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Was I being unkind? Women filming themselves in their pants

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LivingInStrangeTimes · 27/08/2024 20:16

I was scrolling through tiktok and came across a video of a woman showing a jumpsuit outfit which she is reccomending people buy.

The strange part to me is that the video begins with her standing there in tiny knickers and a bra then she gets dressed into the jumpsuit.

I perhaps shouldn't have said anything at all but left the following comment

"You look lovely. I'm not being unkind but why has it become so normalised to upload videos of ourselves in our underwear? You don't have to expose yourself like that to show the garment x"

Cue a pile on and her getting pissed off because apparently I'm only saying it because of her body type - which had absolutely nothing to do with it for me. We actually look quite similar in the buff!

I'm seeing more and more of these videos and it has become the new normal and done thing on social media for people who want to show clothes, to stand their in their pants beforehand and have you watch them get dressed.

Was I being unreasonable to say what I said and am I unreasonable for thinking its fucking weird and unnecessary?

"I want to show you this dress, but first here's my knickers!"

Edited to add - I mention women specifically because I'm not seeing any of these videos from men.. and nor do I want to 😐

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Idontjetwashthefucker · 28/08/2024 09:51

I use a calorie counting app and a guy posted the other day saying he wanted to post a picture in his boxers but he didn't know whether to as his bulge was very prominent. Quite a number of people suggested that he might like to post in a t shirt covering his bulge instead but apparently he couldn't show us his loss if he wasn't shirtless, and kept banging on about his bulge offending people! It was also suggested he might like to keep the photos for his view only if he was worried about offending but lo and behold, he posted his pics, complete with exaggerated bulge, obviously taken to show it off. Just no need

LivingInStrangeTimes · 28/08/2024 09:47

samanthablues · 28/08/2024 09:23

Besides your usual filth and illegal stuff the dark web is of great use for good purposes, not all is bad.

Such as what? Genuine question. I've only ever heard it mentioned in context of illegal activity. CSA images, drugs and firearms etc.

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LivingInStrangeTimes · 28/08/2024 09:45

samanthablues · 28/08/2024 09:25

@LivingInStrangeTimes "You look lovely. I'm not being unkind but why has it become so normalised to upload videos of ourselves in our underwear? You don't have to expose yourself like that to show the garment x"

It has a very “shamey” tone.

A shamey tone 🤣

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samanthablues · 28/08/2024 09:25

@LivingInStrangeTimes "You look lovely. I'm not being unkind but why has it become so normalised to upload videos of ourselves in our underwear? You don't have to expose yourself like that to show the garment x"

It has a very “shamey” tone.

samanthablues · 28/08/2024 09:23

LivingInStrangeTimes · 28/08/2024 08:57

Obviously I'm not talking about the woman trying on the jumpsuit there. That post is part of a series of replies that went off topic and into how the Internet isn't suitable for children in general.

A PP mentioned suicide videos being shared on TikTok.

I have no intention of going onto the dark web and anybody who does should have their hard drive checked. I don't have to see it to know about the kind of things that are on it.

Edited

Besides your usual filth and illegal stuff the dark web is of great use for good purposes, not all is bad.

LivingInStrangeTimes · 28/08/2024 09:18

samanthablues · 28/08/2024 09:16

Men don’t tend to shame each other for seeing a man in his boxers on the internet trying some trousers, they may laugh but shame him? Nah.

Can you explain how I have "shamed" her?

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samanthablues · 28/08/2024 09:16

LivingInStrangeTimes · 28/08/2024 08:55

"No man"

How do you know what any particular man would say / think. There are billions of them in the world and forums that house many of them. Have you sifted through them all to make sure?

Men aren't doing this. Thankfully. I don't want to see that any more than I do this.

If men were doing it, though, I'd be saying exactly the same thing.

Men don’t tend to shame each other for seeing a man in his boxers on the internet trying some trousers, they may laugh but shame him? Nah.

LivingInStrangeTimes · 28/08/2024 08:57

samanthablues · 28/08/2024 08:53

And a woman trying a jumpsuit and showing her panties is harmful and disturbing? Really? Mental note to yourself: never go into the dark web.

Obviously I'm not talking about the woman trying on the jumpsuit there. That post is part of a series of replies that went off topic and into how the Internet isn't suitable for children in general.

A PP mentioned suicide videos being shared on TikTok.

I have no intention of going onto the dark web and anybody who does should have their hard drive checked. I don't have to see it to know about the kind of things that are on it.

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LivingInStrangeTimes · 28/08/2024 08:55

samanthablues · 28/08/2024 08:38

It’s funny how if the tik toker was a man in his underwear trying some trousers no man would have open a thread complaining about being outraged. As this thread proves sometimes women are our worst enemies.

Edited

"No man"

How do you know what any particular man would say / think. There are billions of them in the world and forums that house many of them. Have you sifted through them all to make sure?

Men aren't doing this. Thankfully. I don't want to see that any more than I do this.

If men were doing it, though, I'd be saying exactly the same thing.

