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To get a teensy bit annoyed at visiting relative’s ever changing dietary restrictions?

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Koulibiak · 25/08/2024 00:18

Okay some ground rules: this is light hearted. Not a LTB thread. All of us will keep on trying to get along as best we can. But…

Recently we’ve been hosting a relative of DH with lots of dietary restrictions, which she informed us of prior to coming to stay with us (for two weeks). Specifically, no sour foods, no spicy foods, and no tomatoes. For religious/cultural reasons she also doesn’t eat pork or beef.

To be clear, I asked and she specifically said she couldn’t have anything containing citrus, vinegar, yogurt, sour cream, or tamarind. Also no tomatoes or anything hot (chillies).

Now I’ve got to say, I’m a very decent cook. But I have been finding the whole sour/spicy/tomatoes thing rather hard to accommodate. This rules out lots of Chinese, Indian, Japanese, Middle Eastern, Italian, Mexican, Persian etc recipes. I had to spend hours prior to her coming, going through my recipes and making changes so I would make things she could eat.

Then towards the end of her stay, she told me she was fine with “a bit” of lemon, a bit of tomatoes, a bit of chilli. I’m sorry what? I’ve been working my ass off accommodating her for two weeks, making all our food bland, and all of a sudden she’s fine with spices and yogurt and lemon juice? She even asked me to cook prawns with lemon and chilli powder on her last meal. Also ate dal (as a side dish) which I warned had dried chillies in, and had seconds.

I just think it’s a bit thoughtless to invent dietary restrictions you don’t actually have. It’s been stressful for me and I haven’t been able to serve them the best dishes I can make, as everything had to be made bland, and it now seems it was all pointless anyway.

In order to avoid drip feed accusations: DH doesn’t cook. At all. As in, can’t turn the hob on. So any suggestions that I should let DH cook for his relative are pointless. And no, he’s not going to change, as he was rubbish at it and found it very stressful when he cooked (years ago), whereas I’m good at it and it makes me happy to feed people.

I’m just a bit frazzled after two weeks of hosting, and I need a whinge. ☺️

AIBU to think making up blanket food restrictions is not on, when you’re actually fine with the foods?

Oh and yes the relative is MIL. But please let’s not make this a MIL thread 🙏

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CurlewKate · 25/08/2024 06:57

I would have just cooked for her in the way we cooked for DP's very traditional Irish dad. Very plain meat/fish two veg and always potatoes. And always garnished with a bit of cress so he could complain (with a twinkle because he knew we were teasing) about "rabbit food"
@Koulibiak I have tried sitting on my hands, but I can't stop myself. Of course your DP can cook. Of COURSE he can.

Dibbydoos · 25/08/2024 06:18

When I read the start of your post @Koulibiak I thought fish and chips, pie and mash, cheese and onion quiche with salad no tommies, mince and onion with rice and veg, veg soup and cheesy garlic bread etc. Loads of food meets the dietary specification.

Honestly the menu doesn't need to be what you normally cook minus the fussiness.

But you pushed the boat out (well done btw) and now they finding it bland... did your DH tell her what food you normally cook and describe it as spicy so she restricted the ingredients?

It wouldn't p me off, but then I haven't gone out of my way to change my recipes....

3LemonsAndLime · 25/08/2024 06:13

if I was in your situation, I would cook my usual meals for everyone else, and an adapted version for MIL. Eg chicken curry for everyone, plain chicken, plain rice and plain vegetables for MIL. Or normal cooking for everyone and something simple, yet fits diet requirements for MIL, so as not to overly feel like you are spending time cooking 2 meals. Eg omelette with fillings, jacket potato with fillings, in both cases fillings being ingredients you
are putting in your own main meal.

I’d then be judging the situation accordingly. If MIL mentioned her food was repetitive or bland, I’d ask for some of her recipes (as you’ve done in the past) and say you’ll make it the next night. Or MIL might show interest in the main meal and say she’ll have that - in which case you’ll know that’s a meal she can eat. Finally, she may just accept what you are serving her, in which case you’ll know you’ve got it right.

