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DJW62 · 25/08/2024 00:02

Long story short because my blood is absolutely boiling!!

so not so long ago my MIL was looking after my DS on my working day as is agreed with us. I go to pick my DS up after work fully expecting to take my child home with me (obviously!) only to be told that I cannot take him home with me (rexcuse me?!) that they (MIL and SIL) had made plans to take him out for super with his cousin and I could come back later to pick him up. I could tell my DS was looking forward to this so I say nothing. However later that evening I send my MIL a polite message saying “nothing wrong, but in future can you please ask or make sure i know of any plans you have with DS because we did actually have a nice evening planned” My MIL went CRAZY in response to this message, “how dare i disrespect her like that, how dare I, she always does her best for the children, she always knew i hated her, im upsetting everyone, making her husband ill” blah blah blah the craziness went on and on and i was made out to be someone awful simply for asking politely to be informed of where my child would be?! So AIBU here for daring to ask such a thing?!

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MusicMakesItAllBetter · 01/09/2024 21:24

Newhere5 · 25/08/2024 13:37

Huh?
That’s not how I read the situation at all

It’s not how anyone saw it except ☝🏻

DJW62 · 31/08/2024 16:20

Sheeplesss · 30/08/2024 04:44

OP, sounds like you have been hugely overly tolerant of s rude woman. No one would tolerate turning up to collect their child to find them gone with no explanation.
Really rude and disrespectful.
Paid childcare and absolutely no more unsupervised visits.
She sounds unhinged and vile.
I really wouldn't want someone so unstable around my child so stepping back could be wise.

Thank you. Always made me feel so uneasy and I would tell my husband but he wouldnt say anything at the time. They would come back “oh we just popped down to so-and-so” DS unfed so sometimes it would be 7pm in the evening at us starting from there getting home late, dinner to cook , clothes to wash DS in an awful mood 🙈

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Sheeplesss · 30/08/2024 04:44

OP, sounds like you have been hugely overly tolerant of s rude woman. No one would tolerate turning up to collect their child to find them gone with no explanation.
Really rude and disrespectful.
Paid childcare and absolutely no more unsupervised visits.
She sounds unhinged and vile.
I really wouldn't want someone so unstable around my child so stepping back could be wise.

DJW62 · 29/08/2024 22:34

DJW62 · 29/08/2024 07:59

Because maybe the poster is trying to point something out that ive missed in her/his post??

Sorry just realised you were the person posting, so is there anything you were trying to say? and why “noted” ? Ive also “noted” that there is no need for any of your comments as they are not in the slightest bit helpful.

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DJW62 · 29/08/2024 15:43

Tessasanderson · 29/08/2024 14:59

Sounds like there were underlying issues waiting to come out tbh. She hasnt just gone batshit over the text.

Think your right.

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Tessasanderson · 29/08/2024 14:59

Sounds like there were underlying issues waiting to come out tbh. She hasnt just gone batshit over the text.

DJW62 · 29/08/2024 14:53

Thank you everyone who have replied especially those with useful suggestions for a way forward. My DS will always have a relationship with his family as it is important. However i will be seeking paid child care as MIL reaction to my simple request as a mother is something i cant really get over or understand. I think she has shown what she really does think of me (not much) and I cant really carry on as if everything is fine. Thank you everyone.

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DJW62 · 29/08/2024 12:58

mamajong · 29/08/2024 09:43

Is there a wider context here? Perhaps you have different norms within the families. For us things like this are always casual. Did you actually have plans? If so I'm.not sure why you wouldn't just say sorry, will have to be another time we are already booked onto x,y,z rather than send a text later. I've been to pick up DC before and they've decided they're having a sleepover at Grandma's, if we have no firm.plans it's fine, great that they have relatives who want to take them.out and do things.

I think yabu based on this alone but I feel like there's a wider context.