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samanthablues · 28/08/2024 08:53

LivingInStrangeTimes · 28/08/2024 08:47

The Internet is full of harmful and disturbing content. Your position is that if somebody doesn't want to see harmful and disturbing content they shouldn't use the Internet full stop? What a low effort conclusion.

As an adult I'm prepared to risk seeing things I don't want to see in order to watch the content I like to watch. I'm just not prepared for my kids to take that same risk.

Do as I say not as I do.

Edited

And a woman trying a jumpsuit and showing her panties is harmful and disturbing? Really? Mental note to yourself: never go into the dark web.

LivingInStrangeTimes · 28/08/2024 08:47

spaceshooter · 28/08/2024 07:55

OP, it really is a valid question. You're evidently scrolling through 'sick shit' your words, and complaining about the content on here.

If you don't want your children to see it perhaps you ought to consider setting an example by not engaging with the cesspit you seek to shield them from.

After all, you're the adult.

The Internet is full of harmful and disturbing content. Your position is that if somebody doesn't want to see harmful and disturbing content they shouldn't use the Internet full stop? What a low effort conclusion.

As an adult I'm prepared to risk seeing things I don't want to see in order to watch the content I like to watch. I'm just not prepared for my kids to take that same risk.

Do as I say not as I do.

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samanthablues · 28/08/2024 08:38

It’s funny how if the tik toker was a man in his underwear trying some trousers no man would have open a thread complaining about being outraged. As this thread proves sometimes women are our worst enemies.

spaceshooter · 28/08/2024 07:55

OP, it really is a valid question. You're evidently scrolling through 'sick shit' your words, and complaining about the content on here.

If you don't want your children to see it perhaps you ought to consider setting an example by not engaging with the cesspit you seek to shield them from.

After all, you're the adult.

Sunnysidegold · 28/08/2024 05:53

I actually love videos like this. I see so many more body types than those I grew up seeing in the nineties.

There's a few people I follow who have a bit of a tummy and it is so refreshing to see people with a body more like mine.

It's not like she was naked.

Jennyathemall · 28/08/2024 02:50

DreamTheMoors · 27/08/2024 22:55

Could you be any more condescending?

I could try..?

Josette77 · 28/08/2024 02:23

BanksysSprayCan · 28/08/2024 02:20

It’s usually ‘creators’ trying on ‘hauls’ of fast fashion manufactured in dodgy conditions, destined for landfill after a few wears. I’m longing to see stand up comedians do their best to mock this form of content into oblivion 😂

The fashion vloggers I watch are all wealthy and don't buy fast fashion.

They are much wealthier than me!

BanksysSprayCan · 28/08/2024 02:20

It’s usually ‘creators’ trying on ‘hauls’ of fast fashion manufactured in dodgy conditions, destined for landfill after a few wears. I’m longing to see stand up comedians do their best to mock this form of content into oblivion 😂

DogsAtDawn · 28/08/2024 02:11

It's one thing to object to so much flesh being on display generally. It's quite another to target that general objection at a single woman on Tiktok. I fail to see how making personal comments, about just her covering up, will solve the problem you perceive in semi nudity.

She is just one woman, who is comfortable with her body, trying to make a few quid in a world where you have to make your living wherever the opportunity arises. People are making money with influencing, sponsorship deals, making commentary videos and such because the world is changing. How people make a living is changing. If covering oneself from head to toe in a giant burlap sack made money, she would be doing that instead.

YABU because you made it personal. No need for that. There are plenty of men making horrible comments to women on the internet, clothed or less so, without other women joining in.

ForestForever · 28/08/2024 02:09

I would just like to preface what I’m going to say by stating that I am also a 90s baby and turned 31 last week so we are roughly the same age.

I think at this age if you can’t work out that TikTok is poisonous, indoctrinating trash then you are being unreasonable to consider anything on there appropriate or reasonable. I think it should be banned and no one under the age of 18 should be able to access it. Certainly at the very least people should not be allowing their teenagers and children to access it.

I think the very least of societies trouble with social media lie with people putting a video up of themselves getting dressed into a jumpsuit for a GRWM video. It’s not my cup of tea personally but it’s a drop in the ocean by comparison to all the rest of the content that’s on there. Misinformation, conspiracy theories and people’s malicious agendas are spread like wildfire unchecked with so many people (not just the young) soaking it up like sponges and regurgitating it back out like it’s the absolute truth and normal. It’s so harmful and dangerous to people of all ages and TikTok believe is the worst for it. So many people are being brainwashed it makes me feel so sad and I genuinely dread the future because of it. People may believe that’s an overreaction but they are my feelings nonetheless.

People like the woman you describe are more than aware that they are opening themselves up for criticism which they will receive.
Any comment negative or positive generates revenue for them and they won’t care about what anyone has to say about them because being a ‘social media influencer’ regardless of whether we think they make themselves look a prat or not makes them money and that’s what they care about. Attention through views and comments like yours will literally give them money straight into their back pocket. If it’s not something people want to see then they need to stop interacting with them because it only fuels their cause.

