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To get a teensy bit annoyed at visiting relative’s ever changing dietary restrictions?

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Koulibiak · 25/08/2024 00:18

Okay some ground rules: this is light hearted. Not a LTB thread. All of us will keep on trying to get along as best we can. But…

Recently we’ve been hosting a relative of DH with lots of dietary restrictions, which she informed us of prior to coming to stay with us (for two weeks). Specifically, no sour foods, no spicy foods, and no tomatoes. For religious/cultural reasons she also doesn’t eat pork or beef.

To be clear, I asked and she specifically said she couldn’t have anything containing citrus, vinegar, yogurt, sour cream, or tamarind. Also no tomatoes or anything hot (chillies).

Now I’ve got to say, I’m a very decent cook. But I have been finding the whole sour/spicy/tomatoes thing rather hard to accommodate. This rules out lots of Chinese, Indian, Japanese, Middle Eastern, Italian, Mexican, Persian etc recipes. I had to spend hours prior to her coming, going through my recipes and making changes so I would make things she could eat.

Then towards the end of her stay, she told me she was fine with “a bit” of lemon, a bit of tomatoes, a bit of chilli. I’m sorry what? I’ve been working my ass off accommodating her for two weeks, making all our food bland, and all of a sudden she’s fine with spices and yogurt and lemon juice? She even asked me to cook prawns with lemon and chilli powder on her last meal. Also ate dal (as a side dish) which I warned had dried chillies in, and had seconds.

I just think it’s a bit thoughtless to invent dietary restrictions you don’t actually have. It’s been stressful for me and I haven’t been able to serve them the best dishes I can make, as everything had to be made bland, and it now seems it was all pointless anyway.

In order to avoid drip feed accusations: DH doesn’t cook. At all. As in, can’t turn the hob on. So any suggestions that I should let DH cook for his relative are pointless. And no, he’s not going to change, as he was rubbish at it and found it very stressful when he cooked (years ago), whereas I’m good at it and it makes me happy to feed people.

I’m just a bit frazzled after two weeks of hosting, and I need a whinge. ☺️

AIBU to think making up blanket food restrictions is not on, when you’re actually fine with the foods?

Oh and yes the relative is MIL. But please let’s not make this a MIL thread 🙏

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Koulibiak · 25/08/2024 16:45

@Allthegoodnamesarechosen thank you! MIL is herself a doctor, FIL is a doctor, all their friends are doctors. She is receiving care for her various conditions and taking lots of different medications. I’d be very surprised if thyroid issues had not been explored.

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Elsvieta · 25/08/2024 16:40

Serve up meat and potatoes, spag bol and very mild curries for a couple of weeks, and next time round, DON'T ASK HER what she wants. If she has any genuine allergies, accommodate that obviously, but otherwise just cook what you're cooking, maybe just dialling down the spiciness a bit, and don't worry about it. If she moans tell her where the bread and sandwich fillings are. She sounds infuriating.

Alternatively, maybe tell her she's welcome to cook?

AlarminglyAwful · 25/08/2024 15:35

I once had my cousin and her partner round for dinner and accommodated her no onion, no tomato, no chilli etc. diet. Only for her to sit eating onion bhajis!

Berlinlover · 25/08/2024 15:31

I have an ileostomy and an extremely limited diet. Wherever I go I just organise my own food.

DrFosterWentToGloucester23 · 25/08/2024 15:29

Webbymeister · 25/08/2024 14:50

Why is no one challenged the OP on the fact that her husband seems to be unable to do basic cooking?

imagine a woman saying that

Because that wasn’t the AIBU? Maybe he brings other strengths to the table? DIY, car maintenance, school pick ups/drop offs, taxiing teens around 🤷‍♀️ Equal doesn’t mean 50% of every chore.

Webbymeister · 25/08/2024 14:50

Why is no one challenged the OP on the fact that her husband seems to be unable to do basic cooking?

imagine a woman saying that

Finistereoverthere · 25/08/2024 13:51

Koulibiak · 25/08/2024 11:33

@Finistereoverthere the bedding protest made me laugh. MIL also used to have bedding issues, but now their room has every kind of bedding known to man, including a heated mattress topper in summer because she’s always cold - so the demands have stopped.

Thank you to everyone who suggested recipes, all very helpful. I will add new things to my recipe app’s “in laws” tab.

