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Husband rude?

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Ifyouseeitsayit1983 · 27/08/2024 19:14

So all summer I've made the usual effort I make to spend time with with my husband's family. We've had meals out with them, had his parents round for a bbq, I've helped on days out with the little ones on that side of the family and been to his brother's for a meal. Multiple meet ups. At all of these events I've been fully involved in conversations and have shown genuine interest in their lives even though some of them I wouldn't naturally be friends with but you do it because it's family. We've not done anything with my family yet this summer that my husband has had to get involved with. Anyway tonight I was over the field with my parents watching my nephew's footy game. It turned cold. I decided to head home (1 min away) and said to my parents they could sit at mine too if they're cold as they would have to wait around until the end of the game to get a lift back to their home with my sister. I told my husband this when I came in and he said ''if they come round I'm going upstairs as there's not enough room for everyone (not true) and I've had a busy day". I just found it really rude and so two-faced when I'm expected to be little miss sunshine around his family! All he'd have to do was have a small chat, say hi, just sit in the same room for 10-15 mins at the most but he doesn't want to so there we go! AIBU to expect him to tolerate my parents for 15 mins and give them the time of day? They are lovely people, no probs with relationship with any of us so it's not that. I just find the selfishness so baffling sometimes! I'd die of embarrassment if I did the same to his parents and husband would prob be annoyed with me as he thinks his mother is Mother Theresa incarnated!

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Ifyouseeitsayit1983 · 28/08/2024 14:45

And the thing is now, I really don't want to speak to him either until he apologises (which will happen when hell freezes over) so then I feel like I'll be joining in with the silent treatment and causing a bad atmos. I hate being so weak, my self-esteem is rock bottom.

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pikkumyy77 · 28/08/2024 14:38

Begin by stopping apologizing! This is the cycle of abuse—tension builds/-blow up—apology (yours in this case) reset to normal levels of submission (on your part) then punishment again when you try to ask for your needs to be met.

Just stop apologizing and see what happens. State what you see “oh? Silent treatment ? How childish.”

Lillygolightly · 28/08/2024 14:34

So in future when he makes this kind of statement “if you parents are coming here I’m off upstairs” you say “that’s absolutely fine so long as you understand that I get to do the same next time with your parents” and don’t wait for an answer but just walk away. Then next time his parents or family come hold up to what you have said and politely excuse yourself. Sometimes you just have to find ways of making things fair for yourself when someone else is taking the piss!

He may argue (although hard to as what you have stated is nothing less than fair) he may sulk or whatever but the trick here is to not indulge the sulk in any way shape or form! You go about life as you would do, you don’t let it affect you, you don’t apologise you just get on with going about your things as usual and ignore and atmosphere he creates.

His problem along with being an entitled prick is that he’s had far too long without some consequences to his behaviour, and when you do speak up he punishes you with a sulk which has been successful up to now in getting you to either apologise or back down. Stop indulging the sulk, stop apologising and stop tip toeing around the sulky behaviour, pretend as much as you can that it simply doesn’t exist!

My DH used to be a really terrible sulker, I can see why as people used to run round after him (me included for a long while) trying to cheer him up, apologies for whatever and making a fuss trying to bring him out if it. He very rarely does it these days, he knows I find it his most unattractive trait as I have told him, and I suspect he rarely does it now because a) it takes effort to sulk and b) because it no longer has the desired effect because I carry on as normal and no longer pander to it, so all that effort for basically nothing! It took me a good while to get the hang of doing this to be very honest, the urge to just smooth things over was strong, but I honestly just got to a point where I couldn’t put up with it anymore so that helped a lot. In the end he figured out he just had to get over himself, and in my case he did. Maybe yours will do the same, or maybe he’s an abusive twat and will just ramp it up…I suppose only you can answer that OP 💐

Meganssweatycrotch · 28/08/2024 14:06

please speak to your parents. They may be able to help. In fact, they are maybe waiting for you to ask for help 💐

pasturesgreen · 28/08/2024 14:03

Gosh, this makes for a depressing read.

Please don't apologise to him, OP

grumpygrape · 28/08/2024 13:57

OldCrocks · 27/08/2024 22:59

Why would you want your child to 'idolise' a man who is rude, selfish, sulks and will never consider the possibility that he might be in the wrong? I'd have thought it would be a matter of urgency to dilute the influence of a father like that on your DC's emotional development.

