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To not have known that deli chicken is a level 1 carcinogen

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nevertearusapart · 25/08/2024 20:42

Am feeling fairly stupid about this but only just realised that deli chicken / turkey are considered level 1 carcinogenic processed meats so linked to negative health effects incl. cancer. The examples used are typically ham, sausages, bacon, salami etc so I just assumed red meat for some reason. The deli chicken that we eat was labelled 100% natural and only contained chicken, potato starch, salt and vinegar but it now looks like it’s almost bad as the rest.
Does everyone know things like this and what do people put in kids lunches? (And yes I know it’s all about daily / excessive consumption etc etc)

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HighlandCow78 · 25/08/2024 23:30

Ozgirl75 · 25/08/2024 23:17

I read a recent survey that said out of the people surveyed, 1/3 (I think - could have been even higher) hadn’t eaten a green vegetable in three weeks and the only pulses they had eaten (basically ever) were baked beans.
I think when we’re stressing about diets, these are the people that need to make the changes, not people who are eating the occasional slice of prepackaged chicken.

I try to avoid UPFs but it’s so difficult if you include all sauces, and basically anything that comes from a packet. Even when I make a stir fry with chicken and fresh veg, I use the micro rice as it’s so much quicker and doesn’t clump together. My roast dinner tonight has packet gravy and pre made yorkshires.

Boil in the bag rice is your friend!

Pettyhangingbaskets · 25/08/2024 23:27

I really couldn’t give a fuck about a chicken or ham sandwich

Allwatchedoverbytrees · 25/08/2024 23:26

I cannot be arsed with this. It's enough to
give you an eating disorder. And I really think the genetic component is massive.
You get lifelong chain smokers living till a hundred (my mum is a case in point, chain smoker, lives off red meat)
And vegan health freaks developing all kinds of cancer.
People want to believe it's more in their control than it is.. and there's a wierd edge to it of blame. Oh they ate too much sugar! It won't happen to me because I'm better than that.
Of course we should all at least attempt to live healthily. But that's not guarantee. And personally I don't think it's that healthy to be rating foods in this manner. If at all possible cook fresh organic food yeah.. but that is actually not always possible.. sometimes completely impossible.
There so many factors at play.
Basically if all your kid eats are ham sandwiches because they are asd don't worry they will die of cancer, they probably won't just for that alone. Coz loads plays into it it's not just what you eat at all.
Just do the best you can.

Pigeonqueen · 25/08/2024 23:26

I don’t think anyone can blame the increase in bowel cancer in young people on deli chicken. It’s not a new thing, processed luncheon stuff. In the 80s we lived on processed ham sandwiches, crispsy pancakes and all sorts of crap. I don’t think my lunchbox ever had any sort of fruit or veg in it. Neither did my friends. I actually think the cancer thing is more to do with pollution and micro plastics in the air etc than a bit of processed meat etc. People act like it was only invented in the last 15 years!

EveryKneeShallBow · 25/08/2024 23:22

How the hell is a chicken breast cooked and sliced in a delicatessen evil poison, but the same chicken breast cooked and sliced at home a healthy lunch for toddlers? I feel old.

Rummly · 25/08/2024 23:21

marmaladian · 25/08/2024 23:18

Probably all the oat milk and kale they are eating. Foods of the devil.

They’re more likely the culprits than Waitrose chicken or Sainsbury’s ham slices.

I have a feeling that avocados might be implicated.

KnittedCardi · 25/08/2024 23:20

INGREDIENTS: Chicken breast, salt, brown sugar

Prepared from 117g of raw chicken per 100g of finished product. Moisture is lost during cooking.

How can this be a carcinogen......

marmaladian · 25/08/2024 23:18

Probably all the oat milk and kale they are eating. Foods of the devil.

Ozgirl75 · 25/08/2024 23:17

I read a recent survey that said out of the people surveyed, 1/3 (I think - could have been even higher) hadn’t eaten a green vegetable in three weeks and the only pulses they had eaten (basically ever) were baked beans.
I think when we’re stressing about diets, these are the people that need to make the changes, not people who are eating the occasional slice of prepackaged chicken.

I try to avoid UPFs but it’s so difficult if you include all sauces, and basically anything that comes from a packet. Even when I make a stir fry with chicken and fresh veg, I use the micro rice as it’s so much quicker and doesn’t clump together. My roast dinner tonight has packet gravy and pre made yorkshires.

Glitterglitch · 25/08/2024 23:11

Why do you think loads of young people are getting colon cancer.
If you didn't know this then it's time to educate yourself!

Well the doctors don’t seem to know why but it’s great you have the answer!

