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Can't take the pressure of being the breadwinner

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Canttakethepressureanymore · 26/08/2024 19:43

I am married with 2 young DC (I am the woman in the marriage). I am the primary earner - 2/3 of household income - and we have a very nice lifestyle on my salary. My DH works but has not/does not feel any need to push ahead in his career and earn more. In fact, he's thinking of scaling back.... I took short mat leaves so as not to interrupt my career progression. I'm now on the precipice of taking more senior roles (basically the very top of management) and I just can't take it.

I have always hated my work and only done it for the money (a necessity when younger, obviously). I suppose I was somewhat oblivious to the fact that DH wasn't doing the same. All my free time is spent with DC, which I love, but I literally do nothing for myself. I just work and do childcare. DH does loads around the house and with the kids (although I still do a 50% at least, including all night wakings, and all the planning/mental load). I have a cleaner. FWIW my DH loves his job, has hobbies and is a much happier person than me.

I just need a break. My mental health is on the floor, I'm snappy and feel like there is no point in life. I cry everyday. But financially there is no option for me to quit (I could not progress, but I can't quit). We do not live a lavish lifestyle but we don't need to think about money. I have savings but don't feel I could wipe them out (my DC's future) by going off sick and living off them. I've tried to explain to my DH but don't think he realises how bad I feel. I'm going to have to take medication but it's not going to address the actual problem.

I have no mental space to think about myself or even really think about my DC's non-immediate needs. I need a time out.

Has anyone else felt like this?

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Butterflies878 · 26/08/2024 21:15

I’m in a similar situation. I negotiated a 9 day fortnight on full time pay, on the proviso that I work when I need to including evenings and weekends regularly and it works for nobody if I start working 90% because that’s what they would be paying me. I still deliver everything I need to (and often do bits of work on the 10th day) but just having a bit of a break every 2 weeks from the constant stress and hamster wheel is really helpful.

Canttakethepressureanymore · 26/08/2024 21:15

Cookiecrumblepie · 26/08/2024 21:11

To respond to your original question OP, no I have never felt like this. Partly because my husband pulls his weight but partly also because I refuse to take on more than my share. I think often it’s the martyr that facilitates this type of situation and then has a breakdown which in reality is entirely avoidable.

I know women who are extremely busy in high pressure roles that complain, but then they never change anything and I think that they secretly like being super important, needed and busy. Are you one of these people? If you aren’t, you clearly need to just make life changes and stop facilitating your husbands laziness. You are setting a bad example for your children by working yourself into the ground and being miserable. Would you want them to take after you and do the same? Be an example and change things so your husband gets shit done, earns more and you can scale back. Or just survive on less money. Many do, and we all know money doesn’t buy happiness.

I totally see the martyr argument but not sure it's that straightforward. I have always been an achiever and a coper. I have never asked for below with anything, ever! Can't think of a single example. Must be some childhood thing.... I do feel huge guilt at leaving my children and/or going to do something nice. Appreciate that's my issue but I don't like to feel 'important' because, as I said, nobody actually cares about how I feel!

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Cookiecrumblepie · 26/08/2024 21:11

To respond to your original question OP, no I have never felt like this. Partly because my husband pulls his weight but partly also because I refuse to take on more than my share. I think often it’s the martyr that facilitates this type of situation and then has a breakdown which in reality is entirely avoidable.

I know women who are extremely busy in high pressure roles that complain, but then they never change anything and I think that they secretly like being super important, needed and busy. Are you one of these people? If you aren’t, you clearly need to just make life changes and stop facilitating your husbands laziness. You are setting a bad example for your children by working yourself into the ground and being miserable. Would you want them to take after you and do the same? Be an example and change things so your husband gets shit done, earns more and you can scale back. Or just survive on less money. Many do, and we all know money doesn’t buy happiness.

Canttakethepressureanymore · 26/08/2024 21:10

shockeditellyou · 26/08/2024 21:07

Start by losing your absolute fucking shit at your “D”H. Why are you not absolutely furious at this situation?

I'm getting furious at his lack of care for how it's making me feel. I'm not sure if I'm being unreasonable in wanting him to step up a little and get some ambition. I've only really just realised that my salary has been allowing him to coast along. If I weren't there, he'd need to pull his finger out! But he is happy so have always taken the view that it's better if one of us is!

