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I'm a nanny with my own baby - what should I charge?

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Vizella · 24/08/2024 15:40

Hi all,

I am a single mother of a 1.5 year old DS whom I've committed to looking after until he's 3 - I believe in prioritising his needs above my career, etc etc. I live with my parents at the moment, that's how I can afford it.

However, I am eating into my savings and would like to make some income as an after-school nanny so that I don't deplete all of my savings. Otherwise, I might have to go back to work and I don't want to do that.

My question is, would parents be okay with me looking after their children while I bring my DS along - he is well-behaved and bright, not the type to run around tearing things down - and also, should I charge slightly less or the same hourly rate?

So, in London, nannies charge about £15 net per hour, should I charge £10-12 per hour?

Thanks for your advice (and sorry if any of this offends some of you - no idea how lol, but you never know).

OP posts:
Vizella · 24/08/2024 19:43

Shan5474 · 24/08/2024 18:59

Where did you read this? Genuinely interested as my reading suggests that nursery is a helpful learning environment for young children

From the book Being There by Erica Komisar

OP posts:
pinkyredrose · 24/08/2024 19:38

Vizella · 24/08/2024 18:33

It was my idea as I've read that children in a large group setting were exposed to lots of stress and noise, which could later lead to ADHD, anxiety or depression.

Ideally, a child will be looked after by the mother for the first 3 years, and then the next preferable person is the father. The hierarchy goes like this:

Mother > Father > grandparents/aunt/relatives > Nanny > Childminder > Nursery.

I mean was it your parents idea to move in and devote yourself to parenthood under thier roof?

Also do they want another kid in thier house?

olympicsrock · 24/08/2024 19:35

Having said this , we were prepared to give it a go to keep great Nannies as part of our family set up and save some money. Still in touch with both. Need to be realistic that it might not work for either party.

olympicsrock · 24/08/2024 19:33

We had 2 nannies who brought their own child to work one older one younger . We paid 1/3 less than standard. The nanny with older child prioritised her child ie my baby/ toddler went along to school assemblies etc my child was the passenger in older child’s life as a younger sibling would be.
Second time round our brilliant nanny came back from Mat leave with 6 month old baby but by the time they were a toddler it was difficult to balance the needs of her toddler with naps baby groups etc with the needs of my older children and school runs / homework etc.

There is no way I would pay full price as an employer. While my school age child watched TV after school a nanny would normally cook/ tidy but she needed to give attention to younger child / feed them at mealtimes etc .

FLOWER1983 · 24/08/2024 19:33

exprecis · 24/08/2024 16:14

Surprised by this as Koru kids in London specialise in after school nannies and in my bit of London the rate is around £15-7/hr without them bringing a toddler along

Yes but most experienced nannies wouldn't work through Koru kids because the pay is very low

Ozanj · 24/08/2024 19:30

People hire nannies for the personal attention. Yours will be taken up by your dc. I personally wouldn’t hire you

Happytohelp2 · 24/08/2024 19:27

Hi, I can’t tell you what to charge but just want to encourage you. I employed a nanny whose son was 18 months old at the time when I went back to work when my daughter was 4 months old. She lived with her parents at the time and came to our house with her son each day. She came in the middle of the night when I went into labour with my 2nd daughter to look after my 1st, leaving her son at home with her parents. She worked for us for 15 years. My daughters babysat for her twins, born when she had been with us 10 years. We’re still in touch and she and her family recently attended my first daughter’s wedding. She was great and her son became like a cousin to my kids.
We paid her a set amount each week regardless of hours as I felt it was important she had a reliable income.
good luck!

readysteadynono · 24/08/2024 19:27

The norm is to charge less per hour. Also you would be expected to prioritise the nanny child within reason. So do think carefully. There are people who will hire you but fewer and it’s not always easy. So plan carefully. What will happen if your child is sick? What will happen if they hurt themselves whilst you have charge of your nanny child? Discuss and plan for each eventuality with your nanny family ahead of time to avoid issues.

MintyNew · 24/08/2024 19:27

Around here nannie are paid 16-18 and even 20p/h. It would be extremely unusual as well for you not to cook the food for the kids. When do you expect working parents to do that? That would be part of the job. Also running the kids to various activities, helping with homework, ensuring they have a bath, pack bags and sort uniforms. Definitely not doable with an 18mo in tow. I know it would be a firm NO around here as people want a proper nanny and I think you are looking for a babysitter role.
Also you must be joking that a 1.5yo is not that much work. I have an almost 2yo and I can't imagine doing an actual job alongside caring for her, so there is no way that you would give the kids full attention.
What if your kid is ill? What happens then?

ComtesseDeSpair · 24/08/2024 19:26

Shan5474 · 24/08/2024 18:59

Where did you read this? Genuinely interested as my reading suggests that nursery is a helpful learning environment for young children

A couple of very small studies have indicated some correlation between non-parental caregiving and ADHD, depression and anxiety. (It’s worth noting for balance that other very small studies have found no correlation.) However, parental history of ADHD, depression and anxiety remains uniquely and overwhelmingly predictive of early-onset and persistent risk in children for all three conditions - so it’s entirely likely that it’s an example where correlation does not equal causation, but because depressed and anxious parents or those who struggle with executive function and moderating their behaviour as parents are more likely to make use of childcare to help them get by than happy neurotypical parents are.

HJA87 · 24/08/2024 19:26

Shan5474 · 24/08/2024 18:59

Where did you read this? Genuinely interested as my reading suggests that nursery is a helpful learning environment for young children

OP , I agree with you but you will get a lot of hate for saying this on here. I did when I mentioned it on another thread.

