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Grandparents don't seem to like my DC

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BackForABit · 25/08/2024 15:35

I know everyone thinks their children are centre of universe and grandparents shouldn't necessarily have to match that level of enthusiasm but I'm feeling a bit sore that both sets of grandparents are just so uninterested in my children.

I have two DC, mid primary age and both are severely disabled (autism, learning disabilities, ADHD etc). I really understand that they can be difficult to connect with in a typical way and they are physically very difficult to look after (no understanding of certain things so they throw stuff everywhere and make lots of noise). However, I try to mitigate this by never EVER asking family to watch them by themselves, inviting over to our (adapted) house, paying for their hotels sometimes, etc.

I asked inlaws what dates they wanted to come see us in summer (at their convenience) and they kept saying "oh we'll sort something out" then didn't. Now I've asked about next half term and they have just ignored my message. It's been over a year (it might actually be 2 years) since they saw one of my DC and they saw the other one briefly for a couple of hours when I drove 5 hours to a hotel near them (to be fair this was for selfish reasons because the DC were driving each other crazy and I had to separate them). My own parents are a bit better but it usually takes a bit of pressure.

In laws don't ask for photos (quite the opposite), updates, nothing really. Just feel a bit sad about it.

AIBU just to stop trying with inlaws? AIBU with the whole thing about this?

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Isabellivi · 16/11/2024 21:45

Many older people are just done with kids, in fact they may have been relieved for you to grow up before you had yours. It may be that your kids are more headaches than they like but unless you see them spending a lot of time with other kids it may just be they aren’t keen on children and glad to have moved past that stage in their lives. Don’t be sad. It’s their right to enjoy their “golden years” child free. I feel sorry for grandparents who are doing a lot of the work of raising grandchildren.

NoisyDenimShaker · 10/11/2024 22:41

FriendlyNeighbourhoodAccountant · 25/08/2024 15:50

I think, sorry to be blunt, that they've made it clear they aren't interested in fostering a relationship. But I do wonder why you phrase it as "what dates they want to come and see us in summer" - had they given any indication they wanted to visit?

About the dates, it's a way of extending an invitation. And I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that GPs want to see their GCs.

Ilovetravelling · 10/11/2024 22:26

Well I believe it as my in laws hardly visited my children. My son was six weeks old before they even came over to see him.They only lived 10 miles away. Strange really as they were the ones who always went on to us to start a family. Little did they know we had been trying two years and had problems but we got there in the end.

TheThreeCheesesOfTheApocalypse44 · 09/11/2024 14:19

Stop engaging with them......stop inviting them and stop giving updates on your dc.

If they bother to ask why then tell them......because they aren't good enough people for your children to be around.

TheShellBeach · 28/10/2024 10:36

I'm so sorry, OP.
This is very distressing for you.

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 28/10/2024 08:01

BackForABit · 28/10/2024 07:13

I get that to some extent but also I did expect them to push through it a couple of times a year. We do absolutely everything we can to minimise the impact on other people. My in-laws were the same when they were babies so I think there's another component to it.

yes. The in-laws have never felt an instinctive bond with your children. Goodness knows why.

BackForABit · 28/10/2024 07:13

SeulementUneFois · 28/10/2024 07:03

"Oh, we stopped doing Christmas with any relatives years ago. The pressure for the kids to be normal was enormous. We can't even have a Christmas tree at home due to damage DC cause"

OP - I think that it's very hard for people to like people who incessantly cause damage, even if children.
Parents' biological instinct of love pushes through that as it's stronger, but anybody else even other family doesn't have that so is much more objective.

I get that to some extent but also I did expect them to push through it a couple of times a year. We do absolutely everything we can to minimise the impact on other people. My in-laws were the same when they were babies so I think there's another component to it.

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SeulementUneFois · 28/10/2024 07:03

"Oh, we stopped doing Christmas with any relatives years ago. The pressure for the kids to be normal was enormous. We can't even have a Christmas tree at home due to damage DC cause"

OP - I think that it's very hard for people to like people who incessantly cause damage, even if children.
Parents' biological instinct of love pushes through that as it's stronger, but anybody else even other family doesn't have that so is much more objective.

