To not have known that deli chicken is a level 1 carcinogen

I was thinking about Spain and all the ham they eat!

Thats not deli meat, deli chicken is like ham but in chicken form, slices of formed chicken.

You're just talking about pre cooked packaged chicken.

I wonder if people who say things like this have ever been abroad, salami, cured meats, smoking levels. Yet much lower cancer rates (of varying kinds)

If anyone is interested in the background to this, the research and how reliable the data and conclusions are you can read this:

https://www.zoeharcombe.com/2015/10/world-health-organisation-meat-cancer/

This article is written by Zoe Harcombe a writer who analyses nutrition and health research.

This a good quote "As Peter Cleave, Surgeon Captain, (1906-1983) said: “For a modern disease to be related to an old fashioned food is one of the most ludicrous things I have ever heard in my life.” To think that real meat, or meat preserved in natural ways, is bad for us is ludicrous. 1) You’d have to explain how we survived the past 3.5 million years, since Australopithecus Lucy first walked upright; especially how we survived the ice age(s). 2) You’d have to explain why all the nutrients we need to live (essential fats, complete protein, vitamins and minerals) are found in meat if it were trying to kill us at the same time."

The article is a 5 min read.

Today's children and teens will be the first generation where life expectancy actually begins to fall for the first time - ever.

probably because they are poorer & will have to work longer despite no chage in yrs to healthy life expectancy!

Guardian article on huge new study

"Eating processed or red meat increases the risk of type 2 diabetes, with just two slices of ham a day raising the danger by 15%, the largest study of its kind suggests.

Research led by the University of Cambridge and involving 2 million people worldwide provides the most comprehensive evidence yet of a link between meat and the disease that presents one of the most pressing dangers to global health."

DH is now resolved to buy more raw whole chickens and cook from scratch!

It's a sea of green!!! Excellent.

Thank you. This, x 100.

Everything causes cancer. I never worry about stuff like this

Age group 20–29 yearsFor both sexes combined, CRC incidence increased from 0.8 to 2.3 cases per 100 000 persons between 1990 and 2016. This increase was 1.7% per year between 1990 and 2004, and then rose to 7.9% increase per year between 2004 and 2016 (figure 2).

It's true its on the increase, but it is still rare.

Mum had colon cancer way back she was told no processed meats. No red meat and “nothing from a supermarket “.
The latter she trots out as she mainlines mini magnums 🫢

I read that the only effective way to lower the amount of micro plastics in your body was physically remove them by blood donation.
I would think that would increase the number of people donating blood, but perhaps deter people from accepting blood when needed. Perhaps that’s why it’s not widely discussed.

The M&S chicken is also a better texture and I couldn't see anything bad in the ingredients. This is the 3 for £8 packs or 2 for £7 packs, chunkier slices which are the nice ones. The wafer thin version seems to have additives though

Boil in a plastic bag? In a phthalate non stick pan 😅 just like those cooking their chicken breast in a non stick toxic coated air fryer instead of purchasing deli chicken?

OP I gave up ham for deli chicken 😬

None of it is great, is it. It's quite difficult, especially ona budget or if you have little time or disability that make cooking especially difficult.

I just assume I’m going to die at some point, and that it’s probably going to be the drugs and alcohol I’ve consumed over my lifetime which is the influencing factor in when rather than the pre-cooked roast chicken currently sitting in my fridge. I’m not particularly fussed whether I get 50 years out of life, or 104. It’s not as though I’ll remember missing out if it turns out to be the former.

Isn’t deli chicken the extruded stuff that resembles white salami, rather than recently cooked whole chicken that has then been sliced?

Also as PPs have said, level 1 is about the existence of the hazard, not the level of the risk.

I don't think it's a new scare, I'd say it's fact and given how many physical and mental problems people have I'm sure it's a huge factor. Each generation gets sicker than the one before. Problem is we can't live without it now.

Pasta? 🤷🏼‍♀️

UPF = danger ⚠️ is just the latest obsession. People have known about this in some shape or form for ages. It's been repackaged as a new thing for pop scientists to write acres of copy about.

There'll be some other scare to worry about next week for more click baity articles.

A little learning is a dangerous thing but, confusingly:-

Everything in moderation.

No they aren't new, but they are now prevalent, whereas before they were unique.

So unique that you can only name 2 highly processed foodstuffs pre-1950's.

. . . and we weren't discussing medicines. That's a different subject entirely. Otherwise I could bring breathing benzene into it, as well as the toxic homes exuding chemicals from all the plastic furniture, glues, fillers, household cleaners etc.

Let's not go there shall we.

Life is more toxic than it has ever been.

There's simply no denying it.

and I'll be damned if I'll add to it by eating shitty cheap chicken that's got a detergent added to it with a COSHH sheet that reads like a hazardous waste profile.

How simple life used to be. In my grandparents time they ate what they wanted to, smoked (my GM was a chain smoker), ate meat every day and lived their lives without all this stress about what they should/shouldn't eat, then popped off in their mid-80s. Ditto my parents, without the smoking, and they died in their late 80s.

I'm sure some of these young people who spend so much time researching everything they eat and drink and worrying about absolutely everything are at risk of getting cancer and other diseases via their stress levels.