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To think I’m going to have to give up work

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itfeelsstupid · 26/08/2024 07:34

Because I can’t cope.

I can’t manage a demanding job (albeit 3 days a week but with a lot of ‘extra’ work) and two demanding children and no other support.

I might just be feeling overwhelmed but I am already thinking this isn’t going to be possible. It’s taking hours to settle children at night then I have the ‘night shift’ to do early starts and I can’t do it 😭

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YellowphantGrey · 27/08/2024 19:06

Lelophants · 27/08/2024 19:00

I just find it depressing that the op isn’t allowed to give up paid work for a bit even if it’s the best option for her.

The OP doesn't seem to be able to do a lot other than whine at everyone else.

She doesn't want advice, she wants an echo chamber because she is refusing to share information where people could actually offer productive advice such as what exactly are you struggling with and could your Husband help and she replies with "he has a long commute"

Then everyone is accused of being nosey and she is sat there, scratching her head because she can't understand why people think her husband doesn't nothing AFTER saying in her OP she has no support at all.

But you know, everyone else is in the wrong.

RoachFish · 27/08/2024 19:04

Lelophants · 27/08/2024 19:00

I just find it depressing that the op isn’t allowed to give up paid work for a bit even if it’s the best option for her.

Nobody here is not allowing it. They can’t afford it.

YellowphantGrey · 27/08/2024 19:03

itfeelsstupid · 27/08/2024 00:56

Not once have I said he shouldn’t lift a finger. Not once. It’s really weird how posters keep insisting I have said this when I haven’t, I genuinely find this really, really odd.

The him no lifting finger has come from you literally saying you have no support and do everything alone.

If you read that, would you assume the people in the relationship do an equal share.

And before you starting whining again about how he has a very long commute, I mean an equal share in proportion to hours worked.

Lelophants · 27/08/2024 19:00

I just find it depressing that the op isn’t allowed to give up paid work for a bit even if it’s the best option for her.

YellowphantGrey · 27/08/2024 18:59

itfeelsstupid · 27/08/2024 17:05

At no point have I said ‘he does nothing at home.’

I will snipe when people make up nonsense (which is the politest way I can put it) and then use their own lies to berate me with; I think that is reasonable to become as you put it ‘snippy’ then.

There is a huge difference between ‘DH has a long commute which means he leaves at 7 and doesn’t get home until after around 730, so I’m on my own with no support’ and ‘DH does nothing when he is at home.’ I have said the first of the two. At no point have I said the second.

OK. So at the risk of repeating myself for what feels like the hundredth time, what does he do when he gets home?

And what could he do that helps you?

Then once you've worked that out, maybe have the conversation with him.

Crazy idea, I know.

Lelophants · 27/08/2024 18:58

DeclutteringNewbie · 27/08/2024 09:26

Well, I stopped feeding my DC myself at a year, so past that point no default parent.

Ok and that’s great that worked for you. Your kids will see you as the primary caregiver though. And what about when you breastfeed for longer? It’s ok to admit women CAN have a bigger role in this and should be allowed to do that.

121gigawatts · 27/08/2024 18:56

I am shocked by this thread to be honest. I commented quite early in and to come back and see pages of the same type of comments was an eye opener. I hope things improve for you @itfeelsstupidxx

arethereanyleftatall · 27/08/2024 18:54

To answer your latest and newest question -

It will be utterly shit and miserable but ultimately doable unless you evenly share the load with both parents in which case it will be better.

TheKeatingFive · 27/08/2024 18:53

itfeelsstupid · 27/08/2024 18:40

@TheKeatingFive theres a gulf if you’re reading it at absolute literal face value.

If one of my year 13 students came to me in tears saying ‘there’s no point to me applying to university, I’m going to fail anyway, I am so stupid’ would you think I’d take that at face value, or would I realise she’s expressing her fears and insecurities and reassure her?

You don’t name change (and good on you for that) so I do ‘know’ your name and I know you’re not stupid and you’re not given to provoking on purpose but it is starting to feel a little like a goad now given how many times I’ve said I was being daft and having a moment.

