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Husband made lists about what I have done ‘wrong’

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IfIwasablackbird · 27/08/2024 10:24

We were in the car with the kids recently and I opened his phone to put google maps on. He was driving.
It came up with a list of things about me ‘No food shopping left Tuesday, nothing to cook for dinner’ and it went on, chores and things.
I asked and kind of ignored it as the kids were in the car.
When I asked later he said it was in case I brought up things he hasn’t done, so he’s made lists about me!!?!? I was so shocked.
I pointed out that I am not solely responsible for food shopping, he had actually done it that particular weekend.

We both work full time and it’s fair to say I do just about all life admin, all the school stuff, Drs, dentists, school uniform etc.
I then realise there are more lists, with stuff such as ‘went for a run, had to watch child2 while she went to have hair done’.

I’m just so hurt and upset and he sees absolutely no issue, won’t even apologise.

I can’t get past it and he doesn’t care. Basically it’s more convenient for him if I just pretend I didn’t see this.

Am I being unreasonable to feel this is a dealbreaker? It just shows a total lack of respect. We’ve been together 20 years and he has always been quite selfish but this is just next level nasty.

OP posts:
Nomoretakeaways · 27/08/2024 13:23

He sees the relationship as transactional and sees nothing wrong with doing so. He sounds very damaged to hold such views and I would be reviewing whether I want to stay with this man if I were you.

bringmorewashing · 27/08/2024 13:23

Gosh, so sorry OP. I just wanted to add to everyone else's comments that this is an absolutely horrible thing for him to have done, completely out of order and very telling of the way he sees you, and probably women in general by the sound of it.

I hope you're able to leave him. You deserve respect. I'd be presenting him with a list of all the reasons why he was a shit husband as a parting gift!

olympicsrock · 27/08/2024 13:22

Holy moly he is a truly horrible person.
this would be a deal breaker for me.
I’m so sorry OP

crumpet · 27/08/2024 13:21

He’s a Nasty little points scorer. People don’t do this to those they like and respect.

Pearlyo · 27/08/2024 13:20

Yeah when MNetters suggest women write those lists about what each does in the household it’s very different.

They are meant to be a way of opening up discussion with the aim of bringing about change, so the person can say for example - look DP, list A is way longer than List B, we both work full-time let’s move things around so it’s equal. And this is usually only suggested where someone partner is refusing to accept his belief that they do roughly the same amount is false. If they were able to resolve it with just a chat they would do that first no doubt.

They’re never just meant to be drawn up for women to stare at in their phone and get enraged.

I think he’s planning to leave Op and this ever growing list is what he will use to assuage his guilt because we all know men hate feeling guilt at discarding their wives but they don’t hate it enough not to do it .

Luio · 27/08/2024 13:19

@Nanny0gg and I am sure it goes down brilliantly when it is presented to the other person.

Lists like this are horrible. My mum brings lots of joy and laughter to my parents relationship but my dad does more household chores as he is more physically energetic. How do those things stack up on a list? My mum would be hurt because she would feel her work in the house was not valued and my dad would feel upset because he might think he was seen as the duller one (neither is true). In my view, no good can ever come out of making lists.

MounjaroUser · 27/08/2024 13:19

If I were you I'd find the best lawyer you can and leave it up to them. In all likelihood neither of you will have the house, so I'd get used to that idea now. It will take him a lot longer, I'm sure.

How old are your children?

HmAndAh · 27/08/2024 13:17

Nanny0gg · 27/08/2024 13:11

You think what he's done (and how he behaves) is acceptable?

You appear to be in a minority of one here

I think the list is his own private matter on his own private phone. He is absolutely entitled to it. I would also not apologise for anything that I consider deeply private.

I also believe that the list is not out of nowhere. But OP in her rage doesn't want to look at the whole picture and reassess what actually happening and what is in her best interests.

The episode with the Shakespearean play is actually much more concerning and is simply mean not only to OP but to their daughter.

FusionChefGeoff · 27/08/2024 13:17

What the fuck?!?!

Who gets to decide what is 'your job' to allow him to write the fucking list in the first place?!? I assume he's 'allocated' you a tonne of shitty wife work that he's perfectly capable of doing himself but notes it down on his pathetic little list when his 'appliance' has failed?!

I'd be having a very serious think about divorce as this shows such a huge imbalance / level of disrespect I don't think I could get past it.

Cattery · 27/08/2024 13:15

I’d give him a list of all the reasons he’s a cunt

Beginningless · 27/08/2024 13:14

I’m so sorry OP. In time I hope this will feel like a kindness, that he showed you so clearly his lack of capacity to be in a loving relationship, that you now feel ‘I can’t do this anymore’. A happy future awaits you but this part may not be so easy.