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 28/10/2024 06:36

So sorry OP this is heartbreaking. I agree with PP that you should stop trying because this consistent rejection is more painful than silence.

SayYesToChocolate · 28/10/2024 03:11

I’m sorry to hear this OP. I think there is a huge number of reasons why there are uninvolved GPs. I’m in that boat! Neither made a fuss on pregnancy.

Not much has changed since the start, both are happy to have us drive hours and visit but not come to ours (and we are 30 mins from mine and 1.5 hours from in-laws). No health problems on their end. There are no special texts, phone calls or interest in DD, DH and I - to ask how we are or can anyone help.

I find it weird and take what I can (paste a smile on my face when we visit). I know I will never be that uninterested in my DD’s children if she has any. I will be pretty obsessed actually!

FictionalCharacter · 28/10/2024 02:43

BackForABit · 27/10/2024 20:54

Update: they agreed to come down to visit in the end, this half term. They would have had to book a hotel but pulled out last minute for "financial reasons" so it's likely they were never going to come anyway.

I think that really has to be it now, any more effort on my part would just be a bit desperate.

I think you’re right. If you make any more efforts just to get rejected again you’ll just get hurt again. It’s a very sad situation but not of your own making.

BackForABit · 27/10/2024 20:54

Update: they agreed to come down to visit in the end, this half term. They would have had to book a hotel but pulled out last minute for "financial reasons" so it's likely they were never going to come anyway.

I think that really has to be it now, any more effort on my part would just be a bit desperate.

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BackForABit · 29/08/2024 17:48

WildCats24 · 29/08/2024 17:44

So what’s the setup on Christmas Day?

Oh, we stopped doing Christmas with any relatives years ago. The pressure for the kids to be normal was enormous. We can't even have a Christmas tree at home due to damage DC cause so why relatives expected them to be completely neurotypical for the day is beyond me.

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WildCats24 · 29/08/2024 17:44

BackForABit · 25/08/2024 17:29

I don't think I'd get a truthful answer they go on and on (in Christmas cards) about how much they love us.

So what’s the setup on Christmas Day?

BackForABit · 29/08/2024 17:24

@Proudofmynane I have no idea why I do it, it's obviously something deep within me because I feel humiliated and just so low every time it happens and haven't learnt!

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Proudofmynane · 29/08/2024 17:22

Why do you keep trying to 'force' people to come and visit you? They're not interested. It's their loss, and as other posters have said, it works both ways if they ever want anything from you in the future!! You will be happier and more at peace without them. And better off, too!!

Qanat53 · 28/08/2024 11:13

I don’t really speak to MIL anymore, and my life is much better.
Early-on, with my NDS who was 18 mos at the time, and not really challenging in daytime, she babysat (with FIL) him for 2-3 hours and said child had a seizure. (And that she wouldn’t be able to look after him again). He had no previous seizures, it was serious for us, she seemed not too bothered. Neither of us believed he really had a seizure, he at that time rolled back & forth which a typical would prob not do, but not a seizure! Never had one since but it was her excuse. (FIL treated him like any other kid which was great, but couldn’t alone babysit as had some mobility issues. ). MIL would visit, it was like the Queen coming for a state visit, so demanding and bossy. I think she resented the disability because it meant she wasn’t center of attention, “Look at me, Nanna visiting! “. Rather than offer any help, she would give me a lengthy list of things she required and available before arrival from cotton buds to “Martini” for 4pm. Daily errands for her whims, bring her “frock” shopping. Then outings to see Jazz & I would happily stay home.
When ND child was about 13, and siblings 10,8&6. . MIL told DP, that I should not have gone to have 3 more kids because “can’t handle it”. We wanted 4 kids!! And it’s been hard, but now 2 at Uni and other going well. Oldest, now living independent with care. (And MIL ooozing with pride over the one at elite Uni … what silly “can’t handle it” mum has child at elite Uni???)
DP resented her negative comments and many others and told me (he prob should not have), I just cannot tolerate her now. Luckily she lives long haul flight away and no longer doing big trips, but I just don’t need her in my life saying crap like that …
Honestly, there is certainly loss of connections & loneliness that comes with “special” parenting but for me, the silver lining, is dumping people that aren’t supportive & not feeling bad about it.

willowthecat · 28/08/2024 09:39

BackForABit · 28/08/2024 09:00

Yes, no one knows how to connect with them except DH and me. That's not necessarily a criticism of them, if I didn't have disabled kids there is absolutely no way I'd know how to play or connect with a child who was shrieking, flailing their limbs around and repeatedly trying to flush their toys down the toilet.

