AIBU to say it's not "ect"

I thought I was the only person left in the world who uses different from, and is irritated by different to. Also drilled into me by my mum.

But I think I have to accept that language has changed, and it's a losing battle.

The problem with grammar is it's a total mindfield.
Should of gifted them a dictionary.

<shudders and rocks>

Regardless of whether it's rude, people simply don't learn to use language correctly by being criticised by a few random people on the internet (struggling against the huge tide of influence by the gazillions of incorrect examples also on the internet). Some people absord SPaG easily. Many do not, even if they were taught as kids.

It's hard enough to get these rules to stick in people's heads when you're actually in front of them and they're there to learn (as I have good cause to know!). All anyone achieves by correcting strangers is self-satisfaction and pissing people off. Most clearly only do it to look superior anyway, however much they may pretend it's some kind of public service!

Speaking as someone who has always struggled with literacy years ago at school you were out on the slow table no great support
it can be soul destroying for some smug self righteous twat pointing out your errors

for the life of me I can’t see the need
I think anyone who does this is no better than a bully

Anyone who has ever read my posts know my spelling, grammar and punctuation is terrible as is many people's and I can't say it bothers me or has any effect on my life but I'm really interested to know if the people who this is important to fit into a certain demographic. Whether it's based on age, education, if they read a lot, if their poor etc so il go first I'm 22 didn't really go to school much past 12, I don't read (I can but dont) and I live in a poor area. I don't need to read or write in daily life for my job, I do read to my kids.

And wollah, a whole thread appears.
First time I saw the use of 'wollah' it took me ages to get what they meant

Regarding Americanisms, I went to a coffee shop and they said "Hi, welcome to X. What can I get started for you today?".

It took all of my strength not to tell the person off there and then.

People write ect because they don’t know it’s etc.

Strangest one for me is 'none of us/them was...'
I know it's correct, because it's
not one of us/them was
But it still seems wrong and so much easier to say
'none of us/them were'
😁

‘Saw’ is past tense and can be used on its own. E.g., I saw a zebra.
‘Seen’ has to be used with another verb such as ‘have’. E.g., I have (I’ve) seen a zebra before.

I get annoyed by incorrect plurals.

Yes, I am a grammar pedant. I own it and delight in it.

Well, if you were hit by a phaser, you'd certainly be fazed!

Annoying people! 😡

@Jacopo and it worked, didn't it? The advantage of rotes and drills at school is that it gives everyone the same base knowledge, if you don't give that base knowledge, literacy outcomes depends too much on socio-economic factors.

I think I'm almost at the point that I'd tolerate some simplified spellings (cleek being a good example) if they produced the correct pronunciation. People aren't to blame for not knowing.

I've got a soft spot for that one. It's very appropriate, despite its wrongness.

I couldn't marry or even date a man who "fort" this.😖

Should be et cetera.

There’s a woman whose tutorials I follow on YouTube for my hobby who pronounces it eck cetera. I tense up every time I hear it!

@IceCreamWoes you could of posted this in another topic eg pedants corner 😁

@QuiMoi Regarding your last point, the reason is that we were taught grammar in detail at primary school in the 1950s and 1960s. We did many drills on, for example, plurals - the plural of man is men, the plural of woman is women and so on. We did tests on these things all the time. We also learned more obscure things such as collective nouns, a ‘murder of crows’ being one memorable but not particularly useful example.

In France grammar is a core course subject in schools (separate from 'French' which is more of a spelling/comprehension and in time, literary course).
So grammar (rules, exception, irregular verbs, tenses) is taught formally from the age of 5/6 years to about 14/15; a long time is devoted to making sure you master your own language. All teachers without exception have impeccable grammar and spelling.
It used to be unusual for anyone to have bad grammar, but things are changing, sadly, for many reasons, but bad spelling or bad grammar will still disqualify you from many jobs or opportunities; it's still a very low bar in selection standards.
Languages are taught in the same way, grammar is separate to the spoken word. English has a vast vocabulary but is grammatically a very simple language - ask almost any foreigner.
I don't know why so many people can't write or speak it properly, but I have noticed that the older generation as a whole - even those from very modest backgrounds - don't seem to have this problem.

Being a pedant is great fun. I learned it from my dad. Oddly Dp finds it less funny than I do. Ah well.

And it's ask. Not aks.

It's great fun being a pedant though, essentially it's extremely annoying and it goes up a level of annoyingness (no, I know that isn't a word 😑) when posted in the wrong topic... it's great fun, seriously 😁

1 Are you the AIBU police? (mumsnet standard question)
2 You missed out an apostrophe