I have concluded that I was BU after re reading my posts. It’s obvious MIL is not trying to be capricious or difficult, she’s really got a dodgy tum - unlike some of the relatives and friends mentioned by various posters who are just attention seeking. She is also a gracious guest, rarely complains and is generally complimentary of anything I make (except steamed veg!).

It’s just that it requires more imagination on my part. E.g. no yogurt rules out lots of curries, no tomatoes rules out many stews and Italian dishes, no vinegar rules out teriyaki chicken, no lemon juice rules out lots of fish dishes, marinades and dressings, etc. Add to that no pork, beef or mushrooms, it does reduce the pool of dishes that I can make. I think if she ever stops eating onions and ginger that will tip me over the edge!

I just needed to vent last night, two weeks with guests takes a toll, we’ve also had other friends and relatives this summer so I think I’ve exhausted my hosting capabilities. Anyway, thank you all for the hand hold and/or for giving my head a wobble. 💐

😀 You sound like such a lovely dil op! Kind, generous and diplomatic. Sorry to hear your mil is genuinely ill. I hope you can work out the dietary issues and yes a fortnight is quite long enough for hosting, even when your guests are very gracious, so YANBU at all!

venusandmars · 25/08/2024 13:03

I had the opposite sitution. A friend coming to stay with dietarty restrictions - we spend ages emailing back and forth about things I planned to cook and how I could adjust them. I was all set, food planned, shopping done. Then when she arrived she said she'd decided to go on a cleansing diet and would only be eating fruit and water all week.

I let it go on day one, and she had fruit and water, then in the evening she went to the pub and had beer and crisps. I was quite blunt, and said if you're not sticking to fruit then I'm going to serve you the meals I have planned and prepared. She ate them all, but I've not invited her again.

RandomMess · 25/08/2024 12:38

Sounds like you can dig out the cookbooks on day 2 and ask for suggestions of what to eat, tweaking recipes to make it work.

My intolerances drive me mad but with someone cooking from scratch it's much easier to tweak recipes and leave out what I can't eat.

Skybluepinky · 25/08/2024 12:36

She hates yr cooking and enjoys making it life hell. Let her cook her own food.

IdLikeToBeAFraser · 25/08/2024 12:25

I completely understand this frustration.

It does sound like your MIL might have some general stomach issues and is scared, so tells you the most restrictive versio of her diet in advance as a pre-emptive measure, but then, over time, starts to feel a bit more confident about a bit of this or a bit of that. I think this is quite common - my mother could also have a reaction to spices etc, but would cook with them herself where she knew exactly what she was having, and how much. But it was endlessly frustrating to have her be so prescriptive and then see her happily tucking into something when we were out and about.

I did click on this thread thinking you were goign to talk about someone like one of DH's friends who announced, the day before they arrived for a long-planned celebratory dinner that actually, he's lactose free. Cue me scrambling around to change the menu (I'd planned roast chicken, served on risotto, and I forget what dessert was goign to be, but it definitly had dairy!) and am emergency run to waitrose.

Lovely new menu, including a selection of vegan ice cream. Only to find him tucking into the bar of milk chocolate I'd put out for the DC. To which is long suffering wife said, "oh, he just thinks he's got a diary allergy but doesn't seem to bother him when it's chocolate or things he likes."

I had to leave the table and go into another room for a minute.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 25/08/2024 12:24

I wish you lived near me , OP. You sound really kind ( and a good cook).

Has MIL seen a doctor about her health, though?. Because if she is a pleasant person, and not just winding you up, it sounds as if she has problems with her digestion but she doesn’t know what is causing it. So she ‘blames’ things she has eaten when she has an upset , but they might not be the cause, so if she does have them, the next time she doesn’t have the reaction. I haven’t explained that very well but I expect you can understand what I mean.

She is obviously frail ( can’t lift heavy pans, stopped cooking), but the odd food behaviour and the feeling cold would bear proper investigation.

SensibleSigma · 25/08/2024 12:22

Sounds like my DH. Quickly learned to stop telling him what he was eating as the list of things he didn’t eat was so long!

DM made us traipse around town to meet her requirements one visit, turning everywhere down till I was ready to eat her! That evening when I’d cooked her a ‘dairy free, oil free, something else free’ meal, she helped herself to some of ours that had cheese sprinkled in and left us short.

some people are just rude! 🤣

twilightcafe · 25/08/2024 12:20

Plain rice. Plain naan. Dhal with the bare minimum of spices.

