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I'm a nanny with my own baby - what should I charge?

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Vizella · 24/08/2024 15:40

Hi all,

I am a single mother of a 1.5 year old DS whom I've committed to looking after until he's 3 - I believe in prioritising his needs above my career, etc etc. I live with my parents at the moment, that's how I can afford it.

However, I am eating into my savings and would like to make some income as an after-school nanny so that I don't deplete all of my savings. Otherwise, I might have to go back to work and I don't want to do that.

My question is, would parents be okay with me looking after their children while I bring my DS along - he is well-behaved and bright, not the type to run around tearing things down - and also, should I charge slightly less or the same hourly rate?

So, in London, nannies charge about £15 net per hour, should I charge £10-12 per hour?

Thanks for your advice (and sorry if any of this offends some of you - no idea how lol, but you never know).

OP posts:
itsgettingweird · 24/08/2024 16:07

DaniMontyRae · 24/08/2024 15:52

Good luck getting someone to employ you if they know your attitude to parents who use childcare. Why would anyone want a nanny who thinks the parents are failing to prioritise their children by using a nanny? Not everyone is lucky enough to be so heavily subsidised by their parents.

As to bringing your child, of course you would have to charge less. Why would someone pay you the same as a nanny who would be solely focused on their children. And you cannot guarantee that your child will be well behaved. He's only 18 months, you have no idea how he will be at 2 or 3.

Op hasn't said she has any attitude towards working parents.

She has said she wants to care for her child until he's 3. And is looking for school aged child - who is older than 3 and so no different to her situation.

ItisObvious · 24/08/2024 16:07

Vizella · 24/08/2024 16:05

I was a nanny for 4 years at some point - 3.5 years with a UK family, 4 weeks with a Qatari royal family and 2 weeks with a mother of a newborn while she rested with the baby I looked after her child with autism, some babysitting for 3 families, after school work for 2 families.

1 year as a kindergarten ESL teacher abroad and 1 year as a primary/middle school ESL teacher abroad.

Its because of my previous work as a nanny that I can now no longer work as a full-time nanny. I don't want my own baby raised by my mum while I go off looking after other people's children. That's why I suggested after school nannying - usually the parent has cooked food beforehand and I just need to heat it up. I help with homework and chat to the kids and then the parents arrive at 5.30-6pm.

Edited

You sound like you would be a great help to any family ! I think go for it ! Good luck Flowers

wellington77 · 24/08/2024 16:06

ComtesseDeSpair · 24/08/2024 16:05

Childminders are different because they are self employed and thus not subject to pay legislation. A nanny is an employee, and cannot legally be paid below NMW.

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I see, thankyou

ComtesseDeSpair · 24/08/2024 16:05

wellington77 · 24/08/2024 16:00

Jesus! 10-12 pound an hour! Glad I don’t live in London . I live in Northamptonshire and my childminder charges £5 an hour per child, that’s for the child to stay at their house. If your being a nanny in someone else’s house I have no idea but I shouldn’t think they would let you bring your son along unless you find someone random couple who do. If you’re not in London then do not charge a tenner if you’re looking after the child at your own home.

Edited

Childminders are different because they are self employed and thus not subject to pay legislation. A nanny is an employee, and cannot legally be paid below NMW.

ItisObvious · 24/08/2024 16:05

i feel quite surprised so many people are against this sort of idea it seems like a good option for all - cheaper childcare price, nanny gets to have her ds with her , an older child gets to have contact with another child. My dc have always adored playing with younger dc eg cousins and they get so excited when they teach them something or they play a game or make them giggle etc

wellington77 · 24/08/2024 16:05

NorthernKitty · 24/08/2024 16:04

Nannies are usually employed by the parents, and minimum wage is £11.44 ph… (I think the OP was referring to net pay after tax too).

Not the same as a childminder who is self employed and charges per child.

Ah I see!

Vizella · 24/08/2024 16:05

ItisObvious · 24/08/2024 15:56

Not necessarily I’ve heard of Nannies bringing their own dc with them to work before as long as OP has professionalism and experience and can meet the needs of both children I don’t see why it would be an issue ? No different to a childminder who also has their own dc ?

I was a nanny for 4 years at some point - 3.5 years with a UK family, 4 weeks with a Qatari royal family and 2 weeks with a mother of a newborn while she rested with the baby I looked after her child with autism, some babysitting for 3 families, after school work for 2 families.

1 year as a kindergarten ESL teacher abroad and 1 year as a primary/middle school ESL teacher abroad.

Its because of my previous work as a nanny that I can now no longer work as a full-time nanny. I don't want my own baby raised by my mum while I go off looking after other people's children. That's why I suggested after school nannying - usually the parent has cooked food beforehand and I just need to heat it up. I help with homework and chat to the kids and then the parents arrive at 5.30-6pm.

OP posts:
NorthernKitty · 24/08/2024 16:04

wellington77 · 24/08/2024 16:00

Jesus! 10-12 pound an hour! Glad I don’t live in London . I live in Northamptonshire and my childminder charges £5 an hour per child, that’s for the child to stay at their house. If your being a nanny in someone else’s house I have no idea but I shouldn’t think they would let you bring your son along unless you find someone random couple who do. If you’re not in London then do not charge a tenner if you’re looking after the child at your own home.

Edited

Nannies are usually employed by the parents, and minimum wage is £11.44 ph… (I think the OP was referring to net pay after tax too).

Not the same as a childminder who is self employed and charges per child.

ItisObvious · 24/08/2024 16:02

Deadringer · 24/08/2024 15:59

No one will want to pay you to care for their child if they know that you intend to prioritise your own dc over theirs.