I’ll add - if she was staying for 1-2 nights, I’d probably try and have one meal for everyone. But for 2 weeks, I’d be doing the above plan.

Sundayz · 25/08/2024 06:01

Great idea about jacket potatoes!

Next time, some days cook as you usually would (still avoid pork/ beef) and do her a jacket potato with beans/ cheese etc and see what she eats....

mitogoshi · 25/08/2024 05:59

Next time she comes I suggest making a chicken and vegetable risotto, paprika chicken, with peppers, butternut squash, garlic and new potatoes, try chicken(or better salmon if she'll eat it) with a soy, honey and ginger sauce plus rice top with chopped spring onions and sesame seeds if she can eat. Chickpea patties with hummus in pitta and saad with pomegranate and feta.

GRex · 25/08/2024 05:54

Netaporter · 25/08/2024 05:15

to me it reads as if your MIL doesn’t like your food (probably because you are making something to please her palate) so is trying to manipulate what you cook. I would make your normal food then make her what you know she will eat but make the same thing every day. That way you get to make your best dishes (which she is welcome to try) and she gets to eat what she wants. I’d wager after 3 days of the prawns she’ll be wolfing down your food….

I had a friend like this. She had disordered eating but wouldn’t admit it so rather than say ‘I won’t have a pudding’ she would invent gluten/dairy intolerances. Didn’t stop her eating all the dairy milk, ice cream and biscuits when she though no one was looking though 😂 Drove me mad.

Lactose issues can mean an issue with cream or milk, plus cream in dishes. Chocolate, cheap ice cream (not real cream) and anything cooked like cake or biscuits would still be fine. I think you misunderstood your friend's issues rather than it being "disordered eating" (an extreme term to use, usually reserved for anorexia etc).

GhostFaen · 25/08/2024 05:53

Ponderingwindow · 25/08/2024 00:41

if your mil isn’t making this all up, what her list has in common is that they are all fall under the balsam of Peru categorization.

each of us who has that allergy is able to tolerate different foods from the group to different degrees. For example, I can have lime juice, but just being near lemon zest will trigger anaphylaxis.

it’s extremely difficult to explain to someone else preparing food for you. It’s also difficult because manufacturers are not required to list many of the ingredients explicitly on labels. They can end up under things as “natural flavors” or “spices”. That means every time you eat something, even if you have had it before, it can be a risk because the ingredients may have changed.

reaching out to companies is pretty much worthless. Many of them don’t even know what they have sourced from other manufacturers.

I have a very long list of foods I can’t eat. I still eat really tasty food at home, but when eating out my meals do tend to have to be very plain. I am absolutely sick of eating Caesar salads without croutons. Yet they are one of the few things on a menu I know are likely to be safe and a restaurant can generally make a meal sized portion even if they normally only serve a side salad. I can’t have the croutons because the push for multigrain means they might have oats.

Caesar salad dressing traditionally has lemon juice in it, so please be careful when ordering it.

Bjorkdidit · 25/08/2024 05:49

Is this the first time she's been to stay and is this likely to be a regular occurrence? If so, you need to make changes to avoid this sort of thing in future.

Does she have other children who live near you and do they have any ideas about how to accommodate her dietary requirements with the least stress?

Between the three of you, because DH can act as translator if nothing else, agree 3 or 4 meals she can eat within her dietary restrictions and serve that food on rotation, batch cook if necessary. You don't have to serve the same meals as everyone else when it's so different to what you normally eat. He needs to tell her that you want to serve her food she will enjoy but between the two of them they need to tell you what it is and how to make it.

Does she eat things like soup and eggs? Can she go through the Cook website with DH and they order food she can eat?

mitogoshi · 25/08/2024 05:49

Btw that list I've been warned to restrict along with onions - by dr! I actually ignore it myself, I'm not giving up onions especially but I'm away somewhere where it's basically meat or fish and veg every night (another country) and I've had no digestive problems unlike at home, perhaps dr is right Confused

semideponent · 25/08/2024 05:48

It sounds like she was (perhaps without realising it) testing you and you passed with flying colours, She will eat your food now.

mitogoshi · 25/08/2024 05:46

I have really restrictive options for my parents (thankfully they live fairly close so rarely stay for more than 2 days at a time), I just cook traditional English eg roast meat and veg, quiche and salad, pasta dishes, they will eat paella and other European dishes. I also include things they say they don't eat but give English names/pretend an ingredient isn't in it so they eat it!

