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Himitsu · 25/08/2024 12:13

Currently at a festival with husband, dd10 and ds2.

Dd10 is refusing to leave the tent. Doesn’t want to go to the festival (that she really wanted to come to!)

We have paid for activities that she wanted to do today and we are currently just sat here. Short of physically manhandling her I’m not sure what to do. Toddler is bored and wants to go and see stuff. Husband is going to take him down in a bit but means I’m stuck here with moody 10 year old and I’m really pissed off. She’s saying her head hurts (it only hurts when she’s doesn’t want to do something funnily enough).

What would you do in this situation? She just had a lovely birthday party, lovely gifts and this was part of it. She just manages to ruin almost every day we out we have when she doesn’t get her own way. Shes generally a lovely girl but lately had really ramped up with the laziness and defiance. Trying not to fall out and ruin our last day here but in half tempted to just pack up and go.

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BumpyaDaisyevna · 25/08/2024 22:32

Himitsu · 25/08/2024 22:16

I am taking on board the advice. Parenting is bloody hard isn’t it? I’m just winging it really! I was never parented really by my parents so this is all brand new to me. We went for a stroll around the campsite this evening and she loved seeing all the old classic cars parked up outside their tents and she got chatting with some of the owners. Racing really is in her blood, I’m not forcing this on her at all. She lives and breathes cars. I would never force her to do it (would save me quite a lot of money do she didn’t!)

It is difficult.

You have to strike a balance between requiring your child to fit in to a certain degree and to best their own difficult feelings about that to a certain degree. It's not your job as parent to make sure she never feels any discomfort or frustration.

At the same time you have to be responsive and understanding. where appropriate.

Eg I would require my two to join in. However I know them well and if I could see that they were just shattered and needed down time, I would change my approach.

If however they were just being lazy and entitled- they have to fit in and join in.

Chillilounger · 25/08/2024 22:25

Yeah I would be removing privileges. No phone. No screen time when she gets home. For a week of necessary. No treats. Toddler can have them, but not her etc etc. She will cave in the end.

Runnerinthenight · 25/08/2024 22:22

At 10, none of my three would have dared to refuse to take part like this! You are going to have to get a grip on this behaviour, otherwise you are going to have an absolute nightmare of a teen on your hands!!!

It's non-negotional!!

Waffle78 · 25/08/2024 22:21

BurbageBrook · 25/08/2024 20:58

@Waffle78 wow. You sound like a nice person. Wonder how your relationship will be with your own kids when they grow up...

They are grown up I've raised 2 with severe autism and ADHD and epilepsy on my own. They can't even step out the front door alone as young adults. I never had this behaviour from them quite the opposite. They appreciate everywhere I take them. Yes I have to motivate them to get ready and go out. I know if I didn't motivate them they would just sit on the sofa not go anywhere and get lazy.

ilovesushi · 25/08/2024 22:19

Have you been able to get the bottom of why she won't leave the tent? Is she struggling with the crowds/ noise/ unfamiliarity? If she feeling insecure/ out of place? Does she genuinely feel under the weather? Is she over tired? Is it pre-teen hormones. There could be a lot going on.

CandiedPrincess · 25/08/2024 22:17

Feeling overwhelmed is not a mental disorder. So much projection these days. We have to label everyone.

Himitsu · 25/08/2024 22:16

I am taking on board the advice. Parenting is bloody hard isn’t it? I’m just winging it really! I was never parented really by my parents so this is all brand new to me. We went for a stroll around the campsite this evening and she loved seeing all the old classic cars parked up outside their tents and she got chatting with some of the owners. Racing really is in her blood, I’m not forcing this on her at all. She lives and breathes cars. I would never force her to do it (would save me quite a lot of money do she didn’t!)

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MyToesAreHotNotInaSexyWay · 25/08/2024 22:14

Laundryliar · 25/08/2024 21:47

Which means over 82 percent don't. I stand by what i said, the majority of kids this age do not have anxiety so jt shouldn't be peoples default suggestion that they do.

