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Inheritance - what to do with mine?

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BotDranning · 24/08/2024 20:07

So - Im posting very deliberately here - but please be gentle.

These are 2 am thinkings......

I am about to change my will as buying with DP.

We will own our new home 50:50.

I have 2 DS - Both of whom are doing ok.

DS1 Is just completing a Degree Apprenticeship London - minimum minimum wage. He will get a 1st in a BA. He has worked so exceptionally hard and has been offered a full time position with the company that has paid for his apprenticeship. It feels that he is probably set up for life - has a lot of opportunities to use his degree world wide (same industry as me so I'm confident in his opportunity). He will have no student debt. I currently give him £200 a month and will continue to do so for next few years.

DS2 is about to go to university - STEM, but can not get an apprenticeship in the area he wants to work. Has worked exceptionally hard to get to this stage (not through the formal routes) and I fully support his choices. He will have a full student loan - but minimal support loan - I will be giving him £300 a month once he starts uni in September.

So my question. when I die my estate will go to the boys. This includes 50% of a substantial house and my life insurance and pension. Currently this equates to around 700k. (350k in property and the rest in pension and life insurance).

So my question and it only occurred to me last night very late whilst I couldn't sleep..... would it be fair or reasonable to write into my will that everything is shared financially 50:50 once my youngest student loan has been paid off?

I can't decide if this is fair or not.

YABU = 50:50 split no consideration of student loan
YANBU = give the advantage of paying off the loan.

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UnPushyParents · 24/08/2024 22:40

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ZiriForGood · 24/08/2024 22:26

While "treat them the same" sounds noble, this approach is taking any agency away from the person writing the will.

Noone is entitled to 1/xth of the estate, no matter what.

Delphiniumandlupins · 24/08/2024 22:14

BotDranning · 24/08/2024 21:50

Yes this is my 2 am thought - without much thought. I love my boys so much snd want to treat them fairly.

But fairly isn't necessarily the same as equally. You're already trying to equalise by wiping out DS2 student debt. What if he turns out not to have the same earning potential as his brother? Or DS1 marries a very wealthy wife and inherits a house from her family? You can't keep trying to maintain a balance and your plans allow a generous inheritance for both. Treat them both the same.

MimiSunshine · 24/08/2024 22:14

no keep it 50:50. The student loan debt will most likely increase with interest so could end be being quite a significant amount that comes out of your estate before the remainder is split.

i also really don’t get the worry and obsession with student loan debt that people have with it.
it comes out of earnings based on income. It doesn’t affect anything really, doesn’t count as debt in the sense that a significant bank loan does. So while yes, take home pay is reduced, it’s not really that much and doesn’t stop a person taking out more traditional loans like a mortgage.

Betyouthinkthissongisaboutyou · 24/08/2024 22:12

Will DS 2 be living away for University? If he is will his Dad give him £300 a month too so £600 in total?

Regarding student loans it is best to help him pay it off before the interest builds and builds if that is your intention.

MounjaroUser · 24/08/2024 22:09

I agree with you and I'd tell them I was doing this. First out comes the student loan money and then it's split between them.

One thing you could do is take out life assurance for the price of the student loan, so that you could then split the rest between them. The other thing you could do is now that your older son has finished his apprenticeship, give his £200 to your younger son so that he doesn't have to borrow as much, so the final student loan repayment would be lower.

However, I'd be discussing it with them both before taking any action.

mondaytosunday · 24/08/2024 22:04

@LoneHydrangea that's not true. They figure with the lower income start and longer to pay it back (40 years) over 60% of students taking a loan will pay it back (plus accrued interest).
OP 50:50. One might marry well, one might become unable to work, one might decide to chuck in their job and sail around the world... 50:50 or a the only way to go.

S0CKPUPPET · 24/08/2024 22:02

Will your sons inherited a substantial amount of money on your death ? Or will they have to wait for possibly decades until your DPs death to get your Half of the house?