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shockeditellyou · 26/08/2024 21:07

Start by losing your absolute fucking shit at your “D”H. Why are you not absolutely furious at this situation?

NoahsTortoise · 26/08/2024 21:06

I understand OP. I am the main earner too, although my job is not as stressful as yours sounds. My DP has been at his job for nearly 20 years but it's not good money.

I have found the pressure and logistics difficult since getting pregnant and having my child. I think I hadn't really realised how hard it is to financially manage maternity leave and early years of children when you're the main earner but also the mother.

I didn't want to take a short maternity leave as I'd been looking forward to it my whole life and desperately wanted that time with my baby. And so I drained a lot of my savings to afford a year off. And now the logistics of hoping to have a dc2...I don't have the same available money to save up like I used to so it's really difficult. We also need to move for more space ideally but couldn't move before a DC2 as I couldn't pay a higher mortgage on maternity leave. The current one will be challenge enough.

It's a lot of pressure to have on your shoulders and I do find myself feeling really envious towards friends who are able to have that more traditional set up of the man earning more/the same so that they can be supported during these difficult years, even just through maternity leave.

Canttakethepressureanymore · 26/08/2024 21:04

AreYouBrandNew · 26/08/2024 20:59

agree. What is he doing in his ‘owl’ hours? What are all these busy things he’s doing that you don’t need done?

Chilling out I guess! I wouldn't know, as I'm asleep!

He does the cooking, the finances and 50% of pick-up/drop offs.

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BirthdayRainbow · 26/08/2024 21:03

You can't take medication to get through a job when your h could step up and do more. Not help more. Do more.

Redlettuce · 26/08/2024 21:00

Before you completely burn out ...

  • Get some blood tests - you might actually be ill if you feel this rough
  • Stop bf as this will be draining your energy
  • Get sleep training sorted
  • Stop worrying what work thinks - you're at risk of burning out anyway. Consider getting signed off for a couple of weeks. It's better than completely burning out
  • Step back and rethink your finances. What about moving somewhere cheaper so you can have a reset? What about going interest only or increasing mortgage term to give you some options? What about a lifestyle rethink so you can have more choice?
  • You don't have to keep moving upwards. It’s fine to step sideways and go part time for a bit. Talk to some recruitment consultants or a career coach
AreYouBrandNew · 26/08/2024 20:59

Businessflake · 26/08/2024 20:57

Not sure why having a useless husband qualifies you as sick. Get him to pull his weight so you can make more time for yourself.

agree. What is he doing in his ‘owl’ hours? What are all these busy things he’s doing that you don’t need done?

Businessflake · 26/08/2024 20:57

Canttakethepressureanymore · 26/08/2024 20:33

Yes that is correct but it has been that way for a long time - largely based on the fact that I'm a natural lark. Of course, this ignores the fact that nothing needs doing during his 'owl' hours.

I am so reluctant to go off sick by having not that long returned from mat leave (about 4 months ago) but it may have to be that way....I think I would get a few months on full pay.

Not sure why having a useless husband qualifies you as sick. Get him to pull his weight so you can make more time for yourself.

Canttakethepressureanymore · 26/08/2024 20:57

Businessflake · 26/08/2024 20:55

Why on earth are you pumping for an 11 month old? Feed them at night and get them in formula or cows milk the rest of the time. Why are you making life so hard for yourself?

And I really don’t understand why you had more than one child with someone who is so useless at helping to parent them. Go away for a few days and leave him to it. They will all survive and learn to cope without you. Problem solved.

I couldn't feed DC1 and have supply paranoia...and a massive stash of breast milk!

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Ted22 · 26/08/2024 20:57

It might help to focus on the plus sides of being the higher earner as well - of which there are many. You will never be stuck with any man. It will always be 100% your choice to be in the marriage, which is very freeing. It will become a lot easier as the children get older as well. But DH needs to pull his weight.

Canttakethepressureanymore · 26/08/2024 20:56

pinksquash13 · 26/08/2024 20:52

I'm sorry OP. Sounds really difficult. The only thing I'd say is, I'd be surprised anyone with a BF 11 month old and just back to work FT would be finding it easy. I know you've done it before but returning to work after mat leave is just an incredibly hard adjustment imo, and especially if you're up in the night. I wonder, even if nothing changed, if you'd feel differently in a year's time. What do you think?