I expect both sides are as bad as each other but, for better or worse, I love my parents and don't love my inlaws so I'm probably harder on my inlaws.

yes that's definitely true - no one understands unless it happens to them but It has happened to the GPs, they do have severely disabled grandchildren who are hard work not an endless source of sweet photographs but they will have to face up to it eventually

BackForABit · 28/08/2024 09:00

Yes, no one knows how to connect with them except DH and me. That's not necessarily a criticism of them, if I didn't have disabled kids there is absolutely no way I'd know how to play or connect with a child who was shrieking, flailing their limbs around and repeatedly trying to flush their toys down the toilet.

I expect both sides are as bad as each other but, for better or worse, I love my parents and don't love my inlaws so I'm probably harder on my inlaws.

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Holidayhell22 · 28/08/2024 08:03

To be honest both sets of grandparents sound fairly disinterested period. You say your own grandparents were disinterested. There you go.
Sounds like parenting and grand parenting was just a side effect of having sex ( sorry to be blunt). It absolutely was expected for women to get married and have children, there is still an element of pressure today. Add your children’s disabilities in to the mix, plus the distance and there you go.
I agree in scaling back.
It isn’t uncommon. My ex in-laws only visited for their own benefit. They expected to be waited on hand and foot. Total nightmare looking back.
Their loss op.

SeulementUneFois · 28/08/2024 07:50

OP, you mentioned this:

"my DC are really seriously disabled: non/minimally verbal, doubly incontinent, quite extreme behaviours "

Is it possible that the GPs aren't able to connect with your DCs at all.
And possibly don't enjoy being in their company?

In which case isn't it better than there's no meetings?

BackForABit · 28/08/2024 07:32

Really sorry to hear some of these sad stories. Most of my own grandparents were pretty disinterested to be honest, with the exception of one of my grandmas. She was great, I still miss her. I wish I had that for my DC. Who knows, maybe behind the scenes she had to be begged to visit.

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CrowleyKitten · 27/08/2024 23:48

unfortunately, you just learn to live with it.
my grandad was always on about how I'd never have a boyfriend (because I dyed my hair unnatural colours. I dyed my blonde hair black) and he had very limited ideas of what was attractive. this was to the extent that when I got engaged, he sent a cheque to my more conventionally attractive cousin. because, obviously, I would never convince someone to marry me, because I was a goth, despite the fact I'd been in a solid relationship for nearly ten years.

my nan, every time I reached a good landmark, would change the subject to how well one of my younger cousins was doing, because she was either a manager or a supervisor of the shop she worked for. I never got that far, despite working in retail and being great at my job, because I'm my husbands care needs, and that always came first. eventually I had to stop working, and that made me a failure.

none of the grandparents ever really seemed proud of me anymore once I wasn't the only one. and once it was clear I was autistic and "weird"
it always felt like they were releived they got other, more normal grandchildren, and didn't have to pretend to like me anymore.

pollymere · 27/08/2024 17:44

My IL started treating mine differently once SIL had kids. Maybe because it was their own daughter but their attitude to those kids made mine realise they would never be treated the same.

They don't bother seeing them now at all.

Packetofcrispsplease · 27/08/2024 09:19

Oh that’s difficult 😞 the youngest of my children is autistic with a mild to moderate learning disability.
Grandparents on both sides liked to visit on occasion but had no idea what was involved on a day to day basis .
If I started to tell them they cut the conversation off .

I was often desperate for a break even though my youngest would be a lot easier to look after than your children .
I never did get a break so I feel for you I really do .

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