At the end of the day you don’t have to look far on here to see people fall over themselves to make derogatory assumptions and comments degrading peoples situations and life choices even when the threads are not of a particularly sensitive or emotionally charged nature. I think it’s important to note as well how this is an anonymous forum and people still believe they have the right to police other people’s business just because it’s on the internet. You didn’t have to comment, you could have just scrolled on. What you said will have absolutely no bearing on their life whatsoever but you have shown your openness to judge an adult for putting a video up of themselves no less dressed than they would be wearing a bikini on the beach.

In my experience the worst people for walking around the most exposed and barely dressed in public are young adults, teens and preteens. You’ll struggle certainly where I live to find many over the age of thirteen appropriately dressed. I honestly don’t know how their parents can allow them out in public the way that they do. They allow their children to be vulnerable to sexual predators and I think it’s absolutely disgraceful on their part.

I’m aware I’ve gone off on a tangent but my point is that if a grown adult who is fully autonomous and informed makes a video like that and plonks it on the internet of their own free will then that’s their choice and other people shouldn’t have the right to police other people’s decisions as long as it’s not hateful, discriminatory or illegal. Yes, the law has a long way to come for certain things but to compare this to slavery, sex trafficking, rape and such the like is a gross false equivalency and horribly undermines the experience that victims of these crimes suffer. It’s ignorance at its finest and just plain wrong.

In short, I do believe adults should adequately parent their children and make the effort to ensure they are aware of what their children are doing and not exposing themselves both in person and online to dangerous, nefarious people. If people did that then the other adults who didn’t want to see such content could just scroll on or hide the video and move on to a better algorithm.

Pantaloons99 · 28/08/2024 01:58

@Josette77 I wonder if there are some who just feel powerless as to what is happening online at the moment and just want to shout out ' go away,stop it'. A knee jerk reaction as such

I don't think OP went into this clutching pearls wearing ankle length pleated skirt, socks and
Sandles hoping to make it a moral crusade.

I find myself telling the TV to bugger off when I'm forced to observe things I just don't want to! ( Yes I know I can get up andswitch the TV off and leave the house but I'm a house bound defective unfortunately).

I need go find an example of this video 😊

Josette77 · 28/08/2024 01:52

Why bother writing something like that?

You knew it wouldn't change her videos? So just to try and shame her?

Garlicfest · 28/08/2024 01:48

RheaRend · 28/08/2024 01:40

The one who said this causes rape and backed the men who excused rape for this reason.

No idea her name but she supports excusing such criminals.

Oh, thanks. Phew!

TonyeKnausgaard · 28/08/2024 01:47

AGentleMusing · 28/08/2024 00:55

Men objectify women. This reduces women to simple body parts. Men sexualise these body parts.

The conversrion has moved on, as far as I was aware, from jumpsuits to women posting semi naked videos of themselves on SM generally.

Women, especially younger, inexperienced women, do this because this is what they have early confident, attractive and desirable women do and who doesn't want to be that?

Rape myths rely on a number of sexual stereotypes about women and sex.

Women are regarded as 'flaunting' their bodies rather than just having one; school girls are criticised for the way they look on their uniforms etc because of the way the female body is oversexualised.

When women complicit in this oversexualisation of their bodies, posting naked, semi naked videos online. It supports the idea that womens bodies are simply sexual. It validates the idea rather than challenging it.

A rape myths prevail.

So I'm not saying that women are to be blamed for being raped but I am saying that when some women choose to present themselves in a highly sexualised way, believing it to be 'empowering', it reifies the idea that that women do deserve it.

Some of you are spectacularly missing the point.

The point im making isn't that dressing modestly will keep you safe or that wearing reveling clothes will get you raped so it's the victims fault.

My point is that when women objectify and sexualise themselves in exacrly the same way that men do, they are in cahoots with the very same patriarchal system that you are blaming. The one that relies upon and supports the oversexualisation and objectification of women.

You are not able to tell the difference between your opinion and a fact. There are myriad reasons why women enjoy their sexuality. It's not all about men tricking them into enjoying it. For example, burlesque dancers. If you go to a lot of burlesque shows, you'll notice that the crowd is about 90% women. Women enjoy dressing up to feel attractive, myself included. Some women like to take that to a degree that you may not agree with, but no one died and made you captain of the morality police.

You've taken something that should be treasured and celebrated about women and tried to turn into something shameful and dangerous. A woman's body is not a battleground. It's her own to do with what she wants, whatever you think you should be able to dictate to her (- the irony!)

RheaRend · 28/08/2024 01:40

Garlicfest · 28/08/2024 01:32

Which person? The one trying on a jumpsuit?

Whatever planet you're on, I don't like it there.

The one who said this causes rape and backed the men who excused rape for this reason.

No idea her name but she supports excusing such criminals.

Moreofthesamenothanks · 28/08/2024 01:36

This type of gormless people have lots of 'followers ' so I'd probably not bother watching them. Whatever you say won't go down well with the followers.