@Shan5474 https://criticalscience.medium.com/on-the-science-of-daycare-4d1ab4c2efb4

this article is a good summary of this theory

Childcare : what the science says

I recently wrote about errors in a ‘data driven’ guide to childcare; the first comment asked:

https://criticalscience.medium.com/on-the-science-of-daycare-4d1ab4c2efb4

TonTonMacoute · 24/08/2024 19:23

Women look after multiple children all the time, so I don't see why it wouldn't be perfectly possible.

You will have to be upfront about it and I'm sure you would find a client happy to pay a bit less for childcare on this basis.

Mysinglepringle · 24/08/2024 19:23

VivaVivaa · 24/08/2024 19:19

I would have no qualms in using a nanny with a child of her own, as long as the price reflected that.

I would however have qualms with using a nanny who has such ableist views as to feel ADHD can be ‘caused’.

No one knows what the cause of ADHD is. But there are some that believe environmental factors play a part. Shes not wrong to use that word.

Mysinglepringle · 24/08/2024 19:21

I did this a few years ago. Some people weren't keen, some didn't think twice about it. I wouldn't charge less than minimum wage as it makes it look dodgy or as if you are a child.

LeopardPrint12 · 24/08/2024 19:21

I wouldn't mind someone who wasnt qualified in childcare for just after school work. But I wouldn't want them to be doing it just for the money. They would have to care about the role.
OP, it's worth a try if you are committed to caring for a child in this way and supporting a family.

VivaVivaa · 24/08/2024 19:19

Vizella · 24/08/2024 18:33

It was my idea as I've read that children in a large group setting were exposed to lots of stress and noise, which could later lead to ADHD, anxiety or depression.

Ideally, a child will be looked after by the mother for the first 3 years, and then the next preferable person is the father. The hierarchy goes like this:

Mother > Father > grandparents/aunt/relatives > Nanny > Childminder > Nursery.

I would have no qualms in using a nanny with a child of her own, as long as the price reflected that.

I would however have qualms with using a nanny who has such ableist views as to feel ADHD can be ‘caused’.

Icanttakethisanymore · 24/08/2024 19:18

We did this - it was a stop gap thing that suited us both. She was known to me but had a toddler of her own. We probably paid 20% under and worked for us and her.

MrsSkylerWhite · 24/08/2024 19:18

Our daughter did this for a period whilst studying. It was for a good friend which may have made a difference but she did 2 full days per week and took her child in one day. So, her charge (who was 1 year older) had the benefit of the company of another child for one day, which she loved, and full attention for 1 day. She often asked after my grandchild when he wasn’t there. I think it could work.

A couple of years on, the children are still best of friends 😀

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 24/08/2024 19:16

Exactly, I found her offensive too. I work to prioritize the needs of my children to make sure I can give them what they need.

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 24/08/2024 19:14

Colonicq · 24/08/2024 15:56

And here’s how you can offend someone on mumsnet. It’s not hard, but it’s always absurd 🙄

Yes of course there are childminder / nannies who have their own children with them. My ds had an incredible childminder whose own son was there too.

She was offensive though. She’s said she’s choosing not to work to ‘prioritise her child’. So those of us who work are not prioritising our children? I don’t have the safety net of being able to live with parents… but sure me working is because I’m not prioritising my kids (not that I have to put a roof over my head).

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 24/08/2024 19:12

exprecis · 24/08/2024 18:45

Families apparently vary but I’m sure if you are reliable, offer flexible hours etc, especially someone with 2+ kids may bite your hand off for a good rate like £12 ph.

That might be true but she isn't offering those things. She doesn't want to work later than 5:30/6, look after more than 1 other child, cook dinner.

You have to offer an attractive package in terms of hours and services

Good point. I would need until 7 and some flexibility for later evenings

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 24/08/2024 19:11

Vizella · 24/08/2024 18:36

It looks like I'll have to forget about being an after school nanny for a while. I can give ESL conversation lessons on an online platform or app or something.

Lots of people have told you that it’s a thing and possible so not sure why you are saying you need to forget it.

it could be something that would be interested in for a bit less the normal rate, but I have 2 kids.

your attitude though to people outsourcing childcare is horrible though so I would not want to hire you on that basis. I wouldn’t want someone who was so judgemental about my choices and what I needed to do for my family.

Eatyourcrust · 24/08/2024 19:09

I use an after (trustworthy but relatively inexperienced) school nanny for primary age children, I ask that they take my kids to the local park (weather permitting) and they usually run around until 5pm, then come home and watch TV until I get back at 6pm. All walkable, no cars/ public transport to worry about. I do dinner, homework, baths, etc with them.

i would be fine with you bringing your little one as long as you/they are happy to do what my kids want in terms of outdoor time. I would only be concerned about what would happen if your toddler wants to go home, gets cold, bored, etc and mine want to keep playing? Also with your own dependent, will you be as reliable? Also would we need to toddler-proof our home?

We pay £15 per hour, would expect a slight reduction for your situation.

HelloMiss · 24/08/2024 19:04

Why on earth not? I have a toddler and they aren’t my only child and I manage extremely well! Why should it be a problem? Many people have more than 1 or 2 children and are extremely competent.
I don’t get the problem?

You would pay someone to have only half an eye on your kid? As a parent you are in tune with all your kids needs

The paid help won't be

ManchesterLu · 24/08/2024 19:02

Sorry but your wording is bizarre. You've committed to look after your child until he's 3? Newsflash: you've committed to looking after him for many, many more years than that - he's YOUR child!

The only way this would work would be if you were a childminder in your own home, and other people brought their kids to you. That way, your child would be no different than if you were looking after another child for someone else.

But taking the toddler with you, into other people's homes? Some people may be okay with that, but it's really not a great situation, and to be honest it's not very fair on your child, either.