Sorry, OP, but this.

Dinosweetpea · 28/08/2024 13:51

You don't need to apologise, this is such an unhealthy dynamic. Your husband is a huge arsehole.

Ifyouseeitsayit1983 · 28/08/2024 13:47

Just went off to work this morning with barely a goodbye. So fed up of never being allowed an opinion. And yet it's me who is feeling guilty today thinking I'll have to apologise later for a peaceful life. I could never afford to leave with my part time job so would need to find something else before I could even consider moving on. What a mess.

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pikkumyy77 · 28/08/2024 13:34

Try looking at a book “too bad to stay too good to leave” and ask yourself whether you want to sacrifice your one and only precious life to this asshole. Because you are slowly bleeding away the days and minutes of your life and getting nothing but abuse and a paycheck in return.

pikkumyy77 · 28/08/2024 12:59

He is emotionally immature and abusive. None of these arguments or the silent treatment should be happening. You have slowly lost sight of what is normal or kind in a marriage.

Ifyouseeitsayit1983 · 28/08/2024 07:33

Thanks to you all for your support, I am so grateful and you have helped me to see that I'm not going mad and was right to call him on it. I've barely slept as I hate going to bed on an argument. We are in a situation now where I'm working part time, term time only, so it falls to me to do everything (and I mean everything) at home and in the garden including every single piece of life admin. This has made me feel like going full time tbh and sharing out the load as I just feel so unappreciated now and actually a bit like a slave, with my life's work to please others. Of course, the sharing out the load would go down like a lead balloon or things just wouldn't get done so then there would be more arguments where I'm wrong or unreasonable.

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notatinydancer · 28/08/2024 07:23

Myusername19 · 27/08/2024 21:51

He sounds autistic. I know alot of autistic ppl and this reminds me of similar thought patterns

No he sounds like an arsehole.

HaveSomeIntrospect · 28/08/2024 00:36

He sounds awful. You don’t sound happy.

how old is your child?

is he like this with your friends too?

wrped · 28/08/2024 00:23

Myusername19 · 27/08/2024 21:51

He sounds autistic. I know alot of autistic ppl and this reminds me of similar thought patterns

no hes an arsehole

wrped · 28/08/2024 00:21

hes a twat, you can do better than him

2sisters · 28/08/2024 00:15

I'd just stop making an effort with his family. Don't arrange anything. If he wants to take the kids then he cam do that alone. Don't buy anything for birthdays or Christmas. Let him manage his relationship with his family and you manage yours. When he gets salty about his family not seeing the kids or not getting Christmas presents then you say I don't think that's rude/ bad / unreasonable. Your family is your responsibility. You have your opinion and I have mine.

Personally, I think you should divorce him not because he was rude to your parents but because he shut you down and is stonewalling you.

Calliopespa · 28/08/2024 00:01

Babyshambles90 · 27/08/2024 22:21

Honestly, I really don’t think you can change people like this, OP. He doesn’t want to change, he thinks he’s always right, and there’s no magic strategy for that. It’s working pretty nicely for him, he gets his way 100% of the time, and he clearly doesn’t care about your feelings. If you have decided you will not be leaving him because you think staying is the best option, is there any point in winding yourself up about whether he is being rude or not? He is, he sounds really unpleasant, and I’d totally be walking away while thinking that my kid would be much better off without such an unhealthy family dynamic, but if you won’t countenance leaving I would think it would be easier psychologically to just view things like this as being one of his quirks and rolling with it? There’s only really any point to getting upset and angry if you’re going to do something with it. You’re not - you don’t even want to push it with him because you’ll be the one to apologise. But in case you change your mind, trust me when I say you are worth way more than this, and you would probably be much happier without him, and your kid will survive the upheaval and grow up knowing that it’s not ok to behave as if you are the only one who matters in a relationship, and not ok to accept that treatment.

I’m going to leave the bits of this post that push you to leave him op, as you have said you don’t want to. I also think the LTB advice on these forums often seems only to extend to the triumphant departing and slamming the door in the face of the possibility taken aback (but normally not as heartbroken as we’d like to think) husband. There is never much contemplation of the financial aspects, the loss of the support that might have been provided with Dc and then we only meet the op again when she’s back to complain about the Dc hating going round to his because the stepmum is mean etc and everyone wrings their hands and says well blended families just don’t work etc.