Runnerinthenight · 27/08/2024 13:13

HmAndAh · 27/08/2024 13:09

So do you suggest that everything was lovely in the family, all happiness and love, and then suddenly OP discovers this list, completely out of nowhere and shocked how could it possibly happen as she has been a really good partner and blameless for anything?

I don't think that everything was lovely - I think he's been treating her like shit for years! Did you actually read the OP's posts at all??!

GoldenLegend · 27/08/2024 13:13

Nanny0gg · 27/08/2024 13:11

You think what he's done (and how he behaves) is acceptable?

You appear to be in a minority of one here

It’s a troll.

RosesAndHellebores · 27/08/2024 13:12

@IfIwasablackbird List:

  1. All key documents, including passports in one place.
  2. Make appointment with solicitor
  3. Ring-fence funds (if you can).
  4. Reasons for divorce:
Selfishness Gaslighting Unkindness Minimising Lack of respect Being a WANKER

I am usually the last to say LTB.

Good luck.

WhoopsyDaisySugar · 27/08/2024 13:12

Do whatever you need to do to keep yourself and DC safe until the day you are ready to leave, contact the Police or serve divorce papers.

For example, in some cases you may need to pretend nothing has changed until the day you enact your Exit Plan.

It may be best to continue to shop, cook and wash his clothes until the day you get rid of him, IF that will keep you and DC safe.
I like the whiteboard list suggestion, but don’t do it if you know his reaction to it is likely to result in him physically abusing you.
Please call the Police each and every time he physically abuses you. Show the Police photos of your previous bruises and also tell them about the emotional and verbal abuse, and coercive control, including any financial coercive control.

Do you work, OP?
Do you have your own bank account he does not have access to?
Start saving as little or as much money as you can. Buying supermarket gift vouchers every time you go shopping is a great way to save money without a controlling partner finding out.

Nanny0gg · 27/08/2024 13:11

HmAndAh · 27/08/2024 13:09

So do you suggest that everything was lovely in the family, all happiness and love, and then suddenly OP discovers this list, completely out of nowhere and shocked how could it possibly happen as she has been a really good partner and blameless for anything?

You think what he's done (and how he behaves) is acceptable?

You appear to be in a minority of one here

NCmybloodyfather · 27/08/2024 13:11

IfIwasablackbird · 27/08/2024 12:39

@pinkyredrose 17 and he was 25.

🚩
Look after yourself and build a better life for you and your child, OP x

Nanny0gg · 27/08/2024 13:10

Luio · 27/08/2024 12:55

Making lists of jobs done/not done is a technique often advised by mumsnetters as a way of showing a poster’s DH how useless he is. I have always thought it was horrible and would make me want to leave my partner if they did this.

No. A comparison list is suggested

To point out to people like the OP's husband where the imbalance in the relationship is.

Pearlyo · 27/08/2024 13:09

sallyanne33 · 27/08/2024 12:19

I genuinely think a lot of men don’t see their female partners as equal humans, just as service robots. They don’t actually like us and certainly don’t love us. You can see this clearly in the list and how he tries to make you look stupid in front of your kids. Sorry for you OP. Leave him behind and you’ll thrive.

Yes it’s been a real shock to me the past few years finally realising how many men see women.

OP this is awful, I’m glad you’ve realise the gravity of this situation.

whynotwhatknot · 27/08/2024 13:09

wtf bossy? were has op been bossy

souns like a gasligter an prick-would love to see this brought up in court-she made me look after my own child!

HmAndAh · 27/08/2024 13:09

Gymnopedie · 27/08/2024 13:03

Sorry, I think you've posted on the wrong thread. That's not what any other poster is reading on this one. Unless you're the husband...

So do you suggest that everything was lovely in the family, all happiness and love, and then suddenly OP discovers this list, completely out of nowhere and shocked how could it possibly happen as she has been a really good partner and blameless for anything?

Nanny0gg · 27/08/2024 13:08

@NoTouch

What on earth makes you think he'd be prepared to do any more??

And that list was vile

Nanny0gg · 27/08/2024 13:05

HmAndAh · 27/08/2024 12:55

It only shows that your DH is unhappy and wants to pull out examples quick in when arguing with you.
OP, do you argue a lot?
TBH you also do sound as very resentful and unpleasant to your husband in all the replies. So why are you surprised that he is also resentful? At least he keeps it quiet.
If I see the list I would not mention it, but keep in mind that the resentment is growing, and then decide whether to act on it or not.

Overall, you do sound quite bossy and black and white.

What thread are you reading?

Nanny0gg · 27/08/2024 13:05

IfIwasablackbird · 27/08/2024 12:06

@2sisters I feel familiarity. I was a teenager when we met and he was in his mid 20s.
I’ve never known better.

How old are your children?

Does he treat them as badly? Or get them to collude with him?

FloralMoon · 27/08/2024 13:04

This is so weird. Just seems like a really ‘off’ thing to do. It’s like the beginning of some psychological thriller not real life. He sounds quite vindictive.

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