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Doing the right thing to not tell husband yet?

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Anxiousyoungmum87 · 25/08/2024 19:17

So to cut a long story short I'm taking 20 year old DD for an abortion next week and have yet to tell DH 🫤 We have had issues with her & failed contraception in the past but as she is now an adult and doesn't live at home all we can do is be open and supportive with her on her decisions - at least this is my view! My husband is old school and still treats her as a child! Obviously this is a stressful time for her and she doesn't feel ready to tell him (probably due to him not being as understanding as I am) but I feel awful that I'm keeping this a secret from him! He is a wonderful, caring man and it will probably hurt him that he wasn't involved in helping her through this but right now all she needs is support and not a dressing down/lecture on what she should have been doing to prevent this. But now I'm afraid that this will cause a rift between us and I couldn't bear that 😪

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SecondFavouriteDinosaur · 27/08/2024 11:01

Jumpingthruhoops · 27/08/2024 10:35

You do know there's a big world outside of Mumsnet, right?

I do indeed, I live in it.

SleepwalkingInTesco · 27/08/2024 10:35

Find someone else to confide in, book a therapist, call the Samaritans or BPAS...DD feels it's not for your husband to hear so he can't be the one 'helping you through' this one.

I had a termination and told an aunt on my dad's side and she told my dad. It caused a huge rift, I didn't speak to them for years and it's still never been the same.

Jumpingthruhoops · 27/08/2024 10:35

SecondFavouriteDinosaur · 27/08/2024 10:31

It’s providing a unique insight for me into why so many adults end up on the ‘but we took you to Stately Homes’ threads.

You do know there's a big world outside of Mumsnet, right?

Platform8 · 27/08/2024 10:33

Is there any chance that he would find out later on ?

Jumpingthruhoops · 27/08/2024 10:32

SecondFavouriteDinosaur · 27/08/2024 09:00

If the situation was reversed and the DD had only told her DF, I think people’s reactions on here may well be different

Absolutely not. It’s still her confidential medical information, that she has chosen to share with one parent. Entirely irrelevant which parent that is, neither should be sharing that information without her consent.
I wish people would stop calling her choice to have an abortion ‘a secret’, like it’s something shady. It’s a medical procedure, and medical information is confidential.

You're getting hung up on the detail. This isn't about the procedure per se... it's about the daughter telling her mother something and asking her not to tell her dad. THAT'S the very definition of a secret!!

SecondFavouriteDinosaur · 27/08/2024 10:31

Jumpingthruhoops · 27/08/2024 10:29

Totally agree. This thread is providing a unique insight into why marriages break down and families fall apart. Why can't people just be open and honest?

It’s providing a unique insight for me into why so many adults end up on the ‘but we took you to Stately Homes’ threads.

Jumpingthruhoops · 27/08/2024 10:29

Soontobe60 · 27/08/2024 04:34

This would be a real dilemma for me. Keeping secrets can destroy a relationship, and in this scenario the DD is keeping a secret from her DF and is also expecting her DM to keep a secret from him. She’s actually put her DM in a very difficult situation. Her DM naturally doesn’t want to expose her secret but is also sad that she has to keep such a big secret from her DH.
If the situation was reversed and the DD had only told her DF, I think people’s reactions on here may well be different.

Totally agree. This thread is providing a unique insight into why marriages break down and families fall apart. Why can't people just be open and honest?

Jumpingthruhoops · 27/08/2024 10:26

Hatethisheadofmine · 27/08/2024 07:15

You couldn’t not tell your husband something that your daughter has confided in you about? Wow that’s wonderful parenting. It’s not about you. Why are some mothers like this??

As I said previously, I'd be confident that we'd created an environment where our daughter felt she could confide in both parents.

Jumpingthruhoops · 27/08/2024 10:21

notacooldad · 27/08/2024 07:43

This would be a real dilemma for me. Keeping secrets can destroy a relationship, and in this scenario the DD is keeping a secret from her DF and is also expecting her DM to keep a secret from him. She’s actually put her DM in a very difficult situation. Her DM naturally doesn’t want to expose her secret but is also sad that she has to keep such a big secret from her DH
Why are classing private medical information as a secret. An adult has the right to decide who they chose to tell about a medical incident. It doesn't become a topic of conversation with other people even if they are your husband.

