. Just be glad you're not a sad man like that.

DisabledDemon · 29/08/2024 17:47

I would have had it out with him on the instant, not left it and then escalated it - but that's me.

Anyway - there was only one cunt and it wasn't you.

MixedCouple2 · 29/08/2024 17:46

Be careful. With all the stabbings and violance on trains and in public recently it isn't worth it. Unfortunately women are extra vulnerable with small children.
I would as others have said ignored it and pretended not to hear it. As now your chips has heard an inmapropriate word being used a ciuple times and seen a potential confrontation.

Imanontoday · 29/08/2024 16:51

Hoplolly · 29/08/2024 16:34

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lol. When you can’t think of an original response..😂

Hoplolly · 29/08/2024 16:34

HelpMeGetThrough · 29/08/2024 16:31

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HelpMeGetThrough · 29/08/2024 16:31

Hoplolly · 29/08/2024 16:25

Cyclist. Says it all. They're normally utter entitled c*nts themselves.

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Hoplolly · 29/08/2024 16:25

Cyclist. Says it all. They're normally utter entitled c*nts themselves.

Iwasafool · 29/08/2024 16:21

ThatFlakyReader · 29/08/2024 15:16

But you’ve no idea what was going on with that man, he could have been completely at the end of his tether with stress or something. (Not excusing his vile language)
It unexpectedly took me 8 hours and 6 packed trains to get somewhere that’s usually a three hour direct journey a couple of weeks ago, by the end of that I was in no fit state to deal with things particularly rationally.

I hope you weren't trying to cope with a bike while that was going on.

Emeraldiisland · 29/08/2024 15:42

Any apology that has the word but after it isn't a proper apology
And people don't always acknowledge that you've apologised. I'm amazed you've got this far in life without having someone ignore an apology you've made.

ThatFlakyReader · 29/08/2024 15:16

Iwasafool · 29/08/2024 14:40

Makes you wonder how they cope with a really stressful situation like breaking a nail or something.

But you’ve no idea what was going on with that man, he could have been completely at the end of his tether with stress or something. (Not excusing his vile language)
It unexpectedly took me 8 hours and 6 packed trains to get somewhere that’s usually a three hour direct journey a couple of weeks ago, by the end of that I was in no fit state to deal with things particularly rationally.

Lizzie67384 · 29/08/2024 14:48

Iwasafool · 29/08/2024 14:40

Makes you wonder how they cope with a really stressful situation like breaking a nail or something.

God forbid a child talks in public!

Iwasafool · 29/08/2024 14:40

Lizzie67384 · 29/08/2024 13:52

Haha are you serious? ‘Not controlling your child’ - a toddler pressed a door button on a train, oh no!!!!!!

Makes you wonder how they cope with a really stressful situation like breaking a nail or something.

Iwasafool · 29/08/2024 14:40

Hillarious · 29/08/2024 13:38

It's implied in the OP.

Where?

Iwasafool · 29/08/2024 14:39

CrazyGoatLady · 29/08/2024 13:13

What the OP expected was the equivalent of expecting niceness which is both unrealistic and unreasonable.

Nobody got caught in the door on that occasion, which I've acknowledged. I'm saying that the reason people might be annoyed by this is because they will automatically think of what could happen. If it's you that's in front of the doors when the button is pressed and they beep, you're going to think the door is about to close and you won't be able to get off the train. It isn't rocket science to understand why it would piss someone off and they don't owe you nice in response.

Nothing to do with being nice, just don't be nasty.

MzPixie · 29/08/2024 14:26

I wouldn't have even confronted him you never know what people are capable of and it just got worse because you did
The bloke in question was out of order completely

Lizzie67384 · 29/08/2024 13:52

Haha are you serious? ‘Not controlling your child’ - a toddler pressed a door button on a train, oh no!!!!!!

Hillarious · 29/08/2024 13:38

Iwasafool · 29/08/2024 11:36

Where has the OP said he should have found her children cute and adorable.

