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AIBU to be suspicious?

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AIBU2bjealous · 26/08/2024 14:43

Posted yesterday about DH and a female friend. Maybe she made a pass, maybe not. I don’t really have any reason not to trust DH, but she seems a bit keen on him and it makes me uncomfortable. After not seeing each other for a while, DH told me they’d made plans for this week. I asked what they would be doing today and he told me: she’d invited him over to her house as her DH is away. He’s to come over after dinner when her DC are sleeping.

is my DH completely oblivious? Is this a bit odd? I have male friends who are platonic but I wouldn’t invite them to mine in this circumstance without their partner or children! AIBU to find this odd?

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Blubbled · 03/09/2024 12:22

No @Soretoothfairy , it's not "some sort of religious thing", (which is a bit of a sly dig at people who have a religious faith), it's out of respect for my friend, his wife and their marriage. Why, have you a problem with that?

AIBU2bjealous · 30/08/2024 19:05

Just a few hours. Plenty of time for something to happen obviously but nothing seemed especially off when he got in.

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Idontjetwashthefucker · 30/08/2024 18:54

How long was he there?

AIBU2bjealous · 30/08/2024 18:50

@SleepwalkingInTesco infortunately not, they are old friends from uni so no friends in common.

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SleepwalkingInTesco · 30/08/2024 18:32

Do you have any mutual friends you could discuss this with? Because this is an obvious wtf move on DH and friend's parts and talking about it with the wider group would probably help if you feel you're being manipulated into thinking it's normal

AIBU2bjealous · 30/08/2024 17:40

Thank you for all of the advice and support. DH did go to his friend’s house. I mulled it over and felt I couldn’t control him in that way, although it does make me uncomfortable and doesn’t quite sit right. I’m working out how to approach it with him. I don’t want to be accusatory but I do believe I have the right to feel comfortable and this friend is acting in an odd way.

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Greategret · 29/08/2024 02:17

I wouldn't be happy about this situation. Your husband is being deliberately obtuse. My husband used to work overseas a lot - he'd fly in for a meeting and he might go out to dinner with a workmate who'd also flown in for the meeting. I was fine about him going out to dinner in a strange city with a colleague he knew and occasionally it was a female colleague. I think this though is completely different with your husband basically saying he can go on a date with an old friend who appears to act in an over-friendly way with him in front of his wife and has invited him over to dinner to her house when her children are asleep and her husband is away. Meanwhile he leaves his own wife alone with their sleeping children.

Most men invited over to a woman's place for dinner when her husband is away and her children are asleep would be thinking of this as an invitation for sex especially if she has been making eyes at him and acting keen. Your husband must know this.

There is a line about what is acceptable to have behaviour in marriage. It doesn't mean that you can't have friends of the opposite gender or whatever. It does mean though that you can't date friends of the opposite gender and expext your spouse to be "cool" about it. In fact, this looks exactly like cheating in plain sight. Incidentally, if she makes advances to married men, she is by no means perfect.

MsDogLady · 28/08/2024 19:05

For someone ‘oblivious’, there certainly have been some intentional behavior changes. And they began that night.

Please don’t sell yourself short, @AIBU2bjealous. You are a fantastic woman in your own right who chooses to give abundantly to your H and young children, and that should engender his love, respect, interest, and a sexy spark. As for OW, it may appear that she is a perfect woman living a golden life, but she is diminishing herself (and disrespecting you and her H) by making goo-goo eyes and drooling over her married friend. Something is amiss…

How are you going to approach this?

NPET · 27/08/2024 11:53

Surely the most important (only important?) thing here is the way YOU feel and he should be concerned about this AND NOTHING ELSE!

CharlieUniformNovemberTangoYankee · 27/08/2024 08:29

You think she fancies him. You're not normally controlling (I'm assuming) but you feel insecure and uncomfortable for a number of reasons. He may not be intent on an affair or even a one-off shag, but you can see how it might happen. And if it's going to, it will, but you don't have to passively facilitate it.

Tell him, clearly and calmly, how you feel and ask him to take a step back from the friendship. You deserve that level of understanding, loyalty and reassurance from your husband. It's not unreasonable at all.

LeontineFrance · 27/08/2024 08:05

It crosses a line and is the biggest elephant in the room. Why all the negotiating? She is trouble and there are so many red flags blowing to shreds in a hurricane. Stop it now and say No! No! and thrice No!