As long as someone isn't allergic nor avoids for religious reasons/vegetarian, I would just cook it, if people want you to cook I wouldn't sweat it

Netaporter · 25/08/2024 05:15

to me it reads as if your MIL doesn’t like your food (probably because you are making something to please her palate) so is trying to manipulate what you cook. I would make your normal food then make her what you know she will eat but make the same thing every day. That way you get to make your best dishes (which she is welcome to try) and she gets to eat what she wants. I’d wager after 3 days of the prawns she’ll be wolfing down your food….

I had a friend like this. She had disordered eating but wouldn’t admit it so rather than say ‘I won’t have a pudding’ she would invent gluten/dairy intolerances. Didn’t stop her eating all the dairy milk, ice cream and biscuits when she though no one was looking though 😂 Drove me mad.

GRex · 25/08/2024 04:39

I don't know why you and your DH needed to eat the bland food. We quite often cook cashews, ginger and chillies in a separate pan anyway for dishes like Korma so that they stay crispy sprinkled on top. Why couldn't you cook, serve her, then add fried chillies and ginger plus some lime if necessary to your portions? Chicken wraps with just you and DH getting a hot sauce. Fried chicken on salad and she can have a different dressing if needed. Baked potato but everyone has different toppings that suit.

Maybe it's an Indian cooking thing, but I'm not really sure why you couldn't just swap other ingredients without it creating difficulty in your recipes. We have a lot of tomatoes, but peppers or lentils can work depending on whether you want the sweetness or wetness.

Webbymeister · 25/08/2024 04:25

*mate. Your husband can cook

PeloMom · 25/08/2024 04:21

Could she have acid reflux and able to tolerate the items only once in a while in limited quantities?

ThatOneUncomfortableEyelash · 25/08/2024 04:18

FoxtrotOscarKindaDay · 25/08/2024 00:24

Two weeks of baked potatoes would have stopped it. Don't bend over backwards to accommodate, just make a bland alternative that complies with all dietary needs.

If they are genuine they will be happy, otherwise they should be offering to cook a few times themselves.

To be fair that's not massively restrictive though.

If they are genuine they will be happy

I have to follow a restricted diet (proper no-contamination gluten-free diet, with low sugar). And while I see what you're saying, TBH I'm still a human being, and my genuineness wouldn't mean I automatically felt thrilled at the prospect of nothing but baked potatoes for two weeks solid.

I generally try not to inflict my dietary requirements on other people wherever possible, because it's an absolute pain in the arse and I don't trust most people to do it properly. When I do have to stay with family, I have my partner cook sometimes, or miss out bits of a meal (and maybe sub parts with alternatives I can have).

But if someone offered to host me, and then every time that I didn't cook the meal myself they just slapped a baked potato in front of me while everyone else got varied delicious meals, I'm not sure I would feel "happy" — I think I might feel confused and a little sad that even knowing my dietary restrictions they'd offered to host me, but didn't want to include me (and also bored by all the baked potatoes Grin)

I'm not saying that anyone is obligated to go above and beyond, and I would of course be appreciative that they were at least offering me safe food, but I'd take it as a clear message that they didn't want to expend the extra effort to include me, and also probably that they didn't want to host me again. That's fine TBH — I recognise my dietary needs are an imposition and somewhat onerous, which is why I don't stay with people or eat at other people's houses much 😅

RubyOrca · 25/08/2024 04:16

My solution has been to ask for one thing they can eat for first meal - and then take them shopping. Carefully reading through every ingredient list is exhausting - they usually know what they can and can’t eat (doesn’t work if they’re international as brands differ).

I can understand why this is really frustrating. But if she can tolerate some but not too much that’s really hard to explain to someone else - none is the easier thing to say.