If the situation was reversed and the DD had only told her DF, I think people’s reactions on here may well be different.
I really disagree to be honest.

I absolutely think the reaction would be different had the daughter told the dad, not the mum.

Also, why is everyone zoning in on this 'medical information' nonsense!? This is a far bigger issue than just 'medical information' and anyone who doesn't think so is just being obtuse.

SouthLondonMum22 · 27/08/2024 10:15

Soontobe60 · 27/08/2024 04:34

This would be a real dilemma for me. Keeping secrets can destroy a relationship, and in this scenario the DD is keeping a secret from her DF and is also expecting her DM to keep a secret from him. She’s actually put her DM in a very difficult situation. Her DM naturally doesn’t want to expose her secret but is also sad that she has to keep such a big secret from her DH.
If the situation was reversed and the DD had only told her DF, I think people’s reactions on here may well be different.

Not for me.

It isn’t a secret because no one is entitled to an adults medical information.

That is the case no matter what.

SecondFavouriteDinosaur · 27/08/2024 09:00

If the situation was reversed and the DD had only told her DF, I think people’s reactions on here may well be different

Absolutely not. It’s still her confidential medical information, that she has chosen to share with one parent. Entirely irrelevant which parent that is, neither should be sharing that information without her consent.
I wish people would stop calling her choice to have an abortion ‘a secret’, like it’s something shady. It’s a medical procedure, and medical information is confidential.

diddl · 27/08/2024 08:53

If the daughter had only told her father & asked him not to tell her mum, I wonder if he'd be in such a dilemma about "keeping secrets"?

notacooldad · 27/08/2024 07:43

This would be a real dilemma for me. Keeping secrets can destroy a relationship, and in this scenario the DD is keeping a secret from her DF and is also expecting her DM to keep a secret from him. She’s actually put her DM in a very difficult situation. Her DM naturally doesn’t want to expose her secret but is also sad that she has to keep such a big secret from her DH
Why are classing private medical information as a secret. An adult has the right to decide who they chose to tell about a medical incident. It doesn't become a topic of conversation with other people even if they are your husband.

If the situation was reversed and the DD had only told her DF, I think people’s reactions on here may well be different.
I really disagree to be honest.

Bellyblueboy · 27/08/2024 07:25

So adult son confides in his dad that he has caught an STD from a one night stand. He is ashamed and knows his mum will think less of him but wants some advice from his dad. Dad automatically tells mum and father son relationship destroyed - trust gone.

Wife is a social worker - learns confidential information about neighbours. Breaches confidentiality because she and her husband don’t keep secrets. Husband lets slip to other neighbour and wife gets fired.

wife’s sister confides she is having some
mental health struggles. Wife tells husband because secrets are bad for their relationship. Sister can tell he knows, stops speaking to sister and loses that support.

not all confidential information needs to be shared. Can adults not trust each other that they can have information that doesn’t need to be shared.

Hatethisheadofmine · 27/08/2024 07:15

Jumpingthruhoops · 26/08/2024 23:07

No, not 'hard to grasp' at all. This is a discussion forum open to a variety of opinions. Is that really so hard to grasp?

Of course the daughter is allowed to tell whoever she likes - from everyone to no one and anyone in between.

BUT in telling her mum and asking her not to tell her dad, she has created an awkward situation between her parents.

I couldn't not tell my husband. Simple as that!

You couldn’t not tell your husband something that your daughter has confided in you about? Wow that’s wonderful parenting. It’s not about you. Why are some mothers like this??

MoveToParis · 27/08/2024 06:40

They wouldn’t be different- loads of people would say “Is your reaction to unwanted news to lose your temper and make it all about you? If yes, then you put yourself in this situation.”

If You have a husband who has to be ‘managed’ then at least try to recognize that you are emotionally mollycoddling him, because that’s the level of maturity he’s operating on. And vice versa!

She isn’t Keeping a Secret’ she’s keeping her private medical information private.

