To be shocked this isn't getting more coverage?

My top five that I'd choose for what?

I'd absolutely not want to be a woman in the US is Trump gets re-elected. I have family already making plans to relocate back to Europe if that happens.

My top five that I'd choose for what?

I'd absolutely not want to be a woman in the US is Trump gets re-elected. I have family already making plans to relocate back to Europe if that happens.

I'm pretty sure that what is being done in Afghanistan now wasn't included in words of Allah that the Angel told Muhammed to write down.

Men aren't just following a prevailing discourse. They wrote it.

What would you choose? For you or your dds if you have them?

Out of all countries that is not these five

Can you say your top five?

@greycarpet it's no where near. A woman there can't even write the post you just did.

I don't mind the view that we need to protect the rights we have but equating the situation in each of these posts is so far off the reality.

And yet our society still asks what a woman was wearing when she was raped, where she was, whether she'd been drinking, what she was doing, whether she'd been flirting with him.

The advice to women is don't walk alone after dark, park under a street light, don't sleep with your window open, carry your keys to avoid being raped.

Of course, we know the realities of rape but my post isn't about that.

Tbose 'myths' still exist and our society still blames women for 'tempting' men.

It just doesn't impose such heavy restrictions.

This is absolutely nowhere near the reality of what is happening in Afghanistan and you know it. Absolutely nowhere near. Extremely disingenuous.

You're being totally disingenuous here. And you know that.

A huge part of it is that the culture of the country, heavily influenced by prevailing religious discourse (or lack of one) empowers men to do this, or not.

You know this as well as anyone - and you aren't doing women any favours by trying to ignore it.

And yet our society still asks what a woman was wearing when she was raped, where she was, whether she'd been drinking, what she was doing, whether she'd been flirting with him.

The advice to women is don't walk alone after dark, park under a street light, don't sleep with your window open, carry your keys to avoid being raped.

Of course, we know the realities of rape but my post isn't about that.

Tbose 'myths' still exist and our society still blames women for 'tempting' men.

It just doesn't impose such heavy restrictions.

According to global measures, the worst five are:

• Afghanistan
• Syria
• South Sudan
• DRC
• Chad

Of course it could but it’s very unlikely, because the majority of men have not been raised under extreme ideology which teaches that women are temptation and there need almost complete suppression to prevent men from being ‘led astray’.

It's not just Afghanistan though, is it?

If you were to make a list of the worst 5 countries in the world to be a woman in right now - looking at women's rights compared to men in these countries and compared to global norms - what night he a common factor?

Because they haven't decided to do that. Because there are enough of them that would currently see it as abhorrent.

But none of these things happen overnight.

And I'm not suggesting it would happen here.

But, in theory, it could.

Because they haven't decided to do that. Because there are enough of them that would currently see it as abhorrent.

But none of these things happen overnight.

And I'm not suggesting it would happen here.

But, in theory, it could.

The fact is if men in the UK collectively wanted to keep women under lock and key, they could do it tomorrow. There would be absolutely nothing to stop them, we would be defenceless. So why don’t they?

More than it should because the answer should be none. It shouldn't be happening to any women anywhere.

I'm not saying thebUK is as bad as Afghanistan on women's rights. Of course I'm not.

But I do think women need to recognise that we only have the rights and freedoms we have because men allow it and we have seen what happens in other countries, and our own to a much lesser degree, when men change their minds.

How many women does that apply to here versus there, do you think?

Probably because it's emerged in a country that's been an international punching bag since the beginnings of the Great Game, and that has never been allowed to freely decide it's own identity. The Taliban themselves are a recent movement, and the creation of an external influence.

The other Abrahamic religions, Christianity and Judaism, both have their own fundamental extremists movements that aren't shy of using violence or oppression.

The UK has its issues but the number of men who believe women should not be allowed to speak outside their homes is probably absolutely tiny, even fairly misogynistic men would think you were bonkers for suggesting it.

And, yet, there are women in the UK who are isolated from their friends and families, not allowed to work, not allowed access to SM, not allowed to leave the house or to have a mobile phone by a single man in their life.

I knew a woman a few years ago - our childen did the same hobby. They were fairly wealthy, they had a beautiful home and yet, she wasn't allowed to have a phone. She had no contact with the outside world unless he permitted it.

I wouldn't be so sure that they would all think it bonkers at all.

That's not really the point I was making...

The political reasons that left the Taliban in charge is a conversation but its not the reason why women can't speak outside of the home or look at a man who isn't a direct relative.

That's happened because men wanted it.

We sleepwalk into giving away our rights at our own peril.

If you see the similarities where would you rather live?

Or your dds, sisters, female friends

(apply to whichever you have)

But why does this particular interpretation of Islam result in such uniform devastation and oppression, compared with literal interpretation of other religions which tends to either be fairly peaceful or a small minority? That’s what I’m asking, and I’m open to answers.

The UK has its issues but the number of men who believe women should not be allowed to speak outside their homes is probably absolutely tiny, even fairly misogynistic men would think you were bonkers for suggesting it.

And, yet, there are women in the UK who are isolated from their friends and families, not allowed to work, not allowed access to SM, not allowed to leave the house or to have a mobile phone by a single man in their life.

I knew a woman a few years ago - our childen did the same hobby. They were fairly wealthy, they had a beautiful home and yet, she wasn't allowed to have a phone. She had no contact with the outside world unless he permitted it.

I wouldn't be so sure that they would all think it bonkers at all.