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holidaysituation · 25/08/2024 13:36

I was talking to one of my son's friends mums a few months back about our holiday. Long story short, it turns out the mum's cousin owns a flat which she rents for holidays. The mum told me she'd ask her if it was available on our dates.

It was available. Friend sent some pics of the flat and we told her we'd take it. I did ask to put me in touch with the cousin directly but the mum never did and all communication went through the mum.

We never paid any deposit. I asked the friend and she said not to worry about it. So it was all done on good will really, which is why even before we left, we sort of thought that it will be difficult if we aren't happy about something there and we would probably just need to suck it up for the sake of the friendship.

Anyway, the flat wasn't ideal and most importantly really, it didn't have WiFi and one of the beds was so uncomfortable and lob-sided, we had to fit into one bed / put a mattress on the floor.

I think the WiFi thing was the worst thing really. After a few days I informed friend we would be leaving the flat. Friend didn't ask why or if all was ok. Just said OK can you switch for the boiler ? I said I would be switching off the boiler when we give back the flat. We left the flat but didn't officially leave it with the keys etc until the day we were supposed to leave.

We were very gracious about it all but I feel like the friend could have been gracious as well and asked if all was ok. We paid everything up front on arrival. We weren't going to start arguing for money back but she could have asked if all was ok and why we were leaving early in my opinion.

She sort of managed the whole process for us with her relative, which we do appreciate but I think that no WiFi is just unacceptable.

I'm not going to say anything, it's done and dusted but I do feel a bit miffed about the whole thing.

AIBU ?

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BettyBardMacDonald · 25/08/2024 14:22

holidaysituation · 25/08/2024 14:04

I don't think you guys get it. We always knew there's no way we would complain about anything . The relationship with these friends is important to us and we don't want to cause a fuss or problem for them or their relatives.

They could have just been courteous back in asking why we were leaving and if there's any problem. I think it's weird not to ask why.

I get it.

They sound cheap and opportunistic. I wonder how many other friends have stayed there and been miserable.

Where was it? Some locations are worth putting up with a bit of inconvenience for; some are not.

MolkosTeenageAngst · 25/08/2024 14:20

If the bed was literally broken you should have told them, how will they rectify this for the next rental if nobody actually tells them!? If you didn’t give any indication something was wrong she might have assumed you were leaving due to a family emergency or weather/ illness etc, she may not have asked why if your not close friends so as not to be intrusive.

I also don’t see why moving the mattress to the floor wasn’t a good enough workaround, a mattress on the floor doesn’t suddenly become more uncomfortable than when it’s on the bed (unless I suppose you have mobility issues which make getting in/ out difficult).

I wouldn’t have expected Wi-Fi, surely most people have mobile data on their phones anyway. Some rentals do have it but certainly not all.

It does seem fishy that the friend didn’t ever put you in touch with the cousin, my guess would be friend told the cousin she was going to stay there for free and then has sub-let it you so that she can take the cash.

TorroFerney · 25/08/2024 14:19

Dotto · 25/08/2024 13:44

Did you perform due diligence in enquiring that WiFi was provided? If its so important to you to have broadband available on holiday that you would cut your holiday short because you can't get on the internet, surely you did?

The words " due dilligence" came to my mind immediately too. I'd never go anywhere I'd not seen reviews for unless it was a friend and I knew them. Completely on you op. It's like when people selling things come to the door and use the "your neighbours bought it/signed up for it" why would that help me decide, I don't know the bloke that lives across the road.

holidaysituation · 25/08/2024 14:16

crockofshite · 25/08/2024 14:13

I think your friend sub let - I wonder if the owner knew.

There's not much you can do about a refund after the event - you have to ask for it, she's not going to offer, but you should definitely give feedback about the awful bed, and anything else you were told to expect that wasn't provided.

I met the owner as well. There's nothing I am going to do about it. I never was going to do anything.

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crockofshite · 25/08/2024 14:13

I think your friend sub let - I wonder if the owner knew.

There's not much you can do about a refund after the event - you have to ask for it, she's not going to offer, but you should definitely give feedback about the awful bed, and anything else you were told to expect that wasn't provided.

redalex261 · 25/08/2024 14:07

Glad the owner was there, at least you weren’t trespassing! 🤣 Your friend obviously thought she was doing you a favour - did she arrange a price deduction or something of that nature?

TBH probably didn’t ask reason for early departure in case it opened dialogue about partial refund.

As this wasn’t a proper business arrangement I would maybe tell them about the bed and wifi being a problem for you and move on. That way they can sort it out for next occupant.

SadieDadie · 25/08/2024 14:06

And you also know by not raising it you've left the problem for the next person, like the last person did for you.

OhmygodDont · 25/08/2024 14:06

If you cannot complain why would you do anything different if they asked how it had been. Would still be a complaint.

pasturesgreen · 25/08/2024 14:05

Just one of those things, really, nothing much you can do about it now except chalk it up to experience.

Really, it had the potential to go wrong from the start, when you weren't in direct communication with the owner of the flat and it was all done via your friend.

Andwegoroundagain · 25/08/2024 14:05

Yes it's a bit odd but also probably not worth thinking about too much.

