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To stop my RA treatment because of hair loss

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Emmadaily · 25/08/2024 16:06

Posting here for traffic
I have decided today to stop my treatment for RA called Leflunomode as my hair is visibly thinning
I will still have my infusions when needed
which are normally around 12 to 18 months max
My question is
Has anyone here stopped medication because of hair loss and how long before it stopped falling out and then growing back again properly
Thanks for reading .

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Emmadaily · 27/08/2024 10:23

Hi
Just to give an update after speaking with S nurse
I explained everything and she as recommended I carry on with the lef and take one every other day for now to see if it calms things down.
So I'm taking the advice off her and many of the PPs here and also I have ordered Watermans s shampoo which a PP as kindly recommended to me

Xx

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Watermelonistheanswertoallthings · 26/08/2024 13:54

I wouldn't stop the leuflutomide just for the hairless, and I am currently experiencing it.
I have cut my hair into a short bob and bleached it...the bleach makes it look much thicker and I use volume powder like its going out of fashion.

Methotrexate was HELL for the poster above, refuse to take anymore. I was on it for 5 years and it was just awful. Then I spoke to a friend of mine who was diagnosed long after me who was on and off Methotrexate in a few months including being put on injection. I asked how on earth did she get off it? She just said she refused to take it and would complain of she wasn't given another option. So I went in with a similar strategy and came out with a new DMARD (I can't remember which)

Anything that stops the RA is best.

I had to go off all treatment for a year as I was found to have TB so couldn't have any while it was being treated....I was an absolute mess by the end.

Keep up with the meds so you don't loose function. ... or ask for a different DMARD, I won't recommend Methotrexate lol

Emmadaily · 26/08/2024 13:33

Thanks @Georgieporgie29 for your advice about seeing a dermatologist that sounds promising
Everything will be discussed tomorrow
Seems you have tried lots of medication and would like to wish you all the best with the Jak inhibitor ( I'm unaware of this one) tho know all your other tried treatments

And hopefully no more hair loss for you to
Xx

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Georgieporgie29 · 26/08/2024 08:46

@Emmadaily I just wanted to add on to your post to say that you can be asked to be referred to a dermatologist regarding the hair loss, they can prescribe certain things that may help.

I would hang on until Tuesday and speak to the nurse and see if you can change to a different medication. Echoing others, you may think that you’re managing ok but you could be causing irreversible damage to your joints.

As an aside, I have never taken leflunomide but do take Sulfasalzine. Have failed hydroxychloroquine, methotrexate, humira, enbrel and am now on a jak inhibitor.

I have suffered from hair loss, however this was put down to being alopecia as you know once you get one auto immune disease the rest usually follow. Have had numerous treatments from the dermatology dept for this.

Emmadaily · 26/08/2024 08:45

Hi

Thanks for explaining about the charcoal.washout I was going Google it later on
I do have treatment for my RA Called rituxumab and have this around once a year it all depends on how I'm doing
Lef was prescribed to me as last infusion didn't work as well
For now I'm feeling and doing quite well aa rituxumab still in my system when things start to flare up again I will recieve the rituxumab and hopefully this time works better
I hope you are staying well to xx

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handmademitlove · 26/08/2024 08:27

The charcoal washout is needed if they need to get the leflunomide out of your system in a hurry - as it can stay in your system for a long time when you stop taking it. I do not know anyone who has ever needed this.

I have had no side effects from leflunomide other than hair loss either. The danger for you is that untreated RA leads to permanent deterioration of the joints eg osteoarthritis which can then only.be fixed with surgery. My consultant basically told me that the alternative to taking an effective medication was multiple joint replacements. But if something does not work due to the side effects, trying an alternative was better than stopping altogether.

Emmadaily · 26/08/2024 08:07

@Justonedayatatime11
I am sorry hear that you are having a bad time at the moment

In my experience lefflunomide as been ok for me apart from a little nausea around 15 mins after taken it and a bit of upset stomach which wasn't much either
Blood pressure good all blood tests good it's the loss of hair which as been my main side effect which is why I stopped taking it
I have never heard of a charcoal washout will have a look at that
Good luck and i hope all works out for you xx

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Justonedayatatime11 · 25/08/2024 21:49

I hope you don't mind me jumping on your thread OP. Just a question. Leflunomide is where my consultant is pushing me to go, after mtx stopped working. I'm very very reluctant to take the Leflunomide due to the side effects, in particular the potential need for a charcoal washout. Has anyone ever had this? I've now had no DMARDs for 6ish months and my joints have deteriorated so rapidly that even a mega dose of steroids recently hasn't worked its normal miracle.

Emmadaily · 25/08/2024 18:48

@Crunchymum
No need apologies crunchymum ☺
Yes it's always good to have a great consultant who is lovely and understanding so pleased for you
My consultant also is very good and my S nurse is to

It really does make a difference as you do feel listened to

Good luck to you and hopefully you stay well xx

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Crunchymum · 25/08/2024 18:25

LittleLittleRex · 25/08/2024 18:07

Can you reduce the dose rather than come off it altogether? A lot of the biologics work best in conjunction with mtx. I had horrible mtx side effects (as in WBC too low as well) and I was reduced to half the dose and a biologic, it's so much better.

Edited as although you replied to me, I think you were actually posting to the OP (and rightly so. Sorry to derail your thread @Emmadaily )

So ignore me 😂

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Bloods are fine, arthritis is well controlled so they won't consider me as "failing" MTX. I need to fail two DMARD's (have already failed Sulfasalazine - this showed up in a blood test)

I've already reduced from 25mg to 15mg and I inject.

