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To get a teensy bit annoyed at visiting relative’s ever changing dietary restrictions?

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Koulibiak · 25/08/2024 00:18

Okay some ground rules: this is light hearted. Not a LTB thread. All of us will keep on trying to get along as best we can. But…

Recently we’ve been hosting a relative of DH with lots of dietary restrictions, which she informed us of prior to coming to stay with us (for two weeks). Specifically, no sour foods, no spicy foods, and no tomatoes. For religious/cultural reasons she also doesn’t eat pork or beef.

To be clear, I asked and she specifically said she couldn’t have anything containing citrus, vinegar, yogurt, sour cream, or tamarind. Also no tomatoes or anything hot (chillies).

Now I’ve got to say, I’m a very decent cook. But I have been finding the whole sour/spicy/tomatoes thing rather hard to accommodate. This rules out lots of Chinese, Indian, Japanese, Middle Eastern, Italian, Mexican, Persian etc recipes. I had to spend hours prior to her coming, going through my recipes and making changes so I would make things she could eat.

Then towards the end of her stay, she told me she was fine with “a bit” of lemon, a bit of tomatoes, a bit of chilli. I’m sorry what? I’ve been working my ass off accommodating her for two weeks, making all our food bland, and all of a sudden she’s fine with spices and yogurt and lemon juice? She even asked me to cook prawns with lemon and chilli powder on her last meal. Also ate dal (as a side dish) which I warned had dried chillies in, and had seconds.

I just think it’s a bit thoughtless to invent dietary restrictions you don’t actually have. It’s been stressful for me and I haven’t been able to serve them the best dishes I can make, as everything had to be made bland, and it now seems it was all pointless anyway.

In order to avoid drip feed accusations: DH doesn’t cook. At all. As in, can’t turn the hob on. So any suggestions that I should let DH cook for his relative are pointless. And no, he’s not going to change, as he was rubbish at it and found it very stressful when he cooked (years ago), whereas I’m good at it and it makes me happy to feed people.

I’m just a bit frazzled after two weeks of hosting, and I need a whinge. ☺️

AIBU to think making up blanket food restrictions is not on, when you’re actually fine with the foods?

Oh and yes the relative is MIL. But please let’s not make this a MIL thread 🙏

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Mynewsofa · 31/08/2024 09:26

Tell her to bring her own food.

I have no patience with individuals who abuse peoples good nature and the fact that many people suffer genuine allergies, to force others to accomodate their ever-changing preferences or indulge their latest diet.

Cut out all the drama and she brings her own food.

VickyEadieofThigh · 30/08/2024 20:36

When we lived abroad, an older friend came to stay and complained that we served her meat and she preferred not to eat it. So we cooked vegetarian meals from then on.

On her last day we took her out to a restaurant and my partner went in advance to check that they had a good range of choice. They told her that in addition to the menu items they'd be pleased to offer some special dishes to our friend.

Yes, you've guessed. We got there and she ordered lamb... We felt like prize twats.

strungouteyes · 30/08/2024 20:29

I'm lactose intolerant but can eat SOME dairy so it's probably truthful... However I'd have said that upfront, like "I can't manage Mac and cheese or a creamy curry, but a small amount of dairy is fine" not expected it to be treated like a full on milk allergy.

Fixx · 27/08/2024 17:22

Next time just give her the kettle and a pot noodle 🤣 what a thoughtless bitch!

MirandaJH · 27/08/2024 10:57

My “vegan” sister once stayed for a week so I told her she’d need to bring her own food and cook for herself. Even though my husband is a chef, I thought “why should we eat vegan food, or have my husband cook two meals PLUS provide free food on top of her staying there for free?”
The funny thing was, one meal she cooked herself real chicken and every single morning she had eggs for breakfast. But tried to make me feel bad for having so much cheese in my fridge!
She’s no longer a vegan yet proceeds to call herself an “ethical human” even though I’m the one who buys cruelty free products only and shop at a refill shop. She does neither yet tried judging me for not using reusable nappies the other week! 🙄

BunnyLake · 27/08/2024 10:16

Could you have made your normal food and made something bland for her (which would require very little effort). Eg a curry for you and spaghetti sprinkled with olive oil and Parmesan for her, for part of the visit at least?

I think it would have been easier to have a list of things she can eat rather than can’t.

I wouldn’t be in a hurry to repeat the visit but if you had to then maybe she should bring a bag of ingredients she can eat and cook for herself sometimes.

What about Korma, that’s pretty bland.

HappySquid · 27/08/2024 09:01

OP, I would happily eat at your house any day - your cooking sounds delicious. I cook some of the same recipes you've mentioned (less so at the moment with a toddler but when I have the time, I really enjoy it) and I think it sounds really tricky to accommodate those specific restrictions, although I agree with the pp who said perhaps it's difficult for your guest to have too much/manage the balance of those things rather than having an outright intolerance per se. Regardless, it sounds like you have a lovely relationship with her and I think she's fortunate to have what sounds like a lovely time with you all. I hope you get some rest now that your guesting duties are over for a while!

