To be shocked this isn't getting more coverage?

This is going to sound harsh, but if their own damn husbands won't fight for them I fail to see why completely unrelated young ( mostly) men should have to sacrifice their lives .
Let's be honest Afghans have been killing each other for centuries.
The only thing I can think of is flights out of the country , women and children only, but the Taliban would probably shoot them down. I know , totally pie in the sky stuff. Those poor women.

Spanish Inquisition?
The Crucible?
Magdalen laundries?
I could go on

It’s only women isn’t it, not like in other countries where actual people are being oppressed.

I can’t forgive the Biden administration for leaving the region and effectively arming the Taliban to the teeth. Shameful. Makes my heart hurt when I think of it.

Any country that allows religion to be involved in its government or the governing of its social policy will not be good for women.

All religions have been distorted to control abuse, rape and murder women. Currently Incels are promoting it in a non-religious ideology.

While all religions have been distorted to some degree to control the masses, why has the distortion of Islam lead to human rights abuses and extreme oppression of women in every country where it is the majority religion? I can’t think of a similar theocracy under any other religion?

While all religions have been distorted to some degree to control the masses, why has the distortion of Islam lead to human rights abuses and extreme oppression of women in every country where it is the majority religion? I can’t think of a similar theocracy under any other religion?

Spanish Inquisition?
The Crucible?
Magdalen laundries?
I could go on

thank you for this voice of sanity
this thread began with OP's concern for the women and girls of Afghanistan and asking what we can do to help them.
many of the more recent posts seem to come from people who have never spoken to the many educated and articulate women in this country and elsewhere who are Muslims AND advocates for women's rights. As a former colleague of mine said, 'it's never about the religion, its about the culture and the men who will distort any religion to get power'
On another thread, a poster said that Islam mandates education for men And women, both.
It's not Islam we need to fear, its men.

thank you for this voice of sanity
this thread began with OP's concern for the women and girls of Afghanistan and asking what we can do to help them.
many of the more recent posts seem to come from people who have never spoken to the many educated and articulate women in this country and elsewhere who are Muslims AND advocates for women's rights. As a former colleague of mine said, 'it's never about the religion, its about the culture and the men who will distort any religion to get power'
On another thread, a poster said that Islam mandates education for men And women, both.
It's not Islam we need to fear, its men.

Ok, but is it racist to be concerned that the Taliban ideology (that they claim is the one true interpretation of Islam) and others like it might spread?

It didn't spread in the 80s and 90s. I am no more concerned about it impacting me now than I was then. Taliban horror is being inflicted on Afgan women, not us. We can't fix it, I don't think anyone can. But there are things we can do.

Amplify their voices when we get to hear them.

Don't use their suffering to promote racism or Islamophobia. Most Afgan women are Muslim, whether you like it or not. All of them are foreign.

Do what you can to help the Afgan women who made it to the UK. They will help their sisters and mothers back home.

Stop amplifying racist, Islamophobic shite and lies. Brave women have escaped the Taliban, Isis, Iran they deserve so much more than to fear for their lives, their children's lives and thrir livelihoods in the UK as many have done recently.

If you are concerned about women and want to act locally, we have a huge problem with femicide, rape culture and DV. Right here in the UK individual women are suffering the same restrictions under threat of death from their partner. You can help these women and it will benefit everyone.

Er I don't "support" Christianity, I am a Christian so of course I care more about Christians being persecuted than other religions (although am concerned about Jews being persecuted which is also happening, not so much in the ME as they have been wiped out apart from Israel). I'm not sure who you think Christians have abused or who they're persecuting your whole post is abit muddled.

@angeldelite how boring. Another poster implying anyone who steps out of line on the ‘allowed’ comments must EDL/ a racist etc. I’m actually Irish so from a population who were oppressed by the British and I’m a young woman with a daughter hence finding the idea of a Muslim majority horrifying - I would hate my daughter to be oppressed like so many women in Muslim majority countries. It’s an awful life for women and it’s a valid concern.

Christianity is currently the largest and most influential religion in the world, with a history of extreme and ongoing persecution, oppression, and abuse towards women.

Can I ask why you’re not concerned about the influence of Christianity but are about the influence of Islam? Is it because you support Christianity so are OK with the abuses carried out in it's name?

In any case, it’s not naive in the slightest; it’s just sensible not to be worried about something that isn't going to happen in the UK.

Islam isn't predicted to become the largest religion globally until towards the end of the century, and even then, it won’t be a majority. In the UK, it’s very unlikely to ever become the majority religion—certainly not within anyone on this forum’s lifetime.

As I said, society and cultures aren't static, a hundred or so years ago many people where disgusted by the idea of women having the vote or people being openly gay but it happened anyway. If Islam does go on to become a world conquering religion in 100 years time then there's not a great deal you'll be able to do to stop it.

Unless you're advocating for the persecution of Muslims in western countries to prevent it spreading further, of course?

@angeldelite how boring. Another poster implying anyone who steps out of line on the ‘allowed’ comments must EDL/ a racist etc. I’m actually Irish so from a population who were oppressed by the British and I’m a young woman with a daughter hence finding the idea of a Muslim majority horrifying - I would hate my daughter to be oppressed like so many women in Muslim majority countries. It’s an awful life for women and it’s a valid concern.

Still nowhere close to the numbers needed to make Britain’s adult voting age population 50% Muslim in 25 years. Not even close.

Your numbers are miles off.

Christianity is currently the largest and most influential religion in the world, with a history of extreme and ongoing persecution, oppression, and abuse towards women.

Can I ask why you’re not concerned about the influence of Christianity but are about the influence of Islam? Is it because you support Christianity so are OK with the abuses carried out in it's name?

In any case, it’s not naive in the slightest; it’s just sensible not to be worried about something that isn't going to happen in the UK.

Islam isn't predicted to become the largest religion globally until towards the end of the century, and even then, it won’t be a majority. In the UK, it’s very unlikely to ever become the majority religion—certainly not within anyone on this forum’s lifetime.

As I said, society and cultures aren't static, a hundred or so years ago many people where disgusted by the idea of women having the vote or people being openly gay but it happened anyway. If Islam does go on to become a world conquering religion in 100 years time then there's not a great deal you'll be able to do to stop it.

Unless you're advocating for the persecution of Muslims in western countries to prevent it spreading further, of course?