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These teachers and their questionable choices

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Whitesparkled123 · 27/08/2024 08:44

1 of these teachers is a mum at my DC school and she doesn't teach at the school. One of them is a teacher at my DC school and the other is a teacher at another school. They are all friends with each other. I'm trying to be vague as this could be outing.

I'm not really that close to them but know of their partying lifestyle. All 3 have children. They often go to raves, parties and do drugs. I found out last week that 1 of them held a party and couldn't find childcare so left their children in their home whilst partying at the bottom of their garden (which is quite far). They were all there and were all on drugs. The school mum host got people to take it in turns to watch the children. Often after they have been out and are on come downs they have their children.

I've just seen one of them has been to a well known event in London. Her whole family went including the children. She's posted pics and her youngest DC is asleep on the floor (it was held on the streets). I'm shocked. I just think why would you put your own needs above those of your children.
But what can I do? I can't actually prove any of this. Plus I'm not ok with them being teachers and coming into work on the Monday with a potential come down.

OP posts:
Heronwatcher · 27/08/2024 09:45

Even if it is class A, unless they have a history of drugs offences the likelihood is that they wouldn’t be prosecuted for first offence. I saw recently that only 1 in 7 people in some areas are prosecuted if found in possession of class A drugs for personal use.

Also I do know of instances where if one parent takes weed/ a pill the other stays clean that night so they are in charge of the kids. Again, not ideal, I wouldn’t do it but is it really that much worse than both parents being off their faces drunk at home?

I agree, if you think the kids are at risk make a safeguarding report, but if you don’t want to do that there’s really nothing else to get worked up about. You know about these instances but I bet other teachers your kids have had have done the same, been to orgies, had sex in club toilets, watched porn, stolen something, driven dangerously, abused their partners etc. Personally I’d probably rather a bit of recreational drug use than being a member of reform or some of the other examples but the whole issue is that if we expect teachers to live like nuns/ monks then there probably wouldn’t be any teachers!

You do realise that the reason why all of the programmes about schools (Bad Education, Sex Education, Waterloo Road etc) are so popular is that they are pretty realistic!!

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 27/08/2024 09:45

DebateWithMoi · 27/08/2024 09:44

I am high up in one of those professions and let me tell you, drugs would have you sacked. Do you really think police go to raves and take drugs on their days off? Christ

Do you really think there are no doctors/police out there who take drugs?
And that raves audiences are uniquely made up of young drug addicts (and teachers 😂)?

NowImNotDoingIt · 27/08/2024 09:45

Rubyandscarlett · 27/08/2024 09:40

Used to work in a school and we were always told we can't have anything that could damage the school's rep so am surprised this has gone on social media.
Am also surprised people saying yabu - if you are concerned op, contact their schools. I thinkndrugs are a different kettle of fish to drink - don't ask me why, l just do.

OP is BU because she has "concerns" but doesn't want to do anything about them , except gossip and moan how terrible these women/teachers are.

SammyScrounge · 27/08/2024 09:45

PurpleChrayn · 27/08/2024 09:09

I'm pretty sure that every single one of the cool mums saying this is fine would absolutely lose their shit if these women were teaching their children!

I'm sure that they would. And they would be right.

Matronic6 · 27/08/2024 09:44

Have I entered some parallel fucking universe??? Shocked by the amount of posters telling OP to mind her own business!

I am a teacher and this is absolutely a safeguarding concern. If I knew for a fact that a parent was doing class a drugs whilst they had their children in their care I would be obliged to report it to the safeguarding lead.

DebateWithMoi · 27/08/2024 09:44

ThePrologue · 27/08/2024 09:04

If that's your attitude, please don't wonder about the social and partying habits of doctors and nurses...
Or police people
Or ambulance workers
Or fire people

I am high up in one of those professions and let me tell you, drugs would have you sacked. Do you really think police go to raves and take drugs on their days off? Christ

Education79 · 27/08/2024 09:42

Eskimalita · 27/08/2024 09:39

None of your business. Alcohol is the most damaging drug.

Alcohol is not illegal, drugs are, as teachers we are expected to uphold the law, if we do not our regulatory body can disqualify us from holding a teaching position. Its that simple.

TheMarzipanDildo · 27/08/2024 09:42

THisbackwithavengeance · 27/08/2024 09:06

I always find it quite strange that on MN if you give your kid sugar or any drink other than water or your kid is overweight then posters start frothing at the mouth and calling social services.

And yet drug taking even around kids is seen as perfectly ok and even encouraged as "winding down".

Some very defensive replies on here.

I concur! It’s strange.

SadieDadie · 27/08/2024 09:41

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 27/08/2024 09:35

Because if you live with someone who does drugs you see it. She says 'I found out they had a party', I just found out one of them went to an event'- so she has no evidence of any drug taking. How does she know what those two teachers do in their gardens or living room? Either she is there doing lines with them, or sits at the window trying to Xray through the walls to see what thay are up to imagining they are coked up. She admitted having no evidence of anything, but is throwing around accusations that could damage peoples lives beyong repair.

OP seems extremely jealous/weirdly obsessed about some people because they are teachers who are likely having fun, and obviously teachers should not be having fun, they should be chained to desks.

Did you read all of the thread? She has been with them when they do this, but not taken it herself. She hears them openly speak about it.

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 27/08/2024 09:41

I found out last week that 1 of them held a party and couldn't find childcare so left their children in their home whilst partying at the bottom of their garden (which is quite far).

