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KEvLA · 26/08/2024 03:01

Let me introduce myself.
I have a 9m old DS, 3 year old DD and a 5yr old DS. I have a lovely relationship with my inlaws.
My SIL had an 8yr old DS, a 5yr old DS- and a 2yr old. My kids have an absolutely beautiful relationship with their cousins - specially my 5yr DS - he sees them as best friends and can't wait to see them whenever we meet up and we all have a fab time. He doesn't stop talking about my husband's family, even living so far away lol
My PIL have a house abroad, it's been theirs since the 90s so all their second home.

My SIL declared a friend's holiday family this year rather than the usual family one ( booked early for August, which suited us brilliant as my family lived abroad in another country so we were going to look at all inclusive.
Wow the prices! My husband was gutted that there wasn't going to be a holiday abroad, to which I replied - next year we'll go when we have more money. I'm desperate to see my auntie and also equally as gutted too.

So my husband was determined to go for a holiday abroad and even though it was booked out for the summer, early September was available and my kids (their second home abroad) would still be excited as hell as they have a pool which is purely theirs to use for a whole week!
I randomly see that my FIL is in my SIL Facebook photos.. to which I was like, ok he's the sort of impulsive person who'd pop over for the weekend. I thought we could maybe ask him to the same with us too. THEN I find out both my PIL are there (this is their house and they have a little house at the bottom)
On a usual family holiday the kids are up and down to see them whenever they want and they come up for tea time and drinks with us all

So on finding this out I went ape shit - my children live 300m away from their grandparents so it was always lovely for them to spend a few days/week or so with their grandparents ( they make little effort at home) but when. They're there, wow they're fantastic!! I'm in awe.
Their other grandchildren live 15m down the road so see them whenever they want, totally normal as this is one of those child/parent close relationship).
They brush it off when we asked about it as my SIL had said - friend holiday.
They turn on my husband telling him he's unjustified by taking about it, and told him he was guilt tripping them about it. I'm livid for him when he basically said that this was "his life". Never seen it so evidently, wow.
So they're there having a mini family holiday to which my Husband was told by his BIL
They don't really come up but I saw that - they go up for drinks and food - as the do on a usual family holiday SMH.
They had a cancellation so they went early - my MIL said this.

Mother mode - *My children who adore and don't see their Grandparents a lot but, as I said - brilliant hands affectionate - they all snuggle up with eachother in the morning 💞.
They don't have any summer holiday abroad, even 2 days!! They're friends kid even does SMh. with them. They're all over there on their mini family holiday, justifying it all turned on my husband and my kids who live 300m away - perfect opportunity to spend time with their grandparents are not included, however last minute the flight was and however much they try to justify it.

I AM NOT EXAGGERATING WHEN I SAY I AM LIVID!

I've written this on here because it's eating me up and it's festering me inside I don't want to put all this on my husband when he's also feeling gutted. We all know that children talk and this will inevitably be brought up (same with another instance).

AIBU?

As we know us women go into lioness mode and our children are our world and I'll do anything to protect their feelings. My son is so intelligent , he'll be confused, upset or who knows?
I understand this is IF it's brought up by his cousin as I certainly won't!

OP posts:
Moveoverdarlin · 26/08/2024 17:29

For anyone that finds it confusing, I think I’ve just about got the gist. A woman went on holiday with her family to HER parents holiday home. Her mum and dad went too, given that they own the property. Nightmare sister in-law has kicked off because she wasn’t invited.

In my experience the daughters will ALWAYS trump daughter in laws.

Quitelikeit · 26/08/2024 17:22

So they rented their place out for the summer and it was to your SiLs friend.

SiL has joined said friend and the grandparents have gone because they have a little annex down the hill

Im sorry but they are allowed to do that. You feel hard done by but really it’s up to them as it’s their property

TulipCat · 26/08/2024 17:22

This is all rather bizarre (assuming I have understood it in the first place).