Even if she is acting in a way which might suggest she feels anxious? And bearing in mind that 1 in 6 children have a mental health disorder? Posters still shouldn't question if she is overwhelmed and feeling anxious??
Ok then

Swrfannies · 25/08/2024 22:00

oh gosh!

Time for reflection, I would say, how on earth has it got to the point where a 10 year old is dictating your weekend.

exert some parental control and let her know who the parent is. You are in charge not her.

TheBossOfMe · 25/08/2024 21:56

Pinkypinkyplonk · 25/08/2024 19:00

Tell her with behaviour like this karting is going to stop as she’s obviously not interested

Edited

Yes absolutely this. She either takes part whole heartedly or not at all. It’s an expensive thing to do.

edited because of fat finger typos :)

whyNotaNice · 25/08/2024 21:55

Laundryliar · 25/08/2024 21:47

Which means over 82 percent don't. I stand by what i said, the majority of kids this age do not have anxiety so jt shouldn't be peoples default suggestion that they do.

Kids or teenagers might struggle with communication, emotions, etc and this does not equate the label mental health disorder. People are free to feel and live various emotions all the while being mentally healthy also.

Mum2threexx · 25/08/2024 21:53

Whaleandsnail6 · 25/08/2024 12:18

I'd be taking her phone or whatever entertainment she is using in the tent and telling her its either sit with absolutely nothing to do in the tent or come for a walk with you.

I would also tell her that she is spoiling the day for me and if she doesnt snap out of it, then she is grounded for the rest of the week once back.

Id let her sulk around the festival but at least you would be there and not stuck in the tent. I'd completely ignore any attitude once out of the tent.

Exactly this

DeccaM · 25/08/2024 21:51

I would follow a middle path between the extremes on this thread. I wouldn't pander to sulky behaviour that is rooted in just wanting to have her own way (if that is what is happening). But I also wouldn't drag her kicking and screaming or punish her harshly. I don't see the need for punishment generally TBH, but that's a topic for another thread.

Since it seems to be a pattern she has fallen into, there probably is a reason behind it. Sorry@HimitsuI know you said that there doesn't have to be a reason. But I imagine there is one. Something stops her from wanting to engage in new activities, even if she thinks she will enjoy them. I'd try to work out what that something is. If she really sat in the tent all day doing absolutely nothing, that indicates she's struggling in some way. At the same time, I'd talk to her about being part of a family and how you want to enjoy time together. Not in an emotionally manipulative way, but just as a reminder of how important she is to the family and that you want to spend time with her.

Rowgtfc72 · 25/08/2024 21:48

Very jealous you're at that festival.
Karting is a very expensive hobby for a 10yr old and will only get more expensive as she progresses. If she's not playing ball regularly I'd be rethinking the amount of money you're throwing at this. At 10 she's old enough to understand the cost of things.

Laundryliar · 25/08/2024 21:47

MyToesAreHotNotInaSexyWay · 25/08/2024 21:40

Completely agree with this post also..

17.4% of children have a mental health disorder it's a huge problem now especially in secondary schools. So I wouldn't be so quick to discard something as common as anxiety.

Dispite the fact that she chose to go to the festival and it is to do with an activity that she usually enjoys, she doesn't want to do it. Doesn't that imply to you that she is unhappy or not coping with the situation for whatever reason?

Yes I guess it's frustrating but you can't force your child to enjoy something. An adult forced to do something they're not happy with can pretend but for a young child that would be difficult. I doubt very much that she's trying to control you, don't make it into a battle of wills.

Would people really drag their 10 year old child out of a tent?? Wow! if I saw someone doing that to child I'd want to intervene, it would be awful to witness.

Which means over 82 percent don't. I stand by what i said, the majority of kids this age do not have anxiety so jt shouldn't be peoples default suggestion that they do.

BurbageBrook · 25/08/2024 21:42

Well I have personal experience @Laundryliar of a sibling who was like this, everyone in the family thought they were being lazy. As an adult they have anxiety and depression to the point of being suicidal and under hospital care several times. I doubt it's exactly the same for this girl of course but I do think a ten year old preferring to sit in a tent all day with no tech if you read the update is not normal and there is likely something causing this.

