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These teachers and their questionable choices

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Whitesparkled123 · 27/08/2024 08:44

1 of these teachers is a mum at my DC school and she doesn't teach at the school. One of them is a teacher at my DC school and the other is a teacher at another school. They are all friends with each other. I'm trying to be vague as this could be outing.

I'm not really that close to them but know of their partying lifestyle. All 3 have children. They often go to raves, parties and do drugs. I found out last week that 1 of them held a party and couldn't find childcare so left their children in their home whilst partying at the bottom of their garden (which is quite far). They were all there and were all on drugs. The school mum host got people to take it in turns to watch the children. Often after they have been out and are on come downs they have their children.

I've just seen one of them has been to a well known event in London. Her whole family went including the children. She's posted pics and her youngest DC is asleep on the floor (it was held on the streets). I'm shocked. I just think why would you put your own needs above those of your children.
But what can I do? I can't actually prove any of this. Plus I'm not ok with them being teachers and coming into work on the Monday with a potential come down.

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DodoTired · 01/09/2024 01:09

I think you are catastrophising based on you describing Notting Hill Carnival as if it is some cesspit of depravity where children don’t belong 🙄

Justnevergetsthere · 30/08/2024 19:08

You mean well OP, but you could make things worse for the children. Imagine the mothers lost their jobs and got a criminal record - how badly would that affect the children's lives. Some people can handle their party lifestyle along with work. Do the kids look neglected? You had a bad experience with your parents, but you shouldn't project on other people unless you are absolutely sure that the children are in danger, and have concrete evidence. If they are under performing at work, it will be picked up on in one way or another. Just distance yourself from them to avoid stressing about it.

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 29/08/2024 18:40

Noodles1234 · 28/08/2024 19:11

I sympathise, if it’s weed I don’t think people realise how pungent it is - and how common it is getting! Two people near my house (yes I’ve seen them in the garden and out and about locally smoking it), and it stinks the houses out in the local area. Lots of people are fed up, but not sure what we can actually do - one is a high ranking teacher too.

i guess being a Teacher yes they’re human, but like Police and Doctors meant to be on the whole a pinnacle of good morals in society.

And it's sadly very wrong that you expect any profession to be a "a pinnacle of good morals in society." Why? Oh, the hipocrisy.
You can become a pinaccle yourself, let others live their lives.

Dinosaurhearmeroar · 29/08/2024 06:44

lots of people in all
professions do drugs - the doctors I went to uni with were some of the worst!

Greenshed · 28/08/2024 21:08

You say you’re not close to them, but “know of their lifestyle”. How can you possibly know a persons lifestyle if you’re not close to them?
You know they take drugs? How? Have you seen them take them? If not, how do you know? Someone told you? If so, how can you be sure of their facts? Sorry, but there’s a lot of holes in what you say - you are being extremely vague because, as you say, you don’t want to “out”, but to be honest, your presumptions are based on maybes, what you’ve heard. You’ve said “you know for a fact”, but do you? How? You seem unwilling to expand on this and use the excuse of “outing”. Sorry, but you need to be a lot clearer, rather than posting these veiled suppositions.

Noodles1234 · 28/08/2024 19:11

I sympathise, if it’s weed I don’t think people realise how pungent it is - and how common it is getting! Two people near my house (yes I’ve seen them in the garden and out and about locally smoking it), and it stinks the houses out in the local area. Lots of people are fed up, but not sure what we can actually do - one is a high ranking teacher too.

i guess being a Teacher yes they’re human, but like Police and Doctors meant to be on the whole a pinnacle of good morals in society.

Apolloneuro · 28/08/2024 19:05

I bet other attendees had responsible jobs, but no - we hate teachers and we hate women.

WorkerBee123 · 28/08/2024 18:40

Get a life OP

pollymere · 28/08/2024 18:39

It's against the Teaching Standards and you could lose the right to practice. Most schools have a Clause about not bringing them into disrepute too. I wasn't allowed to wear PJs shopping as part of my Contract 😂.

I'm not sure what you can do. You could contact the local Safeguarding Team, or the Heads at the schools they work at.

Sharptonguedwoman · 28/08/2024 18:29

Mind your own business.

Obi1973 · 28/08/2024 18:20

Everyone is entitled to a private life including teachers.
if you believe that the children are at risk I suggest you contact Social Services otherwise - mind your own business.

PassPassPass · 28/08/2024 18:01

And teachers don’t have a ‘code of conduct’ that says they can’t party - where on earth have you heard that?

PassPassPass · 28/08/2024 17:59

It’s absolutely none of your business what teachers get up to in their spare time. Just the same as it’s mine if your business what your doctor, accountant or cleaner gets up to. If you think their children are at risk then report them. Otherwise stop being a busybody.