Ohthatsabitshit · 26/08/2024 17:15

SIL said she and her family and some friends were going to holiday together this year rather than going with OPs family. OP and her family couldn’t really afford it but have managed to scrape together enough to go later in the year.
OP is upset because she didn’t realise her PIL were going to be in the other house (two house holiday home) and would see SIL and family while they were there.
OP feels her son will be sad to have missed SIL/cousins holiday and that they weren’t transparent about their holiday plans. OP feels furious.

I don’t think anyone has done anything wrong.

CustardySergeant · 26/08/2024 17:07

"My SIL declared a friend's holiday family this year rather than the usual family one"

I can't work out what that means.

Sorenlorrenson · 26/08/2024 16:38

What?
What's "friend holiday" ?
What is your problem?

GeorgesMarvelousCalpol · 26/08/2024 16:31

I know the OP hasn't been back but can someone explain what the hell this is about? I haven't a clue, I can't make head nor tail of it 😵‍💫🫤

ilovebagpuss · 26/08/2024 16:28

SIL obviously told a bit of a white lie to get a holiday on her own with her parents.
Maybe she is
the golden child or maybe she just wanted a holiday with them without your family.
Yes hurtful to find out and annoying as you use it as your big family holiday,pool affordable etc.
Think you need to do your own thing a few holidays and accept that they wanted to see SIL more than your family.
Hurtful for your kids I get that but I would just leave them to it, your DH sounds like he's used to the favoritism.

Ivymom · 26/08/2024 16:18

Hopefully OP is reading, even if the posts may be difficult for her to accept. I find it concerning that the 5 yr old’s best friends are cousins that he only sees on holiday. He should have a best friend from school or the neighborhood. Someone he spends time with regularly.

I read another of OP’s posts where she is seeking help for some serious behavioral problems from the 5 yr old. This may explain why his “best friends” are children he rarely sees and cousins who are forced into the relationship with him.

I have a feeling that the cousins don’t want their vacation ruined by OP’s child. Even if the bad behaviors have been stopped, the cousins may not enjoy the relationship as much as OP’s kids.

I understand OP feels disappointed at not having the usual family holiday with her inlaws and not being able to afford to visit an all inclusive resort near her own relatives. Feeling sad that her family is missing out on time with the grandparents is reasonable. Anger, rage, fury are not.

There is something wrong in this reaction. I wonder if OP doesn’t have other instances of unreasonable anger. This might be where her DS gets his violent reactions. Therapy for OP, her DH and her DC would probably be a good idea to help them learn appropriate responses to disappointments.

Throwingpots · 26/08/2024 16:16

Would like to comment but can't make head nor tail of the original post 🤔
If you come back OP maybe try again

Gallowayan · 26/08/2024 15:57

Your post is impossible to follow.

betterangels · 26/08/2024 15:23

MildredSauce · 26/08/2024 13:16

OP has form for posting once then buggering off.

And a year ago was posting about her near 5 yo DS's bad behaviour. Unpredictable, destructive, bites, throws, hits and kicks. It renders him (in her own words) "unpunishable".

Might it be that the chaos/intensity and the dynamic OP beings means that PIL and SIL are not as content to play "happy families" as she is?

Suddenly, everything is clearer.

CalicoPusscat · 26/08/2024 13:20

I was going to say this thread is over as OP isn't returning

MildredSauce · 26/08/2024 13:16

OP has form for posting once then buggering off.

And a year ago was posting about her near 5 yo DS's bad behaviour. Unpredictable, destructive, bites, throws, hits and kicks. It renders him (in her own words) "unpunishable".

Might it be that the chaos/intensity and the dynamic OP beings means that PIL and SIL are not as content to play "happy families" as she is?

Nonononoway · 26/08/2024 11:01

I have no idea what you’re talking about. Your thread is so difficult to follow.

ourtimedownhere · 26/08/2024 10:45

Que?

SummerSplashing · 26/08/2024 10:40

ActualChips · 26/08/2024 09:35

Bit rude to call replies 'bitchy' when you then go on to write that you're unclear and confused too.
OP could have chosen to write clearly, I gave up at the first bit where a load of peoples ages were being listed.