MyToesAreHotNotInaSexyWay · 25/08/2024 21:40

Ghosttofu99 · 25/08/2024 21:35

What were the booked activities and what are her confidence levels like?

She’s 10 and primary school children often don’t know what something they think they want to do will look like in practice.

If this is her first festival maybe it was all more overwhelming and busy than she expected.

I can remember being push towards doing lots of activities that were out of my comfort zone as a kid without much support/info about how to go about and navigate them.

Just because she likes doing one activity regularly at home at the same location every time doesn’t mean it will feel the same. I’m guessing there is mostly adults at this festival too?

Completely agree with this post also..

17.4% of children have a mental health disorder it's a huge problem now especially in secondary schools. So I wouldn't be so quick to discard something as common as anxiety.

Dispite the fact that she chose to go to the festival and it is to do with an activity that she usually enjoys, she doesn't want to do it. Doesn't that imply to you that she is unhappy or not coping with the situation for whatever reason?

Yes I guess it's frustrating but you can't force your child to enjoy something. An adult forced to do something they're not happy with can pretend but for a young child that would be difficult. I doubt very much that she's trying to control you, don't make it into a battle of wills.

Would people really drag their 10 year old child out of a tent?? Wow! if I saw someone doing that to child I'd want to intervene, it would be awful to witness.

Ghosttofu99 · 25/08/2024 21:35

What were the booked activities and what are her confidence levels like?

She’s 10 and primary school children often don’t know what something they think they want to do will look like in practice.

If this is her first festival maybe it was all more overwhelming and busy than she expected.

I can remember being push towards doing lots of activities that were out of my comfort zone as a kid without much support/info about how to go about and navigate them.

Just because she likes doing one activity regularly at home at the same location every time doesn’t mean it will feel the same. I’m guessing there is mostly adults at this festival too?

semideponent · 25/08/2024 21:33

For starters, I really sympathise, OP.

With hindsight (my kids are technically adults now) I'd say:

Don't go to a festival for DD's birthday unless you really want to and would go without her. Don't do things to "parent" that don't come (at least a bit) naturally to you in the first place.

There's probably more going on in her head than you know. Whatever you decide to do, keep an open mind about that. She needs you just as much as the 2yo.

There is no getting it right and there never will be. So in the main, follow through on what you say you'll do, Be careful what you say. Sometimes, given a bit of time and space, they rethink and apologise,

Combattingthemoaners · 25/08/2024 21:28

ErnestClementine · 25/08/2024 20:41

Poor kid. Hope she gets to go home soon. More kindness, less forced fun.

Yeah poor kid…..going on a trip she requested for her birthday. It probably cost the parents a fortune and has taken loads of planning. Such trauma. The replies on here are mental!

Combattingthemoaners · 25/08/2024 21:24

I’d tell her she’s ten years old, you’re the adult and she does what you say. End of.

whyNotaNice · 25/08/2024 21:21

whyNotaNice · 25/08/2024 21:18

I actually wanted to use this word but thought they will delete my post also

I always observe kids and families on holidays: I have never seen a kid crying or pulling away from a beach, a rock pool, an ice cream van or the like. I don't know what forced fun your daughter thought she will like, but apparently was something she actually dislikes and is not ready for such social gatherings.

whyNotaNice · 25/08/2024 21:18

ErnestClementine · 25/08/2024 20:41

Poor kid. Hope she gets to go home soon. More kindness, less forced fun.

I actually wanted to use this word but thought they will delete my post also

LizzieSiddal · 25/08/2024 21:17

I think all DC get fed up and moody on holidays. My lovely dad used to say to us “this holiday cost a lot of money and you will enjoy it whether you like it or not”. I’ve used it with my dc, it breaks the ice but the dc are left in no doubt that they will behave and not spoil the holiday.

whyNotaNice · 25/08/2024 21:16

Lesson learnt. A 10 year old does not get to decide where the whole family is going , " thinking she will like it". Next time you and your husband organise a holiday, we just came from one. The usual stuff, beach, walks, visits to places, there are families everywhere with kids, the kids just tag along and run around, play games, eat ice cream.