Well I'm not sure your analogy works because in your opening post, what you describe does sound difficult and require rethinking/significant planning if it's going to work.

However, for whatever reason you dont want this kind of input. I'll bow out. I hope it works out.

itfeelsstupid · 27/08/2024 18:47

I can’t go down to two days for now: timetables are drawn. I’ll see how this year goes and then revisit but Dc1 will be at school next year so that’s going to help.

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itfeelsstupid · 27/08/2024 18:46

So here’s some selective posts if we’re doing that

*I might just be feeling overwhelmed’ (from the OP, given that you’ve quoted that.)

anyway - just felt a bit stressed. It’ll be OK, it will have to be (that was two hours after posting; some twenty four later we are still insisting that I am beheld to my OP!)

Like I say we’ll be OK. I have been ‘off’ for a year so have to get back into the swing of things

It probably won’t be as bad as I am anticipating

I had a really bad night - bad week really - of sleep and feeling daft and tearful

Things will sort themselves out; they have to

Giving up work isn’t a good idea and it’s not what I actually want

I mean - does that sound like I’m wailing in despair and not coping, or does it sound like I’m prepared for challenges but also prepared to deal with them? Does it sound like I’m still panicking or does it sound like I’m reasonably calm? I don’t doubt it’s a challenge but really the last week of the summer holidays is always a bit stressful and more so after a years maternity and no sleep!

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Gettingbysomehow · 27/08/2024 18:46

Can you go down to 2 days? Then you can keep your career. That one day will make a huge difference.
Or go full time and get a nanny.
Children that age are a real handful. I worked full time with one child as a single mum and often considered going onto benefits. I didn't in the end but it was tempting.

itfeelsstupid · 27/08/2024 18:40

@TheKeatingFive theres a gulf if you’re reading it at absolute literal face value.

If one of my year 13 students came to me in tears saying ‘there’s no point to me applying to university, I’m going to fail anyway, I am so stupid’ would you think I’d take that at face value, or would I realise she’s expressing her fears and insecurities and reassure her?

You don’t name change (and good on you for that) so I do ‘know’ your name and I know you’re not stupid and you’re not given to provoking on purpose but it is starting to feel a little like a goad now given how many times I’ve said I was being daft and having a moment.

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FancyBiscuitsLevel · 27/08/2024 18:38

There’s few actually helpful hints as well for OP.

OK another one - what time will you be picking dcs up from childcare and will they have had their dinner already? If you can get an extra half hour at work before you collect them and they have already eaten, it will make evenings much easier. It might be worth looking at childminders who can be a bit more flexible about pick up times and more likely to do a proper meal in the evening over other childcare. Particularly if you can find one who does the school run to the primary you hope to send dc1 to next year, will be much easier if both dcs are in the same setting once dc1 is at school.

MangshorJhol · 27/08/2024 18:20

Exactly you are not back at work and the opening line of your post was ‘because I can’t cope.’ You then followed up by saying you were ‘feeling overwhelmed and unhappy.’ It’s likely going to be harder when you are at work as you rightly pointed out. What am I missing here?!

TheKeatingFive · 27/08/2024 18:16

itfeelsstupid · 27/08/2024 18:09

@TheKeatingFive as I’ve said so many times now Sad advice isn’t necessarily what I’m about. A bit of reassurance and reminder it’s all doable is grand. I don’t think I’m the only person who’s felt a bit daunted at the thought of a return to work after a year away!

Well this is your actual opening gambit ...

Because I can’t cope.

I can’t manage a demanding job (albeit 3 days a week but with a lot of ‘extra’ work) and two demanding children and no other support.

So okay - it's doable. Job done? All good now?