Edited

@ActualChips

its one thing to be a bit confused it's quite another to say some of the bitchy things people posted. I don't have the time or inclination to go back through the thread to list them all for you.

i think they were bitchy, you don't, fine I'm happy to have my opinion & you have yours.

angellinaballerina7 · 26/08/2024 10:22

So, you weren’t planning to do the family holiday anyway because you wanted to see your side of the family (very reasonable)? Were you planning on banning them from doing anything together to ensure your children didn’t miss out in these circumstances too?

Your holiday hasn’t gone ahead, the rest of the world doesn’t have to come to a standstill and alter their plans for this. You still have a wonderful holiday planned at your ILs house, but I feel like if it was my house and I read this drivel, you wouldn’t be using it again!

CalicoPusscat · 26/08/2024 09:48

@TwinklyAmberOrca I can't tell if the OP is going to PIL in September or somewhere else abroad??

Litlgreyrabbit · 26/08/2024 09:47

This is your PIL’s house, not yours.

I don’t see that they have lied at all either!

As I understand it, the in-laws have been going away together as a family for the past 30+ years. Since you have been on the scene, they have invited you to join them.
This year, they decided to invite friends to join them instead. That is 100% their right, they have done nothing wrong, they do not owe you a holiday. You have no right at all to be angry.

And all the ‘lioness’ nonsense is ridiculous. If the holiday is mentioned to your son by his cousin (unlikely if they live 300miles away, presumably it will be old news by the time they meet again) just say “Darling, we can’t go with granny and grandad every year, sometimes it’s nice to have holidays separately, there are lots of ways to have holdiays”. End of!

betterangels · 26/08/2024 09:44

Gilbertwasawuss · 26/08/2024 09:24

Sounds like they didn't want to invite you, but knew you would be "livid" so they lied.

They shouldn't have lied, but you sound WAY too emotional about this.

Family members are entitled to spend time with other family members without inviting anyone... in fact it is healthy to foster individual relationships.

Yeah, this. I'm not sure I would have told you about it, either. No need for this reaction because they went on holiday. Perhaps the cousins wanted to enjoy some time with their grandparents alone. Completely normal.

It's worth thinking about whether they decided not to tell you because you would have gone 'apeshit' on them and whether you often overreact. This seems so extreme.

ActualChips · 26/08/2024 09:35

SummerSplashing · 26/08/2024 07:27

@KEvLA

im sorry you've had some bitchy replies. Mn can be great, but these days it can be very bitchy

i can understand why you are upset & livid.

your SIL cancelled out on your usual family holiday, to holiday with friends this year. Fair enough, her choice, but basically just did the usual family holiday, excluding your part of the family. (& maybe invited friends in your place?!)

Your PIL allowed this to happen though.

I'm unclear on a few things though.

when it became apparent you couldn't go to your family, why didn't you go to DH's family's second home (with PIL)?

why do you need to go 'all inclusive' to visit your family??

if you don't talk about it the 5year old won't, unless you ask specifically they won't even think about it next time they see each other.

im a tad confused if you're going away or not now, but if you do have a brilliant time & if you don't, try to enjoy a few days out we still have some nice weather coming!

Bit rude to call replies 'bitchy' when you then go on to write that you're unclear and confused too.
OP could have chosen to write clearly, I gave up at the first bit where a load of peoples ages were being listed.

SphinxOfBlackQuartz · 26/08/2024 09:25

Clearly just written to be as confusing as possible. It's tedious how posts like this pop up during the night.

HelloMiss · 26/08/2024 09:24

Please explain how you went 'APE SHIT'??

Shinyandnew1 · 26/08/2024 09:24

the OP was fine with that until she discovered that she couldn’t afford her own AI AND that her PILs were also at their holiday property, where they have a separate house on the grounds, because they’d had a cancellation (presumably the rent it out) and decided on impulse to go early?

I think this is the crux of it