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 28/08/2024 14:54

eish · 28/08/2024 11:04

I am a teacher and I agree that we uphold the teacher’s standards.

you have two issues 1) their parenting and safeguarding their own children. 2) their ability to teach.

as others have advised if you are genuinely concerned about their children you have a duty of care to raise this. If you unsure you can speak to the nspcc.

  1. you’ve said you think it effects their teaching. In this case this is simply hearsay and gossip. Leave that until it affects your child.

The OP said she does not want her kids to be taught by teachers on a come down but has zero proof this is actually happen, nor any proof those teachers actually take drugs to begin with.

Your second point is totally contradicting. Surely if OP knew any children were taught by people on drugs, hers or not, should report it.

But in this case, many other people would have already known of it. But, shock horror, not a single person in their two schools clocked in somerhing is amiss includinz a few dozens of professionals- but OP who is not even in either of the schools to witness their teaching somehow knows about it?
Make of that what you will.

eish · 28/08/2024 11:04

I am a teacher and I agree that we uphold the teacher’s standards.

you have two issues 1) their parenting and safeguarding their own children. 2) their ability to teach.

as others have advised if you are genuinely concerned about their children you have a duty of care to raise this. If you unsure you can speak to the nspcc.

  1. you’ve said you think it effects their teaching. In this case this is simply hearsay and gossip. Leave that until it affects your child.
Fancycheese · 28/08/2024 10:55

Whitesparkled123 · 27/08/2024 21:53

I've read everyone's responses. I want to say how utterly shocked i am at the responses. Posters calling me names and others names because we don't condone illegal activities and thinking about the safety of the school children and their own children. I hope you all feel happy with yourselves that this is your stance. It's crystal clear here who would turn a blind eye and who may even take drugs themselves and think it's then OK to be around children. Your words don't upset me, but I feel sorry for you that you think this. Shame on you.

As I previously mentioned I don't want to say too much as it could be outing. But I know in myself the truth of what I've seen and heard. In my OP I spoke of 2 events. There's been more but I'm not going into them for outing reasons.

I've come onto MN to ask for opinions and advice as I really thought all people would see it wasn't acceptable. Of course I care about their children and the school children. I'm not jealous or hateful. I'm just thinking about the welfare of them. I'm not a gossip either, just trying to gage what to do and the best way to go about it.

Teachers do have a higher standards and that's what they agreed to by signing their contract. They read the teaching standards and their codes of conduct. You are trusted to look after children, to safeguard those children. To also look after your own kids.

I grew up with my parents getting wasted at parties whilst I was young and I was there. I hated it. I felt unsafe. I don't drink hardly now, and I certainly wouldn't around my DC. That's my choice but I know the impact. These other people are so naive to the impacts their actions can have.

“Shame on you” 😂 brilliant.

Is this a parody of MN?

Have you reported these Hells Angels then? Or did you just come on here to feel superior? Not that you seem to need any help with that.

PADDY17 · 28/08/2024 10:50

Whitesparkled123 · 27/08/2024 21:53

I've read everyone's responses. I want to say how utterly shocked i am at the responses. Posters calling me names and others names because we don't condone illegal activities and thinking about the safety of the school children and their own children. I hope you all feel happy with yourselves that this is your stance. It's crystal clear here who would turn a blind eye and who may even take drugs themselves and think it's then OK to be around children. Your words don't upset me, but I feel sorry for you that you think this. Shame on you.

As I previously mentioned I don't want to say too much as it could be outing. But I know in myself the truth of what I've seen and heard. In my OP I spoke of 2 events. There's been more but I'm not going into them for outing reasons.

I've come onto MN to ask for opinions and advice as I really thought all people would see it wasn't acceptable. Of course I care about their children and the school children. I'm not jealous or hateful. I'm just thinking about the welfare of them. I'm not a gossip either, just trying to gage what to do and the best way to go about it.

Teachers do have a higher standards and that's what they agreed to by signing their contract. They read the teaching standards and their codes of conduct. You are trusted to look after children, to safeguard those children. To also look after your own kids.

I grew up with my parents getting wasted at parties whilst I was young and I was there. I hated it. I felt unsafe. I don't drink hardly now, and I certainly wouldn't around my DC. That's my choice but I know the impact. These other people are so naive to the impacts their actions can have.

Well said OP

I still believe that anyone that has any sort of job around care giving, teaching children should know that taking drugs at any time is just not acceptable.