Because I'm seeing quite the gulf between these two positions personally.

itfeelsstupid · 27/08/2024 18:15

I’m not at breaking point @MangshorJhol ! I haven’t even gone back yet 😂

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Shinyandnew1 · 27/08/2024 18:15

itfeelsstupid · 27/08/2024 18:09

@TheKeatingFive as I’ve said so many times now Sad advice isn’t necessarily what I’m about. A bit of reassurance and reminder it’s all doable is grand. I don’t think I’m the only person who’s felt a bit daunted at the thought of a return to work after a year away!

Indeed-if you’re a bit daunted, but will probably be ok-that’s fine.

If you are genuinely thinking you can’t do this, try answering some of the questions teachers have asked though-you might get some actual useful answers. Are you primary/secondary? Job share? Could you afford to drop to 2 days rather than leave completely? Are you SLT or leading any subjects? What takes you the most time after work? What causes you the most stress?

MangshorJhol · 27/08/2024 18:11

But you can’t do it! That’s the point. You are at breaking point.
That doesn’t mean you are a failure or your DH is an asshole. It just means something needs to change. And you need to figure out what.

As I said, if all you wanted was people to be a cheerleader and not offer actual solutions (which whether you like it or not will involve your other half) then you should have simply said, I am not looking for advice, just to be told I can do it. But yesterday you were contemplating quitting your career so many people rightly assumed that you needed something more than just a pat on the back.

violetsparkle · 27/08/2024 18:10

itfeelsstupid · 27/08/2024 18:09

@TheKeatingFive as I’ve said so many times now Sad advice isn’t necessarily what I’m about. A bit of reassurance and reminder it’s all doable is grand. I don’t think I’m the only person who’s felt a bit daunted at the thought of a return to work after a year away!

It's doable if you work out how it's doable otherwise it's not

itfeelsstupid · 27/08/2024 18:09

@TheKeatingFive as I’ve said so many times now Sad advice isn’t necessarily what I’m about. A bit of reassurance and reminder it’s all doable is grand. I don’t think I’m the only person who’s felt a bit daunted at the thought of a return to work after a year away!

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TheKeatingFive · 27/08/2024 18:07

itfeelsstupid · 27/08/2024 17:21

Sorry, am I on trial at the stand?

Of course not, but how can anyone give advice about how to manage your load when you won't say what your DH is doing presently?

itfeelsstupid · 27/08/2024 17:57

I think the reason the thread isn’t going anywhere is because rather than ‘don’t be so daft, of course you can do it!’ it’s become an assault on DH, who has done absolutely nothing wrong. It’s stupid as he doesn’t care but it’s still horrible seeing someone you love and is very good and does so much for his family painted in a horrible light. I’d probably feel the same if anyone was saying unpleasant things about my parents / you just feel like you have to defend them.

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MangshorJhol · 27/08/2024 17:34

Not every single detail of my life has to apply to you. But just like in threads where someoen says my baby doesn't sleep and people list out solutions, I was listing out the cadence of our day to make two points. One a more philosophical one about distribution of labour and the unseen load that goes into parenting with two working parents and two small children.

The other was a more practical point about both parents 'working' the same amount whether that's paid work or family work. But the idea practically was to show you in a way that perhaps might demonstrate to you how other people do it, that what works practically is often both really relentless planning and discipline, and genuine equity on a day in and day out basis.

It doesn't mean btw that I wasn't tired when my first born woke up every 90 mins through the night. But I didn't feel alone, and didn't feel like his sleep was my problem alone to solve.

And there is a gap between your DH being a 'lazy bastard' as you put it and doing what the vast majority of men do which is leave the emotional and mental labour to their wives, and end up with far more 'off time' and 'leisure time' than their spouses. How you achieve equity in this is up to you or maybe you decide that it's fine not have equity. But at least you should know why it is you are at breaking point while as far as we know your husband isn't.

WhoopsyDaisySugar · 27/08/2024 17:30

This thread isn’t getting anywhere. PP are constantly repeating themselves and we’re going round in circles.

You are not on trial.
You’re perfectly entitled to have a rant because you’re stressed, but you shouldn’t be getting upset when PP ask you what your DH does to assist with childcare and household tasks, in order to share the load.

Question: What does DH do for the family when he is at home?

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