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I think ive posted a few times now that im usually extremely laid back and ALWAYS let things like this slide. But yes ive said a few times we did have plans and this is the one time i did not let it slide. Like ive said i didnt say sorry we have plans because DS had already been hyped up about going with GM, SIL and cousin. Ive been to pick DS up before with no one there! No idea where my son was and no one bothering to tell me, showing up an hour or two later, but i usually keep my mouth shut. Great they have relatives go do things with i know, even greater if i knew about it

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Fancycheese · 29/08/2024 10:16

Screamingabdabz · 25/08/2024 00:57

So you’re completely right and she’s completely wrong. That’s it isn’t it op? That’s what you want everyone to say to ease your conscience? The fact is you use her for free child care but only begrudgingly and on your terms and you were pissed off that your son was looking forward to something she’d organised. You didn’t need to send that text but you did because you do hate her and you wanted her to be upset as you. YABU.

I sometimes think people on the forum exist on a completely different planet. Or else we could use some of you lot to colonise Mars when the time comes.

lazyarse123 · 29/08/2024 10:11

Screamingabdabz · 25/08/2024 00:57

So you’re completely right and she’s completely wrong. That’s it isn’t it op? That’s what you want everyone to say to ease your conscience? The fact is you use her for free child care but only begrudgingly and on your terms and you were pissed off that your son was looking forward to something she’d organised. You didn’t need to send that text but you did because you do hate her and you wanted her to be upset as you. YABU.

Do you always read things that aren't there? I'd be going to the GP if I were you. You sound unwell.

mamajong · 29/08/2024 09:43

Is there a wider context here? Perhaps you have different norms within the families. For us things like this are always casual. Did you actually have plans? If so I'm.not sure why you wouldn't just say sorry, will have to be another time we are already booked onto x,y,z rather than send a text later. I've been to pick up DC before and they've decided they're having a sleepover at Grandma's, if we have no firm.plans it's fine, great that they have relatives who want to take them.out and do things.

I think yabu based on this alone but I feel like there's a wider context.

DJW62 · 29/08/2024 07:59

DreamTheMoors · 29/08/2024 02:57

Massive eyeroll.
If it wasn’t relevant, why’d you point it out?
Like everyone else on this thread, you could’ve simply ignored it — but nooo, you had to be condescending.
Noted.

Because maybe the poster is trying to point something out that ive missed in her/his post??

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DreamTheMoors · 29/08/2024 02:57

DJW62 · 28/08/2024 07:10

Thats lovely for you :) not sure hiow its relevant to the post though.

Massive eyeroll.
If it wasn’t relevant, why’d you point it out?
Like everyone else on this thread, you could’ve simply ignored it — but nooo, you had to be condescending.
Noted.

BehindTheSequinsandStilettos · 28/08/2024 21:51

When did this happen OP? How long ago?
Has she had your son since?
Has there been any conversation following the texts?

Winrus · 28/08/2024 21:39

She sounds like a psycho bitch. Your reaction is totally normal, hers not so.

Children are like animals, they often gravitate towards genuine, kind people. I think they can sense a narc a mile off and I wouldn’t be surprised if this GP isn’t a favourite.

Donsyb · 28/08/2024 21:26

I had a similar situation with MIL when I first started standing up to her after I had been with her son nearly 15 years. No one had ever stood up to her, they just let her get away with being a control freak narcissist for a quiet life. However now they stand up to her too! So now she cries that we’re all picking on her 🙄

Werweisswohin · 28/08/2024 07:12

Paid childcare is the answer here OP, then you can drop off and pick up as arranged.

DJW62 · 28/08/2024 07:10

DreamTheMoors · 28/08/2024 01:07

I’m one of those kids who preferred their grandparents to their parents.
No tension, no drinking, no arguments, no recriminations, no scolding — just pleasant meals and calmness.
Life isn’t always what it’s cracked up to be at home, but everything is always okay at Nana and Granddad’s.
It was always an oasis of happiness for me and I miss them something awful.

Thats lovely for you :) not sure hiow its relevant to the post though.

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DreamTheMoors · 28/08/2024 01:07

I’m one of those kids who preferred their grandparents to their parents.
No tension, no drinking, no arguments, no recriminations, no scolding — just pleasant meals and calmness.
Life isn’t always what it’s cracked up to be at home, but everything is always okay at Nana and Granddad’s.
It was always an oasis of happiness for me and I miss them something awful.