Soontobe60 · 27/08/2024 04:34

This would be a real dilemma for me. Keeping secrets can destroy a relationship, and in this scenario the DD is keeping a secret from her DF and is also expecting her DM to keep a secret from him. She’s actually put her DM in a very difficult situation. Her DM naturally doesn’t want to expose her secret but is also sad that she has to keep such a big secret from her DH.
If the situation was reversed and the DD had only told her DF, I think people’s reactions on here may well be different.

Jumpingthruhoops · 27/08/2024 03:19

SecondFavouriteDinosaur · 27/08/2024 02:57

Again, confidential medical information is not ‘a secret’, it’s confidential medical information. But if I’d been raised to know that my mother wouldn’t keep my confidence then this situation wouldn’t have arisen anyway, because I wouldn’t have told her in the first place. So I guess that solves the issue. I’d have confided in someone else instead.

Guess it does 🤷‍♀️

Jumpingthruhoops · 27/08/2024 03:17

SecondFavouriteDinosaur · 27/08/2024 02:21

And my opinion is that as a daughter, that would irreparably damage my relationship with my mother and I’d never trust her again. That’s a choice you’d be making, in betraying your daughter’s confidence.

My daughter would be raised not to expect me to lie to her dad.

Jumpingthruhoops · 27/08/2024 03:14

SouthLondonMum22 · 26/08/2024 23:50

I don't tell my husband everything because I'm my own person outside of my marriage with a career, friends etc that have nothing to do with him.

I'm also entitled to my own privacy.

Oh totally, I'm the same. Both fiercely independent with our own careers, hobbies, regular trips away with the lads/girls. Been this way for the entire 30 years we've been together/married.

What we've never done in that time, though, is keep a secret like this. It's just not how we do things.

Jumpingthruhoops · 27/08/2024 03:05

Bellyblueboy · 26/08/2024 23:41

Okay - so in your world loyalty to husband trumps loyalty to adult child?

it’s nothing to do with it being his daughter it’s to do with the wife not keeping secrets.

so if the parents were divorced that dad wouldn’t have to be told, but if the daughter was his step daughter in your rules the husband would be told.

interesting

happily married couples do keep secrets - just not those about cheating and their family finances. Just to be aware. You maybe don’t but others can respect the privacy of third parties.

It's both. If they are still married/living together and he IS her biological father, then I think he should be told.

Divorced/remarried/separated/step-parents scenarios would create a completely different dynamic. HTH.

Also, I've been married 30 years, so perfectly 'aware' thanks.

SecondFavouriteDinosaur · 27/08/2024 02:57

Jumpingthruhoops · 27/08/2024 02:50

My daughter would be raised to know that, as a family, we don't keep secrets.
Trust is a two-way street.

Again, confidential medical information is not ‘a secret’, it’s confidential medical information. But if I’d been raised to know that my mother wouldn’t keep my confidence then this situation wouldn’t have arisen anyway, because I wouldn’t have told her in the first place. So I guess that solves the issue. I’d have confided in someone else instead.

Jumpingthruhoops · 27/08/2024 02:54

titchy · 26/08/2024 23:10

BUT in telling her mum and asking her not to tell her dad, she has created an awkward situation between her parents.

How inconvenient of her. Hmm She should definitely think about her parents relationship rather than herself.

From what I can gather from the OP, the daughter only ever thinks about herself. Maybe it's time for that to change...?

Jumpingthruhoops · 27/08/2024 02:50

SecondFavouriteDinosaur · 26/08/2024 23:09

Then you’d create a very awkward situation with your daughter.
If my mum passed on my private medical information against my express wishes when I’d gone to her for support, I’d never trust her again. Our relationship would be very superficial after that.

My daughter would be raised to know that, as a family, we don't keep secrets.
Trust is a two-way street.

Jumpingthruhoops · 27/08/2024 02:47

titchy · 26/08/2024 23:07

Just that, since the mum does know, the dad should probably know too.

Why? Do you not believe adult children have autonomy or self-determination?

Yes of course they do. But in exercising that right, in this instance, the daughter is knowingly causing a rift between her happily married parents by asking one of them to keep a fairly significant secret.

As an adult, she is absolutely allowed to make whatever life choices she likes. However, those life choices shouldn't impact others. Least of all, her parents marriage!

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