Glitterglitch · 25/08/2024 23:09

I was under the impression that processed meats were bad because of the additives and nitrates/ nitrates. Do I have that wrong? I would have thought that chicken is fine too.

Thats what I thought, obviously I was wrong. Is there any food that isn’t bad in some form though?

Girlwhowavesattrains · 25/08/2024 23:04

I was vegetarian from age 11 and diagnosed with cancer in my early 30s with no family history. It’s a lottery.

nevertearusapart · 25/08/2024 22:55

Goinggreymammy · 25/08/2024 22:46

I am stunned. I often buy packs of sliced chicken breast. I chop them into curry just before serving (so can have vegetarian curry or chicken) and my DD likes them in sandwiches. I never looked ar the ingredients as I just thought .... chicken breast. I've just checked now and I'm appalled. Thank you OP.

@Goinggreymammy my mantra these days is ‘I can only fix and move forward’. On repeat.

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IncessantNameChanger · 25/08/2024 22:47

LegoHouse274 · 25/08/2024 20:58

Yes, I do know that, and we are vegetarian.

If you're asking for sandwich filling suggestions, we eat a lot of cheeses, hummus, nut butters, and eggs.

You would be roasted alive and served up as an carcinogenic processed meat if you took any nut product into my kids schools by the staff.

I was almost publicly burnt at the stake for given the kids a chocolate product in that said "may contain traces of nuts due to other foodstuffs in the factory".

Goinggreymammy · 25/08/2024 22:46

I am stunned. I often buy packs of sliced chicken breast. I chop them into curry just before serving (so can have vegetarian curry or chicken) and my DD likes them in sandwiches. I never looked ar the ingredients as I just thought .... chicken breast. I've just checked now and I'm appalled. Thank you OP.

Houseshmouse · 25/08/2024 22:46

Why do you think loads of young people are getting colon cancer.
If you didn't know this then it's time to educate yourself!
Watch 'what the health' if you want your mind blown!

Ozgirl75 · 25/08/2024 22:41

TheHateIsNotGood · 25/08/2024 22:39

What's 'deli' chicken?

It’s chicken, from the deli counter (shortened from delicatessen). So sliced chicken prepared in the shop as opposed to a sliced home chicken breast.

TheHateIsNotGood · 25/08/2024 22:39

What's 'deli' chicken?

Girlwhowavesattrains · 25/08/2024 22:36

SummerSplashing · 25/08/2024 21:31

Ok, so whose going to tell me what's wrong with marmite??

(add lettuce, cucumber)

I presume it's high in salt, but other than that???

(im exceedingly low carb so sandwiches aren't part of my regular diet these days, but I do miss marmite sandwiches)

Marmite sandwiches - food of heaven.

Rummly · 25/08/2024 22:36

“Level 1 carcinogen”? Is that like DefCon 5? Or 9 on the Richter scale?

I’m sorry, but I can’t get excited about the risks of ham and chicken. It’s just food. To be enjoyed.

Solymoly · 25/08/2024 22:33

RootToVictory · 25/08/2024 22:26

What is deli chicken?

I think it is those small packs of chicken breast you can get from the deli counter, M&S do them on the 3 for £8, I often buy them but I'm old so past caring

ForeverDelayedEpiphany · 25/08/2024 22:29

Mumoftwo1316 · 25/08/2024 22:23

That's good to know.

The problem is many people need simpler messaging than that, as shown on this thread. It's a dunning kruger issue.

There is really no need to remove all processed meat from one's diet. Having an over-restricted diet has its own proven issues.

Eat a large variety of foods, lots of vegetables, meats and starchy staples high in fibre, don't overthink it too much, and you can't go far wrong.

Definitely agree with this. Everything in moderation, including treats. Nothing in excess - even things like water are harmful if you drink too much. OTOH, restrictions can make things more tempting... I know if I didn't have the occasional Dorito or chocolate pudding and eliminated them completely, if I got the chance to indulge, it would be deadly lol 😆 😅

The Mediterranean diet is said to be an excellent one to follow if you need a diet as such. 👍😎

Coughsweet · 25/08/2024 22:29

Does it say how much you need to eat?

I buy parma ham, it’s a thin slice of meat without nitrates. About 20g of meat with salt. I buy chorizo without nitrates - M&S sell one variety and Waitrose sell two. Both sell bacon without nitrates.

I live a city, am sure every breath I take is full of all sorts of shit. I don’t get enough sleep as I don’t go to bed as early as I should and I know that’s bad for me too.

RootToVictory · 25/08/2024 22:26

What is deli chicken?

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