Another one making things up.

It's implied in the OP.

CrazyGoatLady · 29/08/2024 13:13

Iwasafool · 29/08/2024 09:38

Nothing about being nice though. Changing your arguments as you go.

What the OP expected was the equivalent of expecting niceness which is both unrealistic and unreasonable.

Nobody got caught in the door on that occasion, which I've acknowledged. I'm saying that the reason people might be annoyed by this is because they will automatically think of what could happen. If it's you that's in front of the doors when the button is pressed and they beep, you're going to think the door is about to close and you won't be able to get off the train. It isn't rocket science to understand why it would piss someone off and they don't owe you nice in response.

HelpMeGetThrough · 29/08/2024 12:51

But if no one ever calls people out on rude behaviour, then what? Do we just accept it?

Better that than potentially getting a smack in the mouth, or worse a knife in your guts.

None of us know who the fucking nutters are, but there are plenty around.

Sethera · 29/08/2024 12:43

The tragic death of Lee Pomeroy in 2019 should be a warning to all about violence on trains - the safest thing to do is walk away.

Lee Pomeroy was murdered by Darren Pencille in an altercation on a train, over the very minor matter of Pencille accusing Lee Pomeroy of blocking his way in the aisle. Less than five minutes later, Lee Pomeroy died in his teenaged son's arms, after his carotid artery was stabbed by Pencille.

Pencille was the aggressor, but if you view the CCTV footage (in link) you can see at one point Pencille (hooded) walks away, and Lee Pomeroy follows him into another carriage, continuing the ongoing argument. It was after this that Pencille stabbed Lee Pomeroy, and later tried (unsuccessfully) to claim self-defence as the victim had followed him.

Lee Pomeroy was physically a much bigger man than Pencille, tall and heavy, so possibly this made him feel immune to danger from him, but Pencille suffered from schizophrenia, had a history of violence and was carrying a knife. It's possible that if Lee Pomeroy had let Pencille walk away, he would still be alive today.

Never try to 'win the argument' when someone is aggressive on public transport.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-surrey-48771896

Iwasafool · 29/08/2024 12:24

Trainride123 · 29/08/2024 12:12

@Iwasafool I didn't.

According to PP I also live in London (I don't, where did I say that) and DH loves a fight (because he shouted "hey" at someone? Right...) and Londoners are a crazy lot (extreme generalisation?)

The embellishments on this thread have been... interesting.

Like an episode of Jackanory.

Just to give a positive story I was recently on a 2hr 30 min train ride with a 1 year old. He was fine for an hour and gradually got more and more disgruntedl. I was sitting in an aisle seat and the elderly man sitting next to me was being very nice. There was a woman sitting on the opposite side of the aisle and when the person next to her got off she offered to swap seats with me so I had more space. I thought that was so considerate. Well the wails got louder and eventually I decided to go into the vestibute by the exit/toilets and get him in his buggy and hopefully asleep. The same woman came and unfolded his buggy for me. I stood and rocked him and he did drop off.

Some men, probably late 40s early 50s, came out of the carriage to get off the train and they commented I'd done well to get him to sleep. I said I had to do something as I was worried I'd get lynched. They laughed and said to take no notice we've all been kids and one finished by saying I'd played a blinder. I was getting off as well and they lifted buggy plus baby off the train for me.

There are nice people out there.

Mercurial123 · 29/08/2024 12:21

Lacdulancelot · 28/08/2024 19:07

I’m sure there are nice cyclists who are not pricks, I’ve just never met one.

In future op just ignore.

You don't know many cyclists.

He was in the wrong, but he was never going to be pleasant.

Trainride123 · 29/08/2024 12:12

@Iwasafool I didn't.

According to PP I also live in London (I don't, where did I say that) and DH loves a fight (because he shouted "hey" at someone? Right...) and Londoners are a crazy lot (extreme generalisation?)

The embellishments on this thread have been... interesting.

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