CharlotteRumpling · 27/08/2024 07:48

Ha Indian MILs won't eat ready meals! The audacity!😂My MIL has never eaten a ready meal in her life or indeed anything out of a can.

Viviennemary · 27/08/2024 07:44

I would just get ready meals for her. And cook my normal stuff for the family. Can't be bothered with fussy eaters. I never accommodate them.

soupfiend · 27/08/2024 07:41

thequickbrowndog · 26/08/2024 18:32

Are they self diagnosed food restrictions by any chance? I have no sympathy for people who 'can't eat this' and 'can't eat that' out of choice. You want to be fussy? Feed yourself! Obviously allergies and intolerances are a different kettle of fish

I dont have any allergies or intolerances. But I do have acid/silent reflux, I do have gallstones and I have had WLS, so I have all manner of issues to contend with and I never know from one day to the next what I can tolerate.

Is that fussy? Is that 'self diagnosed' given that there is no set thing or way of eating.

You sound unpleasant

CharlotteRumpling · 27/08/2024 06:48

The problem is that older Indians like the OPs MIL often won't eat meat and 2 veg, baked potatoes, mac and cheese or other bland foods that people have suggested. My mum and MIL don't eat any of that. They would hate it.

So I have suggested bland Indian foods which would still have some flavour.

DogsAtDawn · 27/08/2024 06:44

OP, you sound very accommodating and like a excellent cook. However, it doesn't matter how light hearted your intent was because what you did was set a bunch of self-righteous ableists on an elderly woman with several medical issues that include stomach ones. A doctor, married to another doctor in a family of doctors no less has been accused of making things up just to try your patience.

That which disturbs me most are the posters saying to ignore what guests say because they're all just making shit up. Suggestions of hiding ingredients in a dish, that you have been warned not to give them, is dangerous to the point of evil. How many stories does there have to be of people experiencing life altering, or life ending, reactions caused by ignorant people lacing food to "prove" a family member is wrong about their intolerance, allergy or medical condition.

My own beloved late aunt had to avoid a very similar set of food stuffs. She could eat some of them in VERY tiny amounts. Loved many of them but loving them didn't stop those foods causing intense pain. She had hiatal hernia with GERD. She loved tomatoes so much that she would scrape a teeny bit of the liquid from the inside of a tomato onto a sandwich to get the taste. Even that used to cripple her with pain.

There are some nasty types on here. Let's hope ill health never teaches them a lesson as nasty as what they wish for others.

sashh · 27/08/2024 06:12

I have an exfriend who was 'allergic' to tomato seeds, she claimed she could eat tomatoes but not the seeds. She was, surprisingly able to eat my home made tomato chutney which I warned her has seeds in.

CharlotteRumpling · 27/08/2024 05:09

But I would suggest:

khichdi
dahi chawal
Gujarati kadhi
idlis sans sambar
dosa ditto
basically bland "sick" food with no spice or tomato.

CharlotteRumpling · 27/08/2024 05:02

Koulibiak · 25/08/2024 01:05

Okay I will reflect on that, but to be clear MIL is Indian and her favourite dishes are generally when I cook Indian food (or Japanese/Chinese/Malaysian). I don’t think she likes bland food generally. I’ve never seen her eat a baked potato, or even chips.

My “extensive list” is just what we eat at home on a daily basis.

When I read the first post, I said this MIL and DH are Indian. And I was right ( I am too). No other culture would be so demanding and expect so much of their DIL.
But what sort of Indian doesn't eat chili or yoghurt or tamarind or lemon?

Apropos, how would your DH manage if you were away or ill if he can't even turn the hob on?

NotpregnantPluto · 27/08/2024 04:52

Koulibiak · 25/08/2024 00:54

Actually no he can’t drive a car, he has physical limitations and I accept him for who he is.

Also MIL is quite frail and lifting heavy pots (most of mine are creuset types) is just impossible for her.

A lot of posters are still harping on about the DH not being able to cook.

OP has very clearly said he has physical limitations.
OP you sound like a hero being so caring to your MIL and whilst also presumably carrying out a caring role for your DH.

Ineedcoffee2021 · 27/08/2024 02:15

Staying at our house? Eat whats made or get your own food

Im no short order cook who wants to make the same thing several different ways or have a whole new meal just for 1 person

DrCoconut · 27/08/2024 01:01

@SeaToSki you are right. People with made up or faddy "intolerances" ruin things for those with a real health issue. So many places they just roll their eyes and don't really take it seriously now due to people making a huge fuss, getting a special meal made and then eating all their supposed allergens.

InSpainTheRain · 27/08/2024 00:16

Cook what you normally have. If it doesn't suit her then she can help herself to scrambled eggs on toast or whatever you have - but she cooks it. MIL decided to drop the news she was vegetarian a few hours before Xmas day when all the shopping had been done. DH told her she could have roast turkey and all the trimmings or help herself to whatever she found on the fridge. She meekly ate it.