Apparently me feeling like utter shit for two days a week isn't enough to 'fail me'

[Big London hospital and my consultant - who I really like - has assured me the moment I flare / officially fail MTX I'll be moved to a biological]

Emmadaily · 25/08/2024 18:23

Hi pps
Thanks for responding to my thread lots of lovely people here

I'm.sorry to hear that you have all suffered terrible side effects and I wish you all the best to stay well
Some very good suggestions here and will be looking into everything
I had MTX years ago and sulphur salazine both times were taken off them after bloods showed elevated liver counts
So was suggested Rituxumab which has been really good( no problems with blood results no hair loss) apart from the last infusions didnt work so well so was suggested i try the lef to go alongside the Rit then hair started thinning falling out terrible
So obviously i will speak with my S nurse and see if I can just have my infusions when need them as before tho still willing to try another Dmard once things settle down again
Take care everyone you have all be so understanding

Thankyou xx

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handmademitlove · 25/08/2024 18:14

I am currently on sulfasalazine and leflunomide. I have had hair thinning which resolved when I reduced the dosage of leflunomide, but unfortunately I have also had a corresponding flare up. It is hard to know what to do for the best - methotrexate worked for a while but then I had increased side effects and had to come off it.

If there are other options to try, it may be worth considering as you can always go back if it turns out to be the better option!

LittleLittleRex · 25/08/2024 18:07

Crunchymum · 25/08/2024 17:45

I'll assume you mean natural treatments for hair loss and not natural treatments for RA?

RA patients need specialist treatment to protect their joints from further damage. There is no "natural treatment" for the condition.

(I have a different type of autoimmune arthritis and I'm 6 years on Methotrexate but having horrible side effects so desperate to come off it!)

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Can you reduce the dose rather than come off it altogether? A lot of the biologics work best in conjunction with mtx. I had horrible mtx side effects (as in WBC too low as well) and I was reduced to half the dose and a biologic, it's so much better.

namestevalian · 25/08/2024 17:56

Could you use topical minoxidil for the hair thinning ?

Must be used daily

MamaBanana12 · 25/08/2024 17:52

I have RA also and my hair fell out also, had huge bald patches. I ended up having steroid injections into the scalp and it did grow back. I couldn't have stopped medications as I am so unwell without them. At the time I was on Sulfasalazine and methotrexate orally.

Now I'm on injection methotrexate and biological Amgevita injections. No further hairless and after the 6 month course of steroid injections into scalp it's grown back in. My only saving grace was that it was underneath my hair behind my ears and I have really long thick hair so I could cover it. But it's back now, and I just keep an eye on it

CheshireCat1 · 25/08/2024 17:49

I wouldn’t stop my RA treatment because I couldn’t even dress myself or wash my own hair before I started it. Is you hair loss just cyclical or has it been happening over months? I use caffeine shampoo which I found helpful but my hair thinning was just now and again, it’s quite thick at the moment. I hope you find a solution.

Crunchymum · 25/08/2024 17:45

beeloubee · 25/08/2024 16:57

Try and look into natural treatments

I'll assume you mean natural treatments for hair loss and not natural treatments for RA?

RA patients need specialist treatment to protect their joints from further damage. There is no "natural treatment" for the condition.

(I have a different type of autoimmune arthritis and I'm 6 years on Methotrexate but having horrible side effects so desperate to come off it!)

CassandraWebb · 25/08/2024 17:44

It's so horrible isn't it, people I think don't realise what toxic medication so many have to take for chronic conditions

I don't have RA but have Myasthenia, and was prescribed steroids first and they were awful, I gained a huge amount of weight /water retention and became horribly unwell - thankfully that meant I came off them.

I'm now on mycophenolate and it has caused a lot of hair loss. Luckily I had thick hair to begin with but there are visible balding patches and my hair is a horrible texture.

I'm desperate to come off it, not so much because of that but because I think it generally makes me feel quite unwell and isn't really belong. Last time I spoke my neurologist urged me to stay on it but I am going to raise the question again.

It's not an easy balance and I don't think it's unreasonable to be pondering whether the side effects are worth the medical benefits. I certainly don't feel entirely sure I want to stay on these meds

Emmadaily · 25/08/2024 17:42

@Wideskye
Thanks for your recommendation for watermans shampoo will be googling that and also your suggestions of different meds and your kind words xx

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Emmadaily · 25/08/2024 17:38

@LyrasOxford
Yes I will do that thankyou x
I'm going write down everything you have all suggested for when i chat to my S Nurse
Thanks everyone I feel a bit better now and I'm so grateful for all suggestions
Just hope for now my hair loss slows down and things start to improve xx

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Wideskye · 25/08/2024 17:38

I found, initally (with methotrexate) that I experienced hair loss. It settled down and my hair grew back. Now if I take a break for any reason it thins!
I take a biological, hydroxychloroquine and methotrexate.
Our meds don't cure RA, they make us function. Each one has side effects.
Many use watermans shampoo.
I hope you find a med that suits you. Take care.

Emmadaily · 25/08/2024 17:33

@UncharteredWaters
I do have regular blood tests as part of the monitoring

Tho not for what you say
so yes that's really worth asking my S nurse on Tuesday to see if she will order them for me thanks for your suggestion x

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LyrasOxford · 25/08/2024 17:23

Would it be worth asking your specialist nurse for an alternative DMARD? I don't know what you've already tried but I take mtx alongside my biologic. I don't experience hair loss with mtx but other side effects. Could sulfasalazine also be an option? Hope you can work it out, hair loss is horrible.

Technonan · 25/08/2024 17:16

There may be treatments that suit you better, so it's worth asking. RA is a nasty thing (I'm sure you don't need me to tell you that) and you don't want to risk it running amok - it can do a lot of damage in a short period of time.

Follow your consultant's advice.

UncharteredWaters · 25/08/2024 17:09

Worth having a chat about the side effects and maybe checking b12 and ferritin before announcing you are stopping in case there are some other options?