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To think she’s lying? Or do companies really do this?

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BlazingSunsh · 23/08/2024 20:10

A friend I have got closer to over recent months told me that she fell out with her employer, a law firm, and was paid 70k if she agreed to leave without further fuss. She was on 90k at the time. The dispute was over her workload/what she had been given and how she felt she had been blocked to progress. The company disagreed but wanted her to leave so apparently offered this? I find this totally unbelievable?! 70k with no tax? Do these things happen?! If so I want to try it as that’s basically two years of my entire income after tax!

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Mumofoneandone · 23/08/2024 20:34

Taxed over £30k but equally she shouldn't be discussing it with anyone! Settlement agreement usually involve non disclosure clause. Very unwise of your friend - company could go after her for the money back, compensation re reputational damage.

DinnaeFashYersel · 23/08/2024 20:33

It's called a settlement agreement.

It's usually cheaper and less hassle than performance management and a disciplinary process. And no risk of a tribunal at the end.

Those I've been involved with usually pay out about 6 months salary plus notice.

Tax must be paid on notice pay and an compensation over £30k.

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 23/08/2024 20:33

BlazingSunsh · 23/08/2024 20:14

@Hectorscalling what on earth

Someone tell me what fuss I have to make to get one of these 😂

You understand you then have NO JOB? You can't live off that amount of money for long and you also forgo bonuses and pension contributions. So nobody wants to actually put themselves out of a job.

sunseaandsoundingoff · 23/08/2024 20:33

Wait till you find out that in big tech companies some people are hired without the company even having or intending to ever have a job for them, they pay them a salary and get them on the books purely because they don't want a competitor to have them. They do no work and get paid to be at home doing whatever they like.

BIossomtoes · 23/08/2024 20:32

Tigger1895 · 23/08/2024 20:15

She could be on gardening leave, which means she’s unable to work for anyone else for 3-6 months

You can have two employers simultaneously. You just have to pay tax on everything you earn in the second one.

Lovethat · 23/08/2024 20:31

The first £30000 of your lump sum is tax free.

My company put me on garden leave for 3 months so I paid tax on 3 months salary, they also gave me a further 4 months salary as a lump sum, approx £25000. So entirely possible your friend had that lump sum.

EveryKneeShallBow · 23/08/2024 20:29

I left a job in 2012 for one year’s salary and my legal fees paid.

Allie47 · 23/08/2024 20:28

Yes it happens all the time, I handled a dozen of these agreements last year but not for that amount. Only the first 30k is tax free though.

Cherandcheralike · 23/08/2024 20:26

We had someone do this although less money. He was threatening people at work but we couldn't prove any of it then saying he was being discriminated against. Really pissed me off because tribunals are there to protect those who need it, not to give poor performers a payout when they get found out.

Hectorscalling · 23/08/2024 20:25

The other thing to think about though, is future employment.

I know someone who did this. And could get another law firm to take her on.

Notonthesamepage · 23/08/2024 20:25

Once you are sufficiently senior, you just don't walk with nothing. Compromise agreements are pretty standard, even expected. Often get to keep their shares too so paid out under share plans several years after leaving!

Flyonthewall01 · 23/08/2024 20:21

Yes did this with someone on my team. She went on long term sick leave just as she was about to be fired so it was cheaper to get her to agree to go with a golden handshake then to fire her on sick leave and risk tribunal/ continue to pay her sick pay

DrFoxtrot · 23/08/2024 20:21

I want to