Koulibiak · 25/08/2024 12:19

@CrunchyCarrot i think her being cold in the UK is more a consequence of the fact she lives in a place that regularly gets 40+ temperatures and is over 30C for about 10 months of the year. But she has a whole host of medical diagnoses, so hypothyroidism may well be one of them.

@ohtowinthelottery ha ha, DH also claims he doesn’t like garlic or mustard, but I ignore him and we go through vast amounts, without him even noticing it. Really what he means is he doesn’t like garlic bread, or mustard in a sandwich. Not as a cooking ingredient. Likewise horseradish, he won’t have it as a condiment with steak, but is fine with it in smoked mackerel pâté.

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Bellahadthese · 25/08/2024 12:19

Just had a friend visit who said no chocolate she didn't want for example pain au chocolate so I got her crossaints. The first thing she said when she sat down to breakfast was 'Do you have any Nutella?'
People are just nuts

KnittedCardi · 25/08/2024 12:13

I eat quite a plain diet by choice. Just give her pan fried chicken/fish with veg or salad. Job done.

BCSurvivor · 25/08/2024 12:13

I would hand over cooking responsibilities to the guest for a few days.
Particularly as her restrictions keep changing.
It would be interesting to see if she adds any of these no go foods but maybe just a little bit items when she's doing her own cooking, as I think she's taking advantage.

ohtowinthelottery · 25/08/2024 12:05

My DF wouldn't eat anything with garlic or onions in. In his latter years, he and DM mainly ate M&S ready meals. After DF died, I was at DMs house. She put one of their regular ready meals in the oven to cook. I popped out to get something for me, DH & DB to eat. Upon my return I'll never forget the smell of garlic in the porch which was emanating from the ready meal in the oven. I still chuckle about it 10 years on.
I'm always happy to cater for allergies and intolerances and even make an effort for 'fussy' eaters but in my experience, adding a drop of lemon juice, a clove of garlic, a splash of vinegar into the cooking, is unlikely to cause any issues for the 'fussy' group and they won't even know it's there.

Wwyd2025 · 25/08/2024 11:49

I would of made her beans on toast all week.

CrunchyCarrot · 25/08/2024 11:48

So a bit of an 'aha' moment - you say your MIL is always cold and has a dodgy tum - could she be undiagnosed hypothyroid? Those are both symptoms. There are a lot more of course. Low stomach acid is common which makes digesting food difficult.

I'm hypothyroid and have various food intolerances, plus developed a bad gluten reaction last year so now have to be scrupulously gluten free. I would dread going to eat at someone's house, in fact I'd take my own food, I think!

rookiemere · 25/08/2024 11:39

Why don't you just ask her what she eats at home, suggest she cooks a couple of nights as well so she's got dishes she is comfortable with - she could make extra portions.

MrsSkylerWhite · 25/08/2024 11:37

Perfect illustration of why not to have house guests.

Jesss21 · 25/08/2024 11:36

I just read your Title and immediately thought of Davey in The Pursuit of Love:)

Koulibiak · 25/08/2024 11:33

@Finistereoverthere the bedding protest made me laugh. MIL also used to have bedding issues, but now their room has every kind of bedding known to man, including a heated mattress topper in summer because she’s always cold - so the demands have stopped.

Thank you to everyone who suggested recipes, all very helpful. I will add new things to my recipe app’s “in laws” tab.

I have concluded that I was BU after re reading my posts. It’s obvious MIL is not trying to be capricious or difficult, she’s really got a dodgy tum - unlike some of the relatives and friends mentioned by various posters who are just attention seeking. She is also a gracious guest, rarely complains and is generally complimentary of anything I make (except steamed veg!).

It’s just that it requires more imagination on my part. E.g. no yogurt rules out lots of curries, no tomatoes rules out many stews and Italian dishes, no vinegar rules out teriyaki chicken, no lemon juice rules out lots of fish dishes, marinades and dressings, etc. Add to that no pork, beef or mushrooms, it does reduce the pool of dishes that I can make. I think if she ever stops eating onions and ginger that will tip me over the edge!

I just needed to vent last night, two weeks with guests takes a toll, we’ve also had other friends and relatives this summer so I think I’ve exhausted my hosting capabilities. Anyway, thank you all for the hand hold and/or for giving my head a wobble. 💐

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