Honestly, I just want to feel like the option is there for me to step back a little and him to push forward. I'm not going to throw away the career I've worked for but I would like a little flex to tailor it a little and take my foot off the peddle.

I don't actually find babies too difficult. I feel this more now as older children are more complex - you need to think of strategies to deal with things and have the space to talk to them. Their problems only get bigger.

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DrinkElephants · 26/08/2024 20:55

I know you say flexible working and dropping a day isn’t an option but have you at least requested it? To see what your options are?

I only say this because my dad was a partner working all hours and my mum essentially said it was divorce or he goes part time.

My dad had said for years part time wasn’t an option as no one else did it and was worried about his job etc. but he requested, the other partners accepted it and interestingly another partner went part time shortly after too!

Best thing my dad did, he’s just retired now at 59 after a very successful career.

Businessflake · 26/08/2024 20:55

Canttakethepressureanymore · 26/08/2024 20:05

I totally agree, I am aware that I'm already resentful.

I have a bf 11 month old and also pumping at work.... My older DC won't sleep without me either though.

Why on earth are you pumping for an 11 month old? Feed them at night and get them in formula or cows milk the rest of the time. Why are you making life so hard for yourself?

And I really don’t understand why you had more than one child with someone who is so useless at helping to parent them. Go away for a few days and leave him to it. They will all survive and learn to cope without you. Problem solved.

Ted22 · 26/08/2024 20:54

OP I totally get you. My family is a similar setup -I am the higher earner x 4, my DH does a low paid job with fewer hours. My job is high stress, lots of overtime etc. You can make it work. The number one thing is preventing burnout. It’s so easy to go past the point of no return, and that’s very difficult to come back from. So you need to prevent burnout - take days of A/L to yourself if possible. Have five hours every weekend where DH has the kids, and you get to sit in a cafe with a book. Whatever works for you. You are the main earner here, and he actually needs to put some respect on that.

I always think about 30-50 years ago, when men were usually the main earner, and they got to fuck off to golf or football or the pub all weekend to decompress. Somehow women have taken on the role of main earner, without any of the respect or consideration that comes with it. If you burn out, the whole family fails. DH needs to understand that.

Secondly - he needs to be doing more than 50% of the chores and childrearing. He just does.

Thirdly, is there any way you can move your role into a fully WFH industry? While my job is stressful/long hours, it is WFH which helps me manage my stress a lot (can take an hour for a dog walk or the gym if needed).

Pussycat22 · 26/08/2024 20:53

Canttakethepressureanymore · 26/08/2024 20:05

I totally agree, I am aware that I'm already resentful.

I have a bf 11 month old and also pumping at work.... My older DC won't sleep without me either though.

Canttakethepressureanymore ,it seems he doesn't function at all, it's a good job the breathing is built in or you would be doing that as well. Please sort something out or you are going to be very very ill. See a therapist because you are not equipped to deal with this on your own. X

Canttakethepressureanymore · 26/08/2024 20:52

Glowygoose · 26/08/2024 20:43

I am NOT a 1950s housewife by any means. I work in a professional job (albeit part time) and I am all for women having careers and earning top buck. Now that being said..

WTF IS UP WITH THESE BETA/PASSIVE MEN?!?!!

I honestly don't get it. No pride in providing for their families. No pride in instead of being the earner, being domesticated and primary parent. Not even trying to be 50/50.

Living in women's houses, earning the minimum they can get away with, not pulling their full weight with the kids. Scrolling on their phones on the sofa whilst their wives scurry around them, burnt out.

Do you have to fuck yourself too? (Tongue in cheek)

Honestly my DP isn't perfect or misogynistic by any means but he would rather be out on the streets shovelling shit on top of his full-time job than have have me working myself into the ground, being primary breadwinner and doing the default childcare.
Where is the shame?!!

He is not a teenage boy and your are everyone's mum including his. He's a MAN. An actual man.

To be honest if he doesn't have that 'pride' within himself to take care of you and his family then he never will. It's an innate sense of responsibility for your family that some men just don't have. A lot more of them don't these days unfortunately.

I would honestly plan your future with the mindset that he won't change. But that doesn't mean your situation won't.

You could either split up which would get rid of the resentment side of things and you'd know it was down to you so be easier.

Or

You could downsize your house. Sell up and move somewhere a lot cheaper even if it's not as nice. Or extend your mortgage. Have lower mortgage payments so you can reduce your hours.