Edingril · 28/08/2024 10:03

Whitesparkled123 · 27/08/2024 21:53

I've read everyone's responses. I want to say how utterly shocked i am at the responses. Posters calling me names and others names because we don't condone illegal activities and thinking about the safety of the school children and their own children. I hope you all feel happy with yourselves that this is your stance. It's crystal clear here who would turn a blind eye and who may even take drugs themselves and think it's then OK to be around children. Your words don't upset me, but I feel sorry for you that you think this. Shame on you.

As I previously mentioned I don't want to say too much as it could be outing. But I know in myself the truth of what I've seen and heard. In my OP I spoke of 2 events. There's been more but I'm not going into them for outing reasons.

I've come onto MN to ask for opinions and advice as I really thought all people would see it wasn't acceptable. Of course I care about their children and the school children. I'm not jealous or hateful. I'm just thinking about the welfare of them. I'm not a gossip either, just trying to gage what to do and the best way to go about it.

Teachers do have a higher standards and that's what they agreed to by signing their contract. They read the teaching standards and their codes of conduct. You are trusted to look after children, to safeguard those children. To also look after your own kids.

I grew up with my parents getting wasted at parties whilst I was young and I was there. I hated it. I felt unsafe. I don't drink hardly now, and I certainly wouldn't around my DC. That's my choice but I know the impact. These other people are so naive to the impacts their actions can have.

Then go to the police

Oldinjuryhelp111037 · 28/08/2024 09:57

Teachers are some of the wildest people I know!

StolenChanel · 28/08/2024 09:48

@Getonwitit please read the post above yours. My reply to you would be the exact same as my reply to the flapjack.

Getonwitit · 28/08/2024 09:45

StolenChanel · 27/08/2024 14:58

I have a few (genuine) questions for all of the posters up in arms about recreational drug use (for teachers or anyone else): Do you drink alcohol? If so, how much/often? Do you drink around your kids at all? (Even if it’s just a glass here and there).

The reason I ask is I’ve never understood the relaxed attitude to alcohol vs (some) other recreational drugs, and I also don’t understand why alcohol is legal when lots of other drugs are not. I think my lack of understanding here is the main reason I also can’t understand all of the pearl clutching in this thread.

Edited

You argue the fact that you can't see why alcohol is legal but drugs aren't but it doesn't matter why the fact is illegal drugs are against the law end of no argument. Would yo argue the fact that as a girl is nearly 16 it is ok for a bloke to sleep with her, how close to 16 would make it ok, a week, a month or 9 months. The law is the law.

StolenChanel · 28/08/2024 08:17

@flapjackfairy no one claimed anything about understanding the law; I understand the law perfectly well and also have a wide enough understanding of the law and my own liberties to, as you call it, “pick and choose”, just as most of those who led the country for the last 14 years (and many others in protected positions) do. I’m not going to derail the thread with my views and opinions on the current legal system, particularly around the criminalisation of recreational drugs, nor am I going to invite you into my PMs to discuss it further because frankly, I don’t care what your views and opinions are. If you took away your sneering judgements when reading my post with the questions and read the follow up too, you would see that it was coming from a place of human understanding and not the bullshit laws imposed on us.

If you ever do happen to come across my real name somehow, feel free to call the police and tell them that I smoke weed. Maybe save my username so you can keep an eye out, just in case.

flapjackfairy · 28/08/2024 07:37

StolenChanel · 28/08/2024 07:20

🙄 Report me then.

Well that would be a bit difficult under the circumstances! You were claiming you didn't understand how the current laws work so I was enlightening you. Should you have anything you wish to confess feel free to PM me or contact the authorities yourself. with the required evidence !

lemonmeringueno3 · 28/08/2024 07:31

OP, if you think that children are at risk then you need to report this. You don't need evidence, you just report what you have seen and let ss decide whether to take it further. I feel that they would certainly be contacted, which would be quite a shock to them and might make them reconsider some of their choices.

But to be taken seriously I would try to unpick the actions that are actually putting children at risk.

For example - they are allowed to attend raves and parties, they are allowed to sit in the garden while the children are asleep inside and supervised by an adult, they are allowed to attend a street event and allow their child to sleep in a supervised, safe spot. You might disagree, but ss will not bat an eyelid at any of that.

But regularly taking Class A drugs around their children, having drugs in the house, being under the influence of drugs whilst teaching, will be taken seriously so I'd stick to that.

StolenChanel · 28/08/2024 07:20

flapjackfairy · 28/08/2024 00:28

Well drugs are illegal whether you can understand it or not and we live in a society where we expect people to obey the law of the land because that is how a functioning society works. We do not get to pick and choose which laws we will obey and which we will ignore. If you don't agree with said laws then you are at liberty to start a campaign to try to change them.

🙄 Report me then.