To be shocked this isn't getting more coverage?

Of course there are many lovely Moslems who follow their faith closely. But for those who are comparing fundamental Christianity with fundamental Islam, may I point out that no Christian who decides to change their religion or become an atheist has been killed because of it. You can completely turn your back on your church, badmouth Christians and Jesus freely, tell everyone that you are gay but you'll still be able to live your life without fear for your physical safety. That's the huge difference between living in a democracy built on Christianity and what Hamas wants for the world. They are coming for Israel today, but don't be fooled - they won't want to stop there.

What would you like us to do? Send the forces in again and lose thousands of our own men and women? There is literally nothing we can do! We tried and we failed.

Nope, I don't watch GB news thanks.

You can dismiss people's concerns as much as you like, stay in that cool bubble of yours whilst women's rights are wheeled back throughout the world. You think it can't happen here? You think some men here won't be having wet dreams over what the Taliban are currently doing?

Yes, label me a thick racist if it makes you feel better, but I'm nearly 60 and I've predicted political and social shitshows many times before before and guess where we now find ourselves? Stay cool though 😎 😘

I don’t think it’s helpful to cry ‘racism’ or even more irritating ‘you must watch GB news’. As someone said maybe we need to amend NAMALT to have M for Muslim but the reality is that majority Muslim countries have extremely poor records for women’s rights. That is a fact. Its not the case in majority Christian countries or majority any other religion countries. It may be extreme interpretations of the religion but its interpretations of Islam regardless. It’s not useful to pretend if the U.K. became a majority Muslim country that there would be no implications. Why think that the U.K. would then be different to any other Muslim majority country? Women in particular should be able to call out abuses in Islam toward women and inequalities in the religion. Silencing people by shouting ‘racism’ is not on.

Look at where women’s rights have gone in the western world when everyone silenced or tried to or succeeded in ‘cancelling’ the ‘bigots’ ‘nazis’ and ‘TERFs’ who spoke out.

we seem to be living in a childish world where anyone who doesn’t hold the ‘correct’ view is shouted down.

Who do you think creates the vacuum these regimes rise from? Who helps reinforce these political regimes, arms them, funds them before they inevitably become the out of control behemoth no power can wrestle? It’s naive to think the West doesn’t exploit, manipulate, and even install these regimes for their own benefit. It always backfires. Civilians and soldiers die. Stocks and shares rise from the dead. Anyone remember Halliburton? Their stocks doubled as troop deaths (Iraq in this case) doubled. It’s in the West’s interest to help maintain perpetual war. And not just the West. Our global economy depends on perpetual war. “It creates jobs!” 🙄🎉

It's horrific it should be front page news.

Christians are not just white people. I've got so many Indian friends who are Christians and they are really religious, worse than their western counterparts.

This has a tendency to sidestep the extreme belief system imo of the regime, if not others

It's even more dangerous for women and girls

It's terrifying and heartbreaking.

I completely agree. Israel has to win.

I think terrorists like the taliban are a threat to all women and all Jews, too. They need to be stopped or punished. Why can't sanctions be applied - why are they allowed to play cricket?

People use religion as a shield to commit their atrocities.

Yep. In a nutshell.

There isn't anything, no one wants to go back in. And I understand why not.

We can try to limit the spread of similar outside the country for the safety of women and girls elsewhere

I imagine that misogynists are the same as racists, islamophobes, anti semites and homophobes in that they do not admit to being that...they try to justify their vile views and make them appear as if they are perfectly valid and reasonable. The problem is other people just don't understand.

I also wonder who exactly PP means by “traditional Jewish households”?
I know several Jewish families who celebrate all the traditional holidays and follow a kosher diet, but none of the women wears a wig. I assume PP is referring to orthodox Jews?
Also, what exactly is the relevance of talking about individual households on a thread about a society that imposes ridiculously strict rules on all women?

Do people ever put blame on the oppressive brutal regimes carrying out these horrific actions, or is it always the west?

You sound like someone who watches GB 'News'.

I would love a misogynist to tell me exactly why they hate women so much.

NAMALT (let's insert Muslim instead of Men)

Yeah, yeah. Whilst they are living in the UK, it's very hard to be extremist, because of our laws. Laws which no doubt, could be changed, if we become a Muslim country.

How many Taliban men have taken to the streets, to protest against this, and to stand up for women? Where is the uproar? Where is the outrage from men? Oh, wait, hang on, is that a tumbleweed I see?

When it is an accepted practice to treat women this way, in the main, the men go along with it.

Which Muslim man tried to save Lara Logan? Oh, yeah, that's right, out of HUNDREDS of Muslim men, not one tried to save her. They did all rape her, and stick their fingers inside her though. Then they tried to rip her arms and legs off, and tear her scalp off. Hundreds and hundreds of Muslim men. Not one tried to save her. NOT ONE.

It's not racism, it's concern about what laws will be brought in once they make up a majority in government.

Sharia law anyone? Of course most men of whatever religion/culture/background will welcome the legal oppression of women via Sharia law, so such a government will undoubtedly have lots of support, whilst women lose their vote and have no say whatsoever.

It's the people who shout "racism" at every turn that prevent essential discourse on which direction our country is heading.

@Sugarcoldturkey

Sadly [at least as far as I can see] there is absolutely nothing that the civilised world can do about it. The country will go back to the dark ages as far as women are concerned.

What is the solution? Basically to abandon the country I'd guess.

This is beyond fucked up and frightening.

There's not much news coverage because of the role of western countries in causing the problem in the first place. The usual depressing story.

Um yes she did actually! Funny you seem to think you know what she did not say to me!!! She said that in some Jewish communities, as the men and women can't sleep together in the same bed when the women is having her period then they sleep on the floor! You surely can't know every single Jewish person so you can't also comment on her experience.

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