Jaybail · 28/08/2024 00:38

If your arrangement for babysitting is that you collect the child at a certain time then MIL should not schedule activities after that time without asking you if it will be ok. When I look after my grandkids I know what time to expect mom or dad to come and fetch them and I have them ready for that time.

TammyJones · 27/08/2024 12:49

@DJW62

This is all very true and is always the way i think, this is why this situation has upset ne so much. I have no side of my family, just me my father and DS so his family is very important to me.

^^^^^^^

I lost my mum in my teens so was eager to have a good relationship with my mil.

But I learnt very quickly that sometimes I would ignore things I shouldn't.

But you have done that for 8 years?

They don't change (seem to have very little, zero , self awareness).

As long as you're friendly and have strong boundaries , that's the best you can do.

Remember mil ranted off at you ?
You didn't

Mil is old enough to know better but acted like a child.

DJW62 · 27/08/2024 11:55

Firethehorse · 27/08/2024 10:27

I do tend to agree. It depends how much you really want to get on with DH’s side of the family.
It sounds like this was only arranged last minute because the cousin was there and why are you only blaming mil when there were also 2 x sil involved? Are you sure mil was really demanding in a bad way and not just pushing a bit to get the cousins together?
We all have to work at relationships if we want them to blossom and were you to take the dramatic step of stopping pil looking after their gc who is really benefitting/loosing out?
I’ve made mistakes, I’ve said the wrong thing on many occasions over the years with relatives but so have they. We talk about it, if necessary, agree a way forward and then forgive and forget.
It doesn’t sound good your mil exploded, sympathies for that, but you also need to ask yourself why and also ultimately if she loves your family and if so find a way forward.
Of course it means you being the bigger person when she has gone way too far, so let her know to her face how you feel about all of this for sure and how you need things to be but not lecturing her with arms folded, using access as a weapon. Who responds well to that?
I hope you sort it out as family are precious, and not just your side of the family.

This is all very true and is always the way i think, this is why this situation has upset ne so much. I have no side of my family, just me my father and DS so his family is very important to me.

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Firethehorse · 27/08/2024 10:27

LadyGabriella · 25/08/2024 20:27

You are being too controlling. It’s fine to be flexible if they’ve arranged an impromptu thing with cousin and it looks like your son wants to go. Nothing wrong with that🤷🏼‍♀️

I do tend to agree. It depends how much you really want to get on with DH’s side of the family.
It sounds like this was only arranged last minute because the cousin was there and why are you only blaming mil when there were also 2 x sil involved? Are you sure mil was really demanding in a bad way and not just pushing a bit to get the cousins together?
We all have to work at relationships if we want them to blossom and were you to take the dramatic step of stopping pil looking after their gc who is really benefitting/loosing out?
I’ve made mistakes, I’ve said the wrong thing on many occasions over the years with relatives but so have they. We talk about it, if necessary, agree a way forward and then forgive and forget.
It doesn’t sound good your mil exploded, sympathies for that, but you also need to ask yourself why and also ultimately if she loves your family and if so find a way forward.
Of course it means you being the bigger person when she has gone way too far, so let her know to her face how you feel about all of this for sure and how you need things to be but not lecturing her with arms folded, using access as a weapon. Who responds well to that?
I hope you sort it out as family are precious, and not just your side of the family.

Havinganamechange · 27/08/2024 08:44

I’m sorry OP but your MIL is a CF. I would have just taken DS and said sorry we have plans and given you haven’t advised in advance I will be leaving with DS. You need to put clear boundaries in place for people who behave that way. I would also text back and say how dare you send me this text and be prepared to sort your childcare through other means. What a silly bitch! And rude with it!

SummerSplashing · 26/08/2024 20:59

@DJW62

Mo way would she be having sole care of my child, she's off her rocker & I wouldn't trust her. God alone knows what she's dropping in his ear.

id be booking childcare tomorrow, she'll likely Bleet to DH he needs to be primed what to say to her.

something on the basis of 'Mother, you brought this on by not respecting @DJW62 as Charlie's Mum & went indanely off
of the deep end when she asked if next time you could check with us first before making plans with Charlie. We feel it's in Charlie's best interest to be in childcare & not be subject to you shouting at his Mum'

he must not blame you!!

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