Bestyearever2024 · 27/08/2024 07:18

I mean if he were up to something why would he be so blatant about it?

Hiding the affair in plain sight?

It does happen

Ask him not to go.

See his reaction .....surely if you're uneasy about it, he puts your feelings first and doesn't go?

Shibr · 27/08/2024 07:12

This is difficult. I have a few close male friends. I would go over to theirs on my own when their children were in bed and we’d have dinner and generally catch up. Our partners are completely fine with it and there is definitely no attraction on either of our parts.

If this isn’t a regular occurrence and you are obviously not happy about it, then I think your husband shouldn’t go if you going to be really upset about it. Can he meet up with her another time? What sort of times and locations would you be happy with? Are you worried he is going to cheat as if he is, there’s not really anything you can do about it. You can’t spend your life worrying, setting curfews, etc., it will drive you made and create a wedge between you.

HoppingPavlova · 27/08/2024 07:09

I have had male friends over for specific reasons, however I’ve tended to organise with the wife. DH’s last job had an on-site on call component where if there was an emergency, they had rest area provisions for coverage*. Examples such as DH going to assemble a display case over weekend ready for pre-arranged tradesperson to fix to wall on the Monday, he would be called in and wouldn’t know if he would be back before tradesperson came etc. It was often Murphy’s Law. So, I’d contact the wife, ask if I could ‘borrow’ their DH to do it, as I didn’t want to ask and ruin any plans they may have had that the DH had been unaware of. Then if confirmed they had nothing on or she didn’t need him for a job herself, I’d contact my male friend directly to ask. Never an issue, and avoided any resentment of some’s DH being at mine doing something if their wife had to have two different kids in two different places at that time or whatnot.

*For those thinking I was conned by a DH up to no good, it never happened in any job prior or since, and when it did happen there was always a mahoosive lift in his pay that month, so no reason to believe was not genuine.

AIBU2bjealous · 27/08/2024 06:54

@Soretoothfairy this is exactly how DH feels. He doesn’t see having opposite-sex friends as a barrier to anything and wouldn’t be offended if I went to male friend’s home after his children were in bed. He trusts me implicitly and doesn’t see any reason why I wouldn’t do the same for him. However I think he’s oblivious towards the mooning from his friend, in a way I wouldn’t be if a male friend had the same eyes for me. I just wouldn’t go because I would think it would send the wrong message. I don’t think he sees it at all, which is worrying? Or it is hiding in plain sight?

I feel insecure because her DC are older, I’m still having sleepless nights and picking weetabix out of my hair. She’s also got loads of money for nanny and household help, we don’t so I’m knackered and complaining about my aching back. Perhaps a sign I should be a bit more interesting but these are the hard years, aren’t they?

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sesquipedalian · 27/08/2024 06:40

Have you made it clear to your DH how very uncomfortable you are about this? And does her DH know that your DH will be going round in his absence? It all sounds a little….unusual. Just tell him you don’t want him to go, and that you think he should put your needs above hers - why should you be expected to spend an evening in your own just because her DH is away?

MsDogLady · 27/08/2024 05:58

The long break is indeed very telling, and @AIBU2bjealous commented in her other thread that her H wasn’t even mentioning the ‘friend’ during that time. Perhaps one or both intentionally distanced publicly because (1) they regretted what had occurred that night or (2) they decided to continue and take it underground or (3) they were seen, so needed to lie low for a while. It is also possible that they had already been involved and this was a break up.

I’m wondering who initiated the get-together with the children. It appears that the dust had settled and she felt free to project love-sick vibes toward him, and then to bring him over at night when her H is away. His agreeing to go is key, as it shows his decision to trash his physical or emotional fidelity. His being open about going is to normalize it in ‘plain sight’, as is his offering to share bedtime duties before he goes.

@AIBU2bjealous, I hope you will assert an iron-clad boundary, and can get to the bottom of his disloyalty.

HeliotropePJs · 27/08/2024 01:43

Nope. I wouldn't be happy with that. Personally, I think it's rarely ever entirely appropriate for married /committed men and women to meet up alone at night with a friend of the opposite sex. With the added backstory you supplied, I would be extremely unhappy about this proposed evening alone.

Why would this be necessary? Why can't they meet some other time, in a public place or with other people? It's incredibly disrespectful of their spouses, in my opinion.

