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to stop in motorway SOS lay-by so DD could wee

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TheWrongBus · 24/08/2024 11:29

Genuine question, curious if there is an official/legal answer.

Driving to West Country, inevitably stuck in bad traffic jams on M25, DD9 suggests she may need a wee at some point but we’re only about an hour away from our lunch stop so I tell her ideally we’ll push through.

What I didn’t realise is that she’d drunk half her (large) bottle of water before we left home. She admits this just as we’re joining the M3 where there are seemingly permanent roadworks, no hard shoulder and emergency SOS lay-byes only.

I check and we’re around 25 minutes from the next services and at least 15 minutes from the next junction. Daughter at this point starts to cry because she’s so desperate so we decide to pull into the SOS lay-bye and hubby takes her behind the crash barrier for a wee. From what he reports it’s clearly not the first time this spot has been used in this way….

I don’t like using the lay-bye for this purpose and appreciate there are dangers to stopping there but I’m not sure what else we could have done. With the M25 traffic and the M3 roadworks I think it was at least 50 minutes between the previous M25 junction and the next M3 junction and literally nowhere we could stop between. So what else could we have done?

Am hoping they don’t fine people for using these lay-byes in a non-emergency, but given daughter literally about to wet herself isn’t it arguably a medical emergency anyway?

OP posts:
belle777 · 25/08/2024 21:58

Bad traffic jam. Slow moving traffic. Not exactly the cataclysmic event you’re all piously bleating. Calm down.

Sirzy · 25/08/2024 21:54

belle777 · 25/08/2024 21:47

Yawn 🥱

Yes keeping people alive is very much a “yawn” event

QualityDog · 25/08/2024 21:52

belle777 · 25/08/2024 21:32

Oh my god. The pious ‘that’s so terrible’ posters here are being ridiculous. Of course it’s ok. She was desperate. You needed to stop. Not sure why this is even an issue! Mumsnet sometimes is just so 🙄

Pious! I take it you have never seen a motorway car accident.

I have, thirty years ago when I was in my twenties and it was horrific. Everything happened so fast. I had to crawl inside a car which was on its side to try to get a child out of the back. I had to be boosted up on the side of the car which where the roof should be and go in through the window because I'm small and nobody else could fit. I got her seatbelt off but I couldn't get her out because I wasn't strong enough to move her and the stronger people couldn't get in.

She was cut out by the fire fighters eventually and I never found out what happened to her.

belle777 · 25/08/2024 21:47

Whaleandsnail6 · 25/08/2024 21:43

Have you actually bothered to read the thread?

If you had you would see why it is an issue...it is illegal and dangerous to stop in these areas unless it is an emergency, which needing a wee is not, no matter how desperate.

Yawn 🥱

Whaleandsnail6 · 25/08/2024 21:43

belle777 · 25/08/2024 21:32

Oh my god. The pious ‘that’s so terrible’ posters here are being ridiculous. Of course it’s ok. She was desperate. You needed to stop. Not sure why this is even an issue! Mumsnet sometimes is just so 🙄

Have you actually bothered to read the thread?

If you had you would see why it is an issue...it is illegal and dangerous to stop in these areas unless it is an emergency, which needing a wee is not, no matter how desperate.

belle777 · 25/08/2024 21:32

Oh my god. The pious ‘that’s so terrible’ posters here are being ridiculous. Of course it’s ok. She was desperate. You needed to stop. Not sure why this is even an issue! Mumsnet sometimes is just so 🙄

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 25/08/2024 20:48

Stellllllaaaa · 25/08/2024 19:53

Also, the lay-bye was big enough for at least 3 other cars or an HGV so it’s highly unlikely we were depriving anyone else of using it

It's not about 'depriving' anyone. It's about them smashing into your car and killing your whole family.

Not likely on a motorway when it is taking 50mins to go 3miles between each junction, so traffic is moving slower than a school zone.

Also, when a car breaks down such that you can go a mile to a lay-by, it doesn’t speed up, it usually slows down very suddenly and you limp or coast off to the side.

ErinBell01 · 25/08/2024 20:07

If a child started saying that they might need a wee I'd be looking for a toilet, definitely not thinking, oh she can last an hour, that's madness. Half an hour at a push, if there wasn't an alternative, but an HOUR!!

RecklessGoddess · 25/08/2024 19:55

Wow, I can't believe you actually asked such a ridiculous question. Of course it's wrong to do that, not only is it highly illegal, it's also highly dangerous. You put your child's life and your own at risk!!!