I have food intolerances - if I stay below the threshold I’ll be fine. Except the way I tell if I pass the threshold is if I get sick. My solution is not to experiment when with people who are accommodating my dietary needs. Even if this does mean eating the yuck option when is likely be fine with the alternative.

Your MIL shouldn’t have started eating stuff she said no to just because it’s confusing and hard for you to get right. Assuming your husband speaks his mother’s language, he needs to have a conversation about food before her next visit - just in case this is all a language misunderstanding.

MrsCatE · 25/08/2024 03:45

@Koulibiak that would drive me bonkers. I'd just ensure bread, fruit, cereal was available and make your DH responsible for anything else i.e take out / restaurants - within a budget. Or, as others have said, make her cook! I would lavishly praise any results but liberally spice up with chilli, lemon etc. I'll DM you with my chilli tamarind chutney recipe!

RawBloomers · 25/08/2024 02:17

Oh my God, OP, that would drive me barmy!

I can kind of see why someone who was pretty fussy about food might think it's easier to say they don't eat a long list of things rather than say well I'm okay with lemon juice and chili powder on prawns if it's done in this way, but not if it's done in that way. And I like tomatoes in a very specific pasta dish but most tomatoey pasta dishes make me gag, etc. But it would definitely drive barmy. I have a friend who tells me she'll eat anything but she actually eats next to nothing and that's frustrating too as all the food just gets pushed around her plate, but she swears it's no problem!

It's only two weeks, and it's (nearly?) done now, and it sounds like she's otherwise lovely(?) So things could be worse. Just plan the spiciest, most flavourful Thali when she's gone and savour it.

Pettyhangingbaskets · 25/08/2024 02:10

Stop pandering to this nonsense, point her to the nearest supermarket and let her cook for herself

Ponderingwindow · 25/08/2024 01:59

when you start to look, you discover tomato everywhere. It’s one of my top allergens. I would like to go back in time and assassinate whoever invented tomato powder. It’s even showing up in cheese at this point.

SeaToSki · 25/08/2024 01:36

I do a lot of hosting for a business group, the number of them who put food preferences on their rsvps and then turn up and tuck into the general dishes whilst ignoring the carefully prepared individual portion of whatever that is gluten, pork and dairy free (or whatever). It does my nut in! I take pride in providing tasty varied food that people can enjoy and some people just take the piss with their diets. True allergies and intolerances arent to be messed with and those that make shit up put true sufferers at risk.

Gensola · 25/08/2024 01:20

I had this with an in law who came to stay for a week while we were both working full time, who said they couldn’t have: gluten, dairy, meat, fish or sugar. I bent over backwards making vegan, gluten free food, then on the last day we went to a restaurant and they ordered a massive pudding stuffed full of gluten, dairy and sugar and ate it with a smug smile. I almost exploded.

Koulibiak · 25/08/2024 01:11

Thank you @theduchessofspork

I actually spent an hour in M&S one day trying to find something suitable for dinner. You’d be amazed at the number of dishes that contain lemon juice, vinegar, tomato purée or yogurt! I guess because the sour taste is important to balance other tastes. In the end I found it easier to cook from scratch than go through endless lists of ingredients.

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Koulibiak · 25/08/2024 01:05

FoxtrotOscarKindaDay · 25/08/2024 00:59

That sounds like a you problem. I have food intolerances and allergies, I don't think my food is bland but I wouldn't eat excessively spicy food and your list of extensive cultures of food sounds over the top.

Your MIL maybe just has milder tastes and finds you use too much spice or tomatoes or whatever else so it's easier to say none. You could easily have accommodated her with baked potatoes or something similar without much effort. She's not the unreasonable one here especially if she doesn't speak English well.

Okay I will reflect on that, but to be clear MIL is Indian and her favourite dishes are generally when I cook Indian food (or Japanese/Chinese/Malaysian). I don’t think she likes bland food generally. I’ve never seen her eat a baked potato, or even chips.

My “extensive list” is just what we eat at home on a daily basis.

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