For hating the new bottle tops

And thank you for yours. Your posts really are the highlights of this thread.

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I don’t think you realise that your post came across as at best patronising and at worst quite ablist.

You’re being really rude, I’ve tried to help and you’ve tried to throw insults veiled as concern. I’m out. Very unpleasant for you to try and use a ‘learning difficulty’ as an insult.

No I didn’t, I pointed out that they’re not accessible to people with arthrogrypsos. You then ignored essentially everything I wrote and decided you knew better than anyone else.

If you had used your reading comprehension skills you would be aware that someone with arthrogryposis wouldn’t be able to open the bottle, because aids do not work on the new lid types.

You clearly are. Read my previous post. People are trying to help you and you are being rude in return.

I’m not implying that anybody is stupid. You complained that you aren’t able to hold the lid back. You shouldn’t be having to do this, the lid fixes back, and I was pointing this out. You can obviously get to the point where you can’t hold the lid back, or you wouldn’t know that you can’t hold it back.

Does anyone really believe that screw caps on the bottle are the answer to fixing the issues with the environment? It’s not even the tip of the tip of the iceberg but it’s another thing that makes life harder for those with disabilities without having any real impact on anything.

I squeeze all the air out of a bottle and put the lid back on to stop the bottle expanding. It saves room in my recycling. I thought everyone did this.
I dont think I've ever lost a bottle lid, or recycled one without it firmly screwed onto the bottle.

My grandmother had severe arthritis from her 30s and had to use all manner of aids to help. I get it is very challenging. But I bet everyone complaining about this doesn't have a painful physical condition. They are just being arses and haven't taken a few seconds to work it out.

The flip top lids they have in France would be better for most people with dexterity issues as they require much less power and manual dexterity to open, you simply push up a flip lid up. I think it would be good if we adopted those.

You are despite having being told missing the fact that some people have disabilities or other issues with their hands. Why can't you understand that , to quote your own words to understand not everyone has full use of their hands "is really not difficult ".

Thanks for your valuable input.

Ok, so perhaps your OT is still the best person to speak to here

I know right, another day of people implying people with disabilities are the stupid ones, the irony.

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Tell me you know fuck all about struggling with a painful physical condition, without telling me you know fuck all about struggling with a painful physical condition...

@ttcat37 · Today 09:36

Maybe ask your occupational therapist? The mechanism of popping the lid back doesn’t require much force, perhaps they can show you how to do it.

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Current devices to open bottle lids do not work on the new attached style lids to open them, never mind grip a small lid, move that lid 180°, put it perfectly on the bottle top and then close it.

Here we are trying to save the planet with these bloody annoying bottle caps, and crappy paper straws, and meanwhile Justin Bieber’s wife is taking a private jet just to get her nails done.

Just push the lid back away from you until they click, it's not hard.

Those reusing single use plastic bottles - don't. It's not good for.you. Buy a reusable plastic or metal bottle FGS.

In France recently we came across bottles that had little attached flip top lids rather than attached screw top, that seemed like a better idea.

I hate them too, always snap them off. But whole bottle goes in recycling. I even bring my recycling home if out and about.
I can remember when you had to remove the lid for recycling.

Presumably if they were able to open the old bottles then the method or tools used could be adapted to flip the cap back? I think the occupational therapist is best placed to show you

I may be wrong about this, but as far as I can see the posters saying “you only have to snap the attached lid back into place” just mean “you have to make sure the thread of the lid is square against the thread on the bottle”. If so, that’s true, but it’s more difficult than squaring a loose lid because the attached lid is being put back on from the side, not from directly above. I often have to give attached lids one or two extra tries.

Frankly, it’s not the biggest imposition in modern life but it is very irritating.

Watch this BBC explainer - maybe it’s annoying but for the volume of plastic waste that can never be put back in the proverbial bottle (excuse the pun) it is surely worth trying something new, right?

www.instagram.com/reel/C9rhfcZMRof/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

They're a bit annoying and will take getting used to, but a small price to pay for the environment. And actually, the upside is that you don't accidentally drop/ lose the lid. Both my children can be very clumsy, and often removed the old lids, lost them, left the drink open and then ended up spilling the drink. Far fewer accidents like that now!

I'm still not a fan of paper straws (hate the feel of them in my mouth initially and they just bend, break and go soggy). But again, I tolerate them because there's a much bigger picture out there than my mild inconvenience.

Someone with arthrogryposis wouldn’t be able to apply any force.