Koulibiak · 26/08/2024 23:54

Can I just say thank you to everyone who said my food sounds fine 😊 I didn’t really start cooking until a few years ago but I love it. Owing to our roots/tastes we do have a wide diet. I’m lucky that I have access to great Asian markets nearby which really helps with sourcing ingredients. PILs were quite surprised when I made fish in banana leaves… so simple if you can source the leaves, but it looks celebratory and smells wonderful while it cooks.

I’m blessed with adventurous, unfussy teen DCs and DH, and dinner is always a big moment where we all come together. DCs are also starting to flex their cooking muscle and have been cooking and baking together this summer, which is great.

It’s not all highfalutin - I’m equally happy with a plate of nachos on the sofa 🤭 and despite my username I’ve yet to attempt a coulibiac.

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mumatlast14 · 26/08/2024 23:49

Intolerance/allergy can hit at any time sadly...and menopause can also trigger them. I have a family member who would happily eat anything, but is now finding foods are becoming a problem and could be histamine intolerance. It's been really difficult to get a GP to test and keeps being told to just try cutting out foods to help alleviate symptoms. It's hard, particularly when the person has previously had no problems eating a wide variety of foods. Quite sad to see the lack of understanding from some here. Sounds like you have a good relationship with your MIL, maybe it's something you could chat more about to help understand - and your cooking skills may be able to help her with menu options. I know my relative being unable to tolerate tomatoes is very difficult when you realise how much they are used in recipes so they end up occasionally eating something with tomatoes for the sake of others while hoping they don't get a really bad reaction.

Ladymeade · 26/08/2024 21:31

Two weeks?! Oh my life....... "House guests are like fish - on the third day they stink"

Can your guest not stay for a shorter period perhaps? Would certainly make the catering much easier!

spanieleyes22 · 26/08/2024 19:30

Wow OP I would love to come for dinner at your house you sound like a yummy cook

Packetofcrispsplease · 26/08/2024 19:23

I don’t eat citrus , pineapple ,very tomatoey foods or really spicy foods .
I’d get reflux , digestive issues and a skin flare up .
It is possible I have histamine intolerance 🤔 I don’t drink alcohol either especially wine 🍷
I can eat many dishes , French 🇫🇷 Italian 🇮🇹 , Japanese 🇯🇵 , mild Indian foods 🇮🇳 , lovely meals like salmon and watercress sauce

MustWeDoThis · 26/08/2024 18:40

Koulibiak · 25/08/2024 00:18

Okay some ground rules: this is light hearted. Not a LTB thread. All of us will keep on trying to get along as best we can. But…

Recently we’ve been hosting a relative of DH with lots of dietary restrictions, which she informed us of prior to coming to stay with us (for two weeks). Specifically, no sour foods, no spicy foods, and no tomatoes. For religious/cultural reasons she also doesn’t eat pork or beef.

To be clear, I asked and she specifically said she couldn’t have anything containing citrus, vinegar, yogurt, sour cream, or tamarind. Also no tomatoes or anything hot (chillies).

Now I’ve got to say, I’m a very decent cook. But I have been finding the whole sour/spicy/tomatoes thing rather hard to accommodate. This rules out lots of Chinese, Indian, Japanese, Middle Eastern, Italian, Mexican, Persian etc recipes. I had to spend hours prior to her coming, going through my recipes and making changes so I would make things she could eat.

Then towards the end of her stay, she told me she was fine with “a bit” of lemon, a bit of tomatoes, a bit of chilli. I’m sorry what? I’ve been working my ass off accommodating her for two weeks, making all our food bland, and all of a sudden she’s fine with spices and yogurt and lemon juice? She even asked me to cook prawns with lemon and chilli powder on her last meal. Also ate dal (as a side dish) which I warned had dried chillies in, and had seconds.

I just think it’s a bit thoughtless to invent dietary restrictions you don’t actually have. It’s been stressful for me and I haven’t been able to serve them the best dishes I can make, as everything had to be made bland, and it now seems it was all pointless anyway.

In order to avoid drip feed accusations: DH doesn’t cook. At all. As in, can’t turn the hob on. So any suggestions that I should let DH cook for his relative are pointless. And no, he’s not going to change, as he was rubbish at it and found it very stressful when he cooked (years ago), whereas I’m good at it and it makes me happy to feed people.

I’m just a bit frazzled after two weeks of hosting, and I need a whinge. ☺️

AIBU to think making up blanket food restrictions is not on, when you’re actually fine with the foods?

Oh and yes the relative is MIL. But please let’s not make this a MIL thread 🙏

Korma! Make it with cream, sweet potatoes/chicken, cashewnuts, and a broth. You can boil down cauliflower to make it thick.

Paneer dishes on the side (spinach and paneer cheese, peas etc).

Baked potatoes with tuna mayo

Poached fish in a creamy sauce and mashed potatoes

Seasoned fish with steamed veg.

Shit...if I eat my own food suggestions my weight would come off faster 🤣.

My Dad has Celiacs. I grew up catering for that. I think the spaces, tomatoes, and citric acid are possibly to do with indigestion and maybe a stomach ulcer? Or inflamed oesophagus? Perhaps too much causes her stomach upset and the yoghurt could possibly cause her loose bowels?