TheBottomsOfMyTrousersAreRolled · 24/08/2024 22:00

Dencar · 24/08/2024 21:41

If I’m understanding your post correctly, you’re considering the university fees would be paid out first, then the balance (cash component) of your estate would be 50:50 to your sons.
i think this is incredibly thoughtful & considerate. There isn’t a university debt hanging over one son and they each end up with the same cash inheritance.
i would do exactly this.

Ah. Ok so each would have no undergrad degree debt. Actually, yes that makes sense. But tell them before they hear it in a will.

TheBottomsOfMyTrousersAreRolled · 24/08/2024 21:58

50/50 you simply have no idea how their lives will turn out.

mewkins · 24/08/2024 21:55

I'd stick with 50/50. What if one chose to do another degree or other qualification later on? You'd be endlessly updating your will to account for the extra debt.

BotDranning · 24/08/2024 21:50

Dencar · 24/08/2024 21:41

If I’m understanding your post correctly, you’re considering the university fees would be paid out first, then the balance (cash component) of your estate would be 50:50 to your sons.
i think this is incredibly thoughtful & considerate. There isn’t a university debt hanging over one son and they each end up with the same cash inheritance.
i would do exactly this.

Yes this is my 2 am thought - without much thought. I love my boys so much snd want to treat them fairly.

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Tagyoureit · 24/08/2024 21:45

50:50

Do you really want to create a divide on your demise?

Dencar · 24/08/2024 21:41

If I’m understanding your post correctly, you’re considering the university fees would be paid out first, then the balance (cash component) of your estate would be 50:50 to your sons.
i think this is incredibly thoughtful & considerate. There isn’t a university debt hanging over one son and they each end up with the same cash inheritance.
i would do exactly this.

Starzinsky · 24/08/2024 21:40

50:50, not sure what the student loan bit is about.

Hucklemuckle · 24/08/2024 21:36

DS2 is about to go to university - STEM, but can not get an apprenticeship in the area he wants to work. Has worked exceptionally hard to get to this stage (not through the formal routes)
Out of interest, what not formal route did DS2 take?

Hucklemuckle · 24/08/2024 21:35

Delphiniumandlupins · 24/08/2024 20:50

If you don't just split it 50:50 you will need to constantly rewrite your will to keep things "equal". What if one child buys a house and the other wants to travel? One has children and the other an expensive divorce? One has health issues and can't work full-time? One wants to retire early?

I completely agree with this. You have no idea what life has in store. One may have a dc with complex needs. One may end up disabled and unable to work. One may have a costly divorce.

DrinkElephants · 24/08/2024 21:18

50:50 I’m shocked you’d consider anything else.

It was your son’s choice to go to uni and take out loans just as it was your other son’s choice to do an apprenticeship. Do not punish one for their choices.

LegoShark · 24/08/2024 21:11

Are you aware that some people never pay off their student loans, because they do not earn enough, or they change career or due to ill health or emigration or a combination of all these things.
I know several people who have not paid off there student loan & never will.

Why would you give money in your will with strings attached ?

Give equally to your children

You could possibly make provision for grand children if there are some in the future too

Tightfishedtwat · 24/08/2024 21:04

lunar1 · 24/08/2024 20:16

Give your children 50:50, your will is your last gift to them, the last 'message' they get from you, treat them equally.

This 100%.

OhcantthInkofaname · 24/08/2024 21:01

In the US it would be possible to get a life insurance policy on both of you that could cover a payout to either his children or yours in the event of either death. You could pay this from joint household funds. That means that your or your DP can keep the house.

tara66 · 24/08/2024 20:56

Goodness - one wonders what anyone will ever inherit after next budget! Give to them asap and hope there is no tax involved.

Delphiniumandlupins · 24/08/2024 20:50

If you don't just split it 50:50 you will need to constantly rewrite your will to keep things "equal". What if one child buys a house and the other wants to travel? One has children and the other an expensive divorce? One has health issues and can't work full-time? One wants to retire early?

PermanentTemporary · 24/08/2024 20:30

I wouldn't worry too much. This sounds like those worries of the small hours. It all sounds as if you gave been very sensible. Just split it 50/50 and stop worrying about it.

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 24/08/2024 20:29

50:50. You don’t know what the future holds and both dcs made their career choices knowing about student loan debt and how much help you could give them.

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