But I would endorse the comments around changing him. I don’t think you have a hope in hell of changing him by stooping to his level and playing tit for tat. You already know he won’t let you win an argument. So don’t argue: rise above. Next time his parents come, don’t slink off and hide in your room. Sit in prime position on the sofa and get fully involved in the conversation. Make yourself count in the family. Do the right thing and know you’re the better example for your Dc. I think people like your dh tend to respond more to observing they are wrong rather than being told. And if he doesn’t, you are still doing the right thing for you and your Dc by creating a better home and family atmosphere. Why should you sit in your room. It’s your sofa: sit on it. It’s your family: live in it,

Calliopespa · 27/08/2024 23:40

Ifyouseeitsayit1983 · 27/08/2024 21:18

I've ended the argument by just sayingfl fine,next time his parents are round I'll just go upstairs then and hide too.

But truthfully oP that won’t help. I was going to congratulate you on how much effort you make with his family, and how much you value yours. So many people these days are all arsey about “why should I? I don’t like them? This is my life to live how I want to” etc. But the truth is many are lacking the support of extended family and it is making a sicker society. You have acted well in the way you have treated family.

He is a) being rude and b) trying to control you and shut down your feelings by saying you are trying to start an argument- both of which are traits in him that suggest to me extended family support is going to be more, rather than less, important for you in your marriage. If you start treating his parents rudely you play into his hands to the extent that you cut yourself off from their support. Don’t stoop to his level. You are doing the right thing; he isn’t. I would make sure you take your Dc to spend plenty of quality time with your parents and if dh wants to join that’s great. If not, that’s his loss. But don’t cut off your nose to spite your face. Keep you and dc in the heart of both sides of the family. Although it might seem he is “winning” ( a battle that shouldn’t exist), strengthening your relationships is actually strengthening your position. Withdrawing is isolating you and weakening it.

Fizzadora · 27/08/2024 23:19

Myusername19 · 27/08/2024 21:51

He sounds autistic. I know alot of autistic ppl and this reminds me of similar thought patterns

Oh fuck off. He's not autistic he's just a fucking twat.

fitnessmummy · 27/08/2024 23:18

I would do the same to his family to show him how unkind and rude he is

MintyNew · 27/08/2024 23:14

Myusername19 · 27/08/2024 21:51

He sounds autistic. I know alot of autistic ppl and this reminds me of similar thought patterns

Can people stop dishing this out every time someone is an arsehole ???

Yanbu op he is rude and deserves the same. Do it to him and let him argue that

Angelsrose · 27/08/2024 23:08

Your husband sounds unbearable in this particular regard. Don't let him gaslight you and don't let him be rude to your parents. Some men seem unhappy when their wives have good, reliable family around them as it means that they can't get away with everything they would like to.

Greydays3 · 27/08/2024 23:04

You are just ANOTHER abused woman who has put up with his controlling, bully, DARVO abuse for years and know no different.
You married him knowing EXACTLY what he was like.
You had your poor child knowing EXACTLY what he was like.
Your parents know EXACTLY what you married, god love them.
This is who he always was and will continue to be, a rude abusive twat that doesn't care enough about you to behave will basic manners towards your parents.

He simply doesn't care.
He's waiting for you to apologise for his bad behaviour like you always do.
This is your life.
This is what you have chosen, for you and your poor child.
He is no different to what he has always been.
You have been accepting this for years.
We teach people how to treat us.
This is what he knows you will accept.

However painful this is for you, you can be sure it is doubley oainful for your parents to witness.

You deserve better but god love you, you can't see it.

littleblackheart · 27/08/2024 23:01

Ifyouseeitsayit1983 · 27/08/2024 21:45

His arguments back to me make me seriously doubt that I was ever right and that ive over reacted. But surely my parents would feel awkward and unwelcome if he says he's sitting upstairs when he never usually does??

If he's making you doubt yourself and your own feelings then he's gaslighting you.

OldCrocks · 27/08/2024 22:59

Why would you want your child to 'idolise' a man who is rude, selfish, sulks and will never consider the possibility that he might be in the wrong? I'd have thought it would be a matter of urgency to dilute the influence of a father like that on your DC's emotional development.