SadieDadie · 25/08/2024 14:05

Maybe your friend thought that as a grown up you'd just open your mouth and tell them there was an issue. Why play games and wait for them to read your mind?

sweeneytoddsrazor · 25/08/2024 14:04

Exactly @Dotto

Thats why I said uncomfortable isn't a reason and how was it broken
If the next people to rent it report the bed broken then the OP is very likely to be blamed for it.

holidaysituation · 25/08/2024 14:04

I don't think you guys get it. We always knew there's no way we would complain about anything . The relationship with these friends is important to us and we don't want to cause a fuss or problem for them or their relatives.

They could have just been courteous back in asking why we were leaving and if there's any problem. I think it's weird not to ask why.

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Justlurking101 · 25/08/2024 14:03

Did you see the property photos, ask for reviews, what amenities available including wifi, TV, swimming pools etc? Why would you choose that over an actual holiday apartment? Was it really cheap? Did you give a reason for leaving early, if you didn't give reason then how can they know what was the problem. You aren't that close so maybe the person didn't want to intrude and ask.

OhmygodDont · 25/08/2024 14:03

Unless the host is told the beds broken how would they know.

Not hard so tell them. “Hey we are going to have to leave early the beds broke so cannot sleep there”

Andwegoroundagain · 25/08/2024 14:02

Personally I don't care about WiFi as so many phone contracts have so much data included it's barely an issue for a few days.
The bed is odd but you didn't actually say anything to them either. So they may have assumed you wanted to visit another place or whatever. It's all very informal.
I think renting from or via friends is always tricky unfortunately

Dotto · 25/08/2024 14:00

Yes, if a bed is broken it gets fixed or replaced. This is how it works.

holidaysituation · 25/08/2024 13:59

redalex261 · 25/08/2024 13:58

You were crazy not yo have direct contact in the first place eith the owner. Did you ask about wifi? You didn’t know if the place met rental safety standards such as carbon monoxide/boiler or anything. How would you even know if the owner had agreed to the rental? How do you know the acquaintance didn’t put a bit on top of the price, or even paid the person?

Think you need to suck it up and be glad you had accommodation available when you showed up - there could’ve been someone else (with a contract) there.

The friend met us with the owner on arrival.

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Dotto · 25/08/2024 13:59

holidaysituation · 25/08/2024 13:57

@Dotto no we didn't ask because we didn't want to bother them and make a fuss. That's all it was. Which is why it would have been nice to be asked if all was alright. Also what were they going to do ? Give us a new bed ? I doubt it.

We gracefully managed it. It would have been graceful to ask, oh is all ok ? How come you're going elsewhere? That's literally it. Not, reply saying - please make sure you turn off the boiler.

Perhaps the previous occupants also didn't report the broken bed, so they think you have broken it and not told them?

I think you should have given them a chance to make it right, instead of feeling hard done by.

holidaysituation · 25/08/2024 13:58

sweeneytoddsrazor · 25/08/2024 13:56

How many of you had to fit in one bed?
A bed being uncomfortable is not a reasonable reason for leaving either
When you say it was lopsided do you mean the base was broken

How is a broken bed not a reasonable reason for leaving ? That's the basic thing. It was completely wonky and impossible to sleep on.

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redalex261 · 25/08/2024 13:58

You were crazy not yo have direct contact in the first place eith the owner. Did you ask about wifi? You didn’t know if the place met rental safety standards such as carbon monoxide/boiler or anything. How would you even know if the owner had agreed to the rental? How do you know the acquaintance didn’t put a bit on top of the price, or even paid the person?

Think you need to suck it up and be glad you had accommodation available when you showed up - there could’ve been someone else (with a contract) there.

holidaysituation · 25/08/2024 13:57

@Dotto no we didn't ask because we didn't want to bother them and make a fuss. That's all it was. Which is why it would have been nice to be asked if all was alright. Also what were they going to do ? Give us a new bed ? I doubt it.

We gracefully managed it. It would have been graceful to ask, oh is all ok ? How come you're going elsewhere? That's literally it. Not, reply saying - please make sure you turn off the boiler.

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TwinklyAmberOrca · 25/08/2024 13:57

holidaysituation · 25/08/2024 13:50

I didn't think to ask, I assumed every holiday rental would have WiFi as a basic thing tbh.

I also never said I would end the friendship - I'm just a bit annoyed about it and think that we handled our annoyances very gracefully without making a fuss and deserved at least a question back? She was the one who wanted to handle everything.

Tbh the lines were blurred who we actually rented it from because friend met us and provided us with towels etc for our stay and insisted she'd handle it all.

That all sounds rather odd and I would have walked away.

Almost sounds as if friend had rented it, didn't want it and was palming it off on you?!?!

Lots of holiday places have no WiFi. Do you NEED WiFi on a holiday?

sweeneytoddsrazor · 25/08/2024 13:56

How many of you had to fit in one bed?
A bed being uncomfortable is not a reasonable reason for leaving either
When you say it was lopsided do you mean the base was broken

Dotto · 25/08/2024 13:55

holidaysituation · 25/08/2024 13:53

That's not the only reason we left though, it was also the bed. We couldn't sleep on it and I refuse to spend a holiday sleeping on a mattress on the floor which was also not comfortable.

Did you ask for help with this, for it to be fixed or replaced?