See if you can condense your hours to 4 days.

You need to pretend your paycheck was going to be half in 6 months time and plan accordingly. You'll be surprised what you come up with when your backs against the wall.

I wish you love and success and appreciation.

But you seriously do need to think about who your sharing a bed with. The person your with doesn't allow you to be vulnerable. You have to be strong all the time. It's not healthy.

Haha!

Yes, it is absolutely terrible to say it - I don't want to be at home full time - but I want him to step up! Never, ever has he done anything to 'look after' me. Never even bought me a gift not chosen by me. Sometimes I just want to be looked after in some small way and I'd like him to have some ambition to provide for his family, like I do.

I know quite a few women in my position and, interestingly, he had a very career orientated mother.

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pinksquash13 · 26/08/2024 20:52

I'm sorry OP. Sounds really difficult. The only thing I'd say is, I'd be surprised anyone with a BF 11 month old and just back to work FT would be finding it easy. I know you've done it before but returning to work after mat leave is just an incredibly hard adjustment imo, and especially if you're up in the night. I wonder, even if nothing changed, if you'd feel differently in a year's time. What do you think?

GingerPirate · 26/08/2024 20:48

Glowygoose · 26/08/2024 20:43

I am NOT a 1950s housewife by any means. I work in a professional job (albeit part time) and I am all for women having careers and earning top buck. Now that being said..

WTF IS UP WITH THESE BETA/PASSIVE MEN?!?!!

I honestly don't get it. No pride in providing for their families. No pride in instead of being the earner, being domesticated and primary parent. Not even trying to be 50/50.

Living in women's houses, earning the minimum they can get away with, not pulling their full weight with the kids. Scrolling on their phones on the sofa whilst their wives scurry around them, burnt out.

Do you have to fuck yourself too? (Tongue in cheek)

Honestly my DP isn't perfect or misogynistic by any means but he would rather be out on the streets shovelling shit on top of his full-time job than have have me working myself into the ground, being primary breadwinner and doing the default childcare.
Where is the shame?!!

He is not a teenage boy and your are everyone's mum including his. He's a MAN. An actual man.

To be honest if he doesn't have that 'pride' within himself to take care of you and his family then he never will. It's an innate sense of responsibility for your family that some men just don't have. A lot more of them don't these days unfortunately.

I would honestly plan your future with the mindset that he won't change. But that doesn't mean your situation won't.

You could either split up which would get rid of the resentment side of things and you'd know it was down to you so be easier.

Or

You could downsize your house. Sell up and move somewhere a lot cheaper even if it's not as nice. Or extend your mortgage. Have lower mortgage payments so you can reduce your hours.

See if you can condense your hours to 4 days.

You need to pretend your paycheck was going to be half in 6 months time and plan accordingly. You'll be surprised what you come up with when your backs against the wall.

I wish you love and success and appreciation.

But you seriously do need to think about who your sharing a bed with. The person your with doesn't allow you to be vulnerable. You have to be strong all the time. It's not healthy.

Wow.
Couldn't say it better!
👏

stillavid · 26/08/2024 20:47

Why is it that men get to just not wake up or cope with lack of sleep??

I was the one in my marriage who earned less and worked part time so I picked up more of the domestic load because that was fair.

I would have a serious conversation with your DH about equality in your relationship.

My DC are all late teens now and it is interesting to see when we (my friends) are at a point when we can easily choose to leave our husbands how easy it is for those whose DH's were just dicks earlier on.

GingerPirate · 26/08/2024 20:46

Reading all this stuff, I'd say better off without the
DH.
But that's just me.

Puffykins · 26/08/2024 20:46

I totally empathise - and have been where you are - or at least next door. First of all, this is not indefinite: your children will get older and sleep better. In the interim though it sounds like you urgently need sleep - and some time out at the weekend doing something that gives you a holiday from your thoughts - whether that is going to the cinema or reading a book or whatever it is that you know will bring you momentary peace.

Secondly, if you hate your job - and I find having small children can crystallise certain feelings - start researching a way out. A plan might help you feel more in control. Also, again, sleep.

My DCs are now older and I've found a better balance - ie I promise the situation can improve.

Glitterglitch · 26/08/2024 20:46

If it’s the job you need to weigh up the change in lifestyle if you were to change your job/reduce your earnings.