Louise303 · 27/08/2024 01:22

AIBU2bjealous · 26/08/2024 14:56

Yes, it’s an old friend, they never had a romantic relationship but have always gotten on quite well.

briefly: we moved back to the village where they grew up, they saw each other once a month or so (sometimes with me and her DH and our kids, sometimes alone). One night he came back after being at the pub for a few and said the next day he’d had too much to drink and was stopping for a bit. (He never drinks more than one). He didn’t see her for several months until we met with our DC and she was sort of fawning over him, looking longingly, giving him compliments. I don’t know if he made a pass or she did on that other night (or if nothing happened).

I have told him I feel a bit jealous of her (she’s sort of perfect, she’s beautiful and wealthy and intelligent and glamorous) and he’s told me I have nothing to be worried about. But the way that she looks at him makes me a bit uncomfortable. And now the post-dinner invite with the husband away…it’s a bit odd, isn’t it?

Does he look at her the same way? I had something similar with my husband and a friend that grew up near him. It was weird this was someone he had a big crush for years on he asked her out and she refused. She was stunning and had a lot of admirers she looked like a model. When I met my husband we got engaged quickly and married in less than a year we were both very happy. This woman was at our engagement and acting very weird. She was flirting with my husband and every time we saw her she did the same. He thought it was odd it was like she did not want him but when she knew he was in a serious relationship she did not like it. My husband never met up with woman on his own I think she flirted to make me insecure. Your husband needs to take a step back from this woman if he values your marriage. The long period of time they were not meeting is very suspicious you need to ask him why. Either her husband was uncomfortable about them or something happened. If you live in a village could your husband have got a scare of something getting back to you.

VanLife33 · 27/08/2024 01:17

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Louise303 · 27/08/2024 00:48

I wonder why they stopped meeting for several months? I would be suspicious that something happened that occasion. There's no harm in him having a female friend but to meeting and then just stop could it have been a break up. He is not stupid he obviously notices her fawning over him and so would her husband. Then to invite him when her husband is away may be strange maybe the husband is not comfortable about it either if he knows. Could you spring it on him that you got a babysitter see his reaction.

Thevelvelletes · 27/08/2024 00:38

marmiteandminticecream · 26/08/2024 17:32

i'd phone her and ask why have i not been invited just to put her on the spot but i'm not a cool wife so i'll probably get flamed for that
and as for your husband he knows she fancies him and he 's enjoying the attention

They're blatantly taking the piss out of you op.
Big deal he's helping put the kids to bed before going out,fuck me they're his kids as well.
And you're meant to be happy smiley as he goes off on his date.i wonder what her dh thinks of the situation.

Sickdissapointed · 27/08/2024 00:28

I would step right in here. Call her and say you’re sorry her husband is away. Come round with children for early supper.
How lovely.

XChrome · 27/08/2024 00:23

Soretoothfairy · 26/08/2024 17:12

Personally I’ve no issue with this, I don’t differentiate between male and female friends. I trust my husband and know full well if he or any other man is going to cheat, than trying to ban him from going out or seeing women or having stringent rules isn’t going to stop him. Likely the opposite,

I do find it sad so many women think their husbands will cheat on them given the opportunity so would object to this scenario, like if it would stop cheating or something ridiculous, and quite frankly who the hell cheats with their kids in the house.

you do need to address your jealousy issues, is it just this woman or do you get jealous of other women routinely?jealosy often indicates something you’re unhappy with in your own life.

This is so naive. Tons of people cheat with their kids in the house. They even cheat with their spouses in the house. They get an extra thrill from the risk.

"I do find it sad so many women think their husbands will cheat on them given the opportunity"

This is just about facing reality. Lots of men cheat. If you prefer to live in a fantasy that your husband is so special he's immune, have at it, but please don't tell other women that observing dodgy male behaviour is about the woman being irrationally jealous and it's all in her head. That's gaslighting.

pizzaHeart · 27/08/2024 00:23

ginasevern · 26/08/2024 15:43

No, this wouldn't happen in my marriage or in anyone else's that I know and we are all "normal", well adjusted people. On what planet does a married man go for a cosy dinner for 2 at another woman's house and think his wife will send him on his way with a Pollyana smile? Personally I'd tell him to stay there because he obviously wants to get inside her knickers and he also feels her invitation trumps your discomfort.

This^ 100%

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