Stellllllaaaa · 25/08/2024 19:53

Also, the lay-bye was big enough for at least 3 other cars or an HGV so it’s highly unlikely we were depriving anyone else of using it

It's not about 'depriving' anyone. It's about them smashing into your car and killing your whole family.

claremmm · 25/08/2024 19:48

There was a horrible fatal accident near here where a family stopped in lay-by when child was being sick. So dangerous

Trickabrick · 25/08/2024 19:27

Icedblondeoatlatte · 25/08/2024 18:31

Curious about this (I have a recently toilet trained DD) and have never been in this situation - those of you saying use the potty not the layby- wouldn’t you have to stop in the lay-by for dd to use a potty (or other) anyway? I know I will have this issue at some point so wondering what the done thing is? 🤔

We use the Potette bags that you usually put on the travel potty. Hold them (or get the child to hold them) in the right position under them and pray the angle is correct! They’re also great as sick bags .

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imnotsickbutimnotwell · 25/08/2024 18:41

I actually saw someone changing a babies nappy on the tarmac of one of those emergency bays on the M25 once.

MrsMrsD · 25/08/2024 18:39

So dangerous to stop on the motorway. No exaggeration but whole families have actually died stopping on the motorway because a child needed a wee. Buy a shrinkable pee bottle. We have one of these in the car for our child.

to stop in motorway SOS lay-by so DD could wee
tribalmango · 25/08/2024 18:38

Icedblondeoatlatte · 25/08/2024 18:31

Curious about this (I have a recently toilet trained DD) and have never been in this situation - those of you saying use the potty not the layby- wouldn’t you have to stop in the lay-by for dd to use a potty (or other) anyway? I know I will have this issue at some point so wondering what the done thing is? 🤔

Yeah, I'm not sure what a travel potty would have solved in OP's situation.

When mine were just toilet trained I would put a bed mat on the car seat with a towel on top. One son did end up wetting himself once and it was horrible. He was so sad, and I felt awful, but I wasn't going to stop on the hard shoulder.

tribalmango · 25/08/2024 18:33

Done2much · 25/08/2024 18:26

haven't rtft so maybe been mentioned already but would one of these have been useful?

the shewee products I have are well made and good quality

www.shewee.com/peebol-pocket-sized-toilet.html

Oh good luck getting a 9 yo to manage with that!

Icedblondeoatlatte · 25/08/2024 18:31

Trickabrick · 24/08/2024 11:43

I think it was a bit naive to think a child could wait an hour for the loo and not anticipate traffic problems holding you up but it’s done now. You really shouldn’t have done it but hopefully it was a one-off. We still have the travel potty bags in the car for this type of situation.

Curious about this (I have a recently toilet trained DD) and have never been in this situation - those of you saying use the potty not the layby- wouldn’t you have to stop in the lay-by for dd to use a potty (or other) anyway? I know I will have this issue at some point so wondering what the done thing is? 🤔

Done2much · 25/08/2024 18:26

haven't rtft so maybe been mentioned already but would one of these have been useful?

the shewee products I have are well made and good quality

www.shewee.com/peebol-pocket-sized-toilet.html

Johnnyripples · 25/08/2024 18:15

I just saw some idiothole do this on the M4 today with a little girl. Shocking.

tribalmango · 25/08/2024 18:10

Genuine question, curious if there is an official/legal answer.

Since you are in doubt, I think you should have looked the answer up online rather than asking MN. You should know the rules of the road.

Cakeaddict007 · 25/08/2024 18:09

Irresponsible and illegal. Risking your and your child’s life. Hope you get fined.

gardenflowergirl · 25/08/2024 18:06

Don't give a child a water bottle prior to or during a long journey.

OneForTheRoadThen · 25/08/2024 18:02

MrsSkylerWhite · 25/08/2024 12:40

Next time, would she agree to pull ups as a one off for the journey?

She's 9! She doesn't need a pull-up, she just needs not to neck loads of water before the journey and OP needs to plan toilet stops into the journey.

Grammarnut · 25/08/2024 17:59

Mysinglepringle · 24/08/2024 13:15

No they aren't. It killed my uncle and cousin.

I am so sorry that happened to your uncle and cousin. There seem to be a lot of entitled/totally stupid/rules-are-for-other-people/it does no harm posters on here, with no idea that they are breaking rules that are there for everyone's safety.
It almost makes me hope some will be caught doing this and get fined and points.

Zanatdy · 25/08/2024 17:58

It is horrible when you need a wee badly. I remember so vividly being 10 and on a coach to holiday hotel from airport and I was so desperate I was crying. Never forgotten it. I do think it was dangerous though and people get killed on lay-by’s - a wet car seat would have been preferable. You might well get a fine and I think you have to just suck it up