For hating the new bottle tops

I hate them because for some reason,the bastarding lid will not screw back onto the bottle properly. Never had a problem with them before,but now,I'm struggling with the damn things for ages. Then even when I think it's back on properly,it's not,and leaks into my bag.

Because everyone's a litter lout and incapable of disposing of them properly?

I absolutely hate them

The training said that sweets weren't quick acting enough, compared to a drink. Part of the risk assessment and management of children with T1 in schools is to always hold a stock of their own snacks and drinks in a dedicated place/fridge with medication. There's over 36,000 children with diabetes in the UK and fewer than that number of schools, which means statistically, there is going to be a minimum of 1-2 children in every school with T1.

Other than that, 23% of the population is over 65 and 24% (the two may overlap at times, being 11% children, 23% working age and 45% over state pension age) have a disability. Add into that people who didn't state they had a disability at census as they might think it's just age and that's a pretty sizeable number of people - to have a teeny little, inconsequential, 'niche problem'.

Honestly I'm just amazed that so many people find something that simple such a drain on their resources. I guess you can't have much else to worry about!

How are you so sure that it's a "tiny minority"
And smart companies design to take into account the minorities not to shut them out.

Do you mean to be so offensive?

If someone needs orange juice can't they carry those little cartons?

I mean, in the nicest way, your incredibly rare niche problem isn’t really a consideration to the manufacturing of millions of plastic bottles.
A diabetic can have all sorts of things to adjust their sugars.

The chances of someone being diabetic and the only thing available to them is a lucozade and both them and the person with them both being unable to open the bottle is incredibly unlikely.
If they can’t open bottles they can carry jelly beans with them.

I was on my hols in Europe a while back when I first came across them. Didn’t know how hard it was to line them back up to close properly

knocked a bottle of Diet Coke off my bedside table. It spun like a Catherine wheel on the floor then as I ran to the bathroom with it sprayed all over the room. I twist them off straight away now and it’s not always an easy thing

How does that work for somebody who needs something like Lucozade or orange juice for a hypo? I'm no longer listed as one of the emergency contacts (as trained by the Diabetes Nursing Team) at work because I can't open the sealed for an emergency bottles anymore and would have to leave the kid(s) with their sugars dropping rapidly/Libre going batshit & Mum phoning Reception to find somebody else to open it for me.

It used to be with the deeper lids that even if my hands were hurting and swollen, I could hold a bottle and twist in both directions using my wrists to get them open easily. Now there isn't enough lid and what lid there is is a harder, sharper material that cuts the web between index finger and thumb or slices directly across the thumb.

Moreover, this means that a considerable number of people who are weakened due to having a hypo could well find out that they can't open the bottles either. If it's not somebody on blood thinners slicing their hand or thumb.

Oh, and the point was from Simon that the old bottles could be opened with specific tools. These can't.

So bring your own reusable water bottle with you?
Continuing to manufacture a less recyclable product because a tiny minority can’t use the new design is not a good enough reason for the change. There will be people who can’t open traditional lids either.

It's not an inconvenience- some of us can't do it.

Can't

Exactly. You can push it down in the other side so it sits firmly down the side of the bottle and doesn't get in the way.
Plastic pollution is a horrendous environmental problem and it's really sad that so many people don't want to do this small thing that is barely an inconvenience.

Reseal

Poured what felt like half a bottle of coke over myself the other day. I was like have I lost all physical coordination? Nope, stupid attached bottle top thingy. Whoever invented it is laughing lots right now.

Resell?

@HungryLittleCrocodile

ANOTHER ONE who doesn't get that some people find them difficult to use. Some people have disabilities and conditions that mean they really struggle with them. Have some compassion and understanding FGS!
Who can use the small plastic screw top bottles but can't use these ones?

I recently poured half a bottle of very cold water into my lap on a plane because of these bloody lids! I was trying to fill up DS's water bottle with one of those ridiculously flimsy bottles they sell on the plane, so only had one hand for each bottle. Every time I tried to pour, the lid and plastic ring bit would spin round and send water everywhere!

It does though.

cyprus-mail.com/2023/04/17/bottle-caps-make-up-most-of-the-beach-rubbish-eu-sponsored-study-shows/

"Eighty-six per cent of the garbage is plastic, with plastic bottle caps making up the majority of that litter, Loizidou said."

Discarded bottle tops are clearly an issues in some places, beaches in particular, so it does make an impact.

But even if they don’t it still doesn’t mean they don’t have a right to dislike the change and how it makes it harder for them.

just because you don’t mind it doesn’t mean everyone has to agree!

Not everyone saying this has disabilities. As I’m sure you are aware.