Also I am quite jealous of the teacher with a garden so massive that the end of it is very far away from the home! I guess it also grates you OP the teacher has a nice house with a garden?

And the teachers dared to have a drink in the garden as the children were being supervised in the house? Terrible terrible crime.

Education79 · 27/08/2024 09:41

As teachers, when we qualify with QTS we sign up to a code of ethics called Teachers Standards, these impose conduct responsibilities on us both at work and outside of work.

If we are found to have fallen short we can face a disciplinary panel at the Teacher Regulation Agency, and potentially, be disbarred from employment as a teacher for life.

Drug taking is one such reason a career could be ended.

OP you can either report your suspicions to the school, who will investigate, and if the feel it is serious enough notify the TRA, or contact the police, who will again investigate, and notify the TRA if needed.

In respect of the children, you can report to SS. You don't have to prove anything, you report a concern, the agency involved investigates if they feel the concern has merit, and if they find evidence proceed accordingly.

Rubyandscarlett · 27/08/2024 09:40

Used to work in a school and we were always told we can't have anything that could damage the school's rep so am surprised this has gone on social media.
Am also surprised people saying yabu - if you are concerned op, contact their schools. I thinkndrugs are a different kettle of fish to drink - don't ask me why, l just do.

Eskimalita · 27/08/2024 09:39

None of your business. Alcohol is the most damaging drug.

MyFaceIsAnAONB · 27/08/2024 09:38

You say you don’t have evidence but you say she’s posted pics of her kid asleep on the street. I’d definitely use those and report her to… someone? Maybe I’d ring the NSPCC and see what they say. That is so sad and shocking. Poor kid!

Shinyandnew1 · 27/08/2024 09:38

Whitesparkled123 · 27/08/2024 09:13

Yes but how can I then prove that? Without physical evidence?

You said you have seen it with your own eyes, yes?

If you want to report them to social services, do it.

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 27/08/2024 09:37

C8H10N4O2 · 27/08/2024 09:26

This. Its going to make a great report "I was at a drug addled rave and I want to tell you about three women at the drug addled rave".

The OP apparently thinks taking the family to Notting Hill Carnival is some kind of crime/child abuse so I'd question their judgement in general.

That's what happend when you never leave your house and only watch the NHC on the TV for 10 seconds when they reported someone being stabbed, and have no clue about the actual event.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2024 09:37

I suppose it’s what you can prove. Are they driving whilst under the influence of drugs? Are they teaching while under the influence of drugs?

Pocketfullofdogtreats · 27/08/2024 09:37

YANBU.
You are getting a hard time on here, OP. I wouldn't worry about the party or the child asleep at the carnival - this kind of thing (dch asleep under tables, group keeps an eye on them). But the drugs thing is very relevant I think to their profession. If they are going to do this in their private lives then they should be more discreet and professional. I'm just thinking back to my dch's teachers - could they have been doing drugs at parties? Possibly. Did it cross mind at the time? No, because they were committed to their class and were professional.

Thewolvesarerunningagain · 27/08/2024 09:37

Whitesparkled123 · 27/08/2024 08:58

Wow I'm getting a tough time here. I'm trying to be vague but yes I have seen it with my own eyes. That's how I know.

Pedantic sidebar but….Something can be both true and gossip. Gossiping is simply using info about a person (right or wrong) out of context to undermine that person’s social standing or boost your own.

Back to the point, yes you are being unreasonable

BiscuityBoyle · 27/08/2024 09:35

So you know these people well enough to be invited to the party but now you want to report them and they could potentially lose their jobs?

I don’t agree with the drug taking but would you think differently about the party if they were at the bottom of the garden drinking Prosecco and gin and tonic? It also depends on how old the children are. Newborn baby? Not really on. 15 year old. Meh.

CultOfRamen · 27/08/2024 09:35

ThePrologue · 27/08/2024 09:04

If that's your attitude, please don't wonder about the social and partying habits of doctors and nurses...
Or police people
Or ambulance workers
Or fire people

Or politicians.
athletes.
construction workers.
etc etc
if everyone who did drugs was sacked the economy would grind to a standstill

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 27/08/2024 09:35

SadieDadie · 27/08/2024 09:26

Why? Surely you've just got to tale the details from the post as facts like every thread on here, otherwise all you'd be doing is going around making assumptions and your own versions of every post.

Because if you live with someone who does drugs you see it. She says 'I found out they had a party', I just found out one of them went to an event'- so she has no evidence of any drug taking. How does she know what those two teachers do in their gardens or living room? Either she is there doing lines with them, or sits at the window trying to Xray through the walls to see what thay are up to imagining they are coked up. She admitted having no evidence of anything, but is throwing around accusations that could damage peoples lives beyong repair.

OP seems extremely jealous/weirdly obsessed about some people because they are teachers who are likely having fun, and obviously teachers should not be having fun, they should be chained to desks.

Zanatdy · 27/08/2024 09:33

It’s pretty awful but I don’t think there’s anything you can do about it

CultOfRamen · 27/08/2024 09:31

AFmammaG · 27/08/2024 08:58

Are you talking about Notting Hill Carnival? It’s quite acceptable to take children and yes, sometimes they do fall asleep.

What drugs do you think they do?

This.
someone smoking a joint at a party and someone having a party to inject heroin are two very different issues.

SmileEachDay · 27/08/2024 09:30

OP

For the zillionth time: do you have an issue with their teaching?

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