It wouldn’t bother me in the slightest if I were to employ a nanny I’d actually quite like that added element for my child if there was quite a big gap I think it’s nice when children mix with other age groups after being with their academic year all day every day at school I think it teaches some good skills and would be beneficial. I’d also value a nanny who was also a mother as although childcare qualifications are one thing being a mother gives a different type of awareness I think.

Procrastinates · 24/08/2024 16:01

tennesseewhiskey1 · 24/08/2024 15:59

I know loads of nannies who do this - they all have their own toddlers and do after school pick up - in London they charge about 20/hr - the ones i know anyway.

I'm genuinely surprised you know one let alone loads. Are there no after school clubs in London! It seems madness to me that people would be content with having a toddler come to their home especially if they've got school aged children. Are the parents expected to toddler proof the property?

Sprinkles211 · 24/08/2024 16:01

No way I'd pay nanny rates and have their child in my house too, your child is always obviously going to be your priority whilst in your care, so someone paying premium rates for their child's care to come second is stupid

NorthernKitty · 24/08/2024 16:00

We had an after school nanny with her own child. Her DC was the same age as mine so it worked brilliantly (stopped my DC arguing so much, they basically had an extra better-behaved sibling).

She was an experienced nanny so I was very very lucky. I don’t know what experience you have so can’t comment on pay rates.

wellington77 · 24/08/2024 16:00

Jesus! 10-12 pound an hour! Glad I don’t live in London . I live in Northamptonshire and my childminder charges £5 an hour per child, that’s for the child to stay at their house. If your being a nanny in someone else’s house I have no idea but I shouldn’t think they would let you bring your son along unless you find someone random couple who do. If you’re not in London then do not charge a tenner if you’re looking after the child at your own home.

Deadringer · 24/08/2024 15:59

No one will want to pay you to care for their child if they know that you intend to prioritise your own dc over theirs.

tennesseewhiskey1 · 24/08/2024 15:59

I know loads of nannies who do this - they all have their own toddlers and do after school pick up - in London they charge about 20/hr - the ones i know anyway.

Stompythedinosaur · 24/08/2024 15:58

I think these sort of arrangements often start naturally because a nanny with an established relationship with a family has a baby and they choose to keep her on.

I think it can work, but you'd have to have a real think about how to treat the dc in your care fairly, you can't possibly openly prioritise your own dc, that would be horrible for the cared for dc.

I think a lot will come down to what demand there is in your area. I suspect it may only work if there aren't preferable options for parents.

ItisObvious · 24/08/2024 15:58

DaniMontyRae · 24/08/2024 15:56

She said she is 'prioritising his needs over my career' by barely working. Ergo, parents who work and use childcare are not. Some parents have to prioritise their career because without it the children wouldn't have a roof over their heads.

But we don’t know what his needs are or OP exact circumstances it sounds to me she’s made a decision for herself that works for her based on things we perhaps aren’t aware of and I don’t think it sounds as if she is judging or criticising anyone who does use childcare ?

ComtesseDeSpair · 24/08/2024 15:57

I’d pitch towards the lower end, particularly as this is your first try at this sort of arrangement and you actually don’t have any idea how it’s going to work out balancing the needs of the child you’re being paid to focus on and those of your own child. Beyond the money aspect, it’s going to be just as important to really think about how you’re going to answer questions at interview about the above, and have thoughtful examples and responses which demonstrate to parents that you’re still committed to top class care for your charge and aren’t just seeing this as an easy way to make money whilst being with your DS.

CandiedPrincess · 24/08/2024 15:57

Yes of course there are childminder / nannies who have their own children with them. My ds had an incredible childminder whose own son was there too.

Childminder is very different to nanny.

ItisObvious · 24/08/2024 15:56

HelloMiss · 24/08/2024 15:54

@ItisObvious

Your own kids in your own home v stranger

As someone upthread pointed out, she would be all about her own kid

Not necessarily I’ve heard of Nannies bringing their own dc with them to work before as long as OP has professionalism and experience and can meet the needs of both children I don’t see why it would be an issue ? No different to a childminder who also has their own dc ?

CandiedPrincess · 24/08/2024 15:56

I don't think this would work or that many people would go for it. Your other option is become a childminder where it's much more accepted that your own DC will be there but that's difficult riding on your parents coattails.

Colonicq · 24/08/2024 15:56

DaniMontyRae · 24/08/2024 15:52

Good luck getting someone to employ you if they know your attitude to parents who use childcare. Why would anyone want a nanny who thinks the parents are failing to prioritise their children by using a nanny? Not everyone is lucky enough to be so heavily subsidised by their parents.

As to bringing your child, of course you would have to charge less. Why would someone pay you the same as a nanny who would be solely focused on their children. And you cannot guarantee that your child will be well behaved. He's only 18 months, you have no idea how he will be at 2 or 3.

And here’s how you can offend someone on mumsnet. It’s not hard, but it’s always absurd 🙄

Yes of course there are childminder / nannies who have their own children with them. My ds had an incredible childminder whose own son was there too.

DaniMontyRae · 24/08/2024 15:56

ItisObvious · 24/08/2024 15:53

I think OP meant that is her personal choice and she’s not judging others for their choices.

She said she is 'prioritising his needs over my career' by barely working. Ergo, parents who work and use childcare are not. Some parents have to prioritise their career because without it the children wouldn't have a roof over their heads.

HelloMiss · 24/08/2024 15:54

@ItisObvious

Your own kids in your own home v stranger

As someone upthread pointed out, she would be all about her own kid

PrimalOwl10 · 24/08/2024 15:54

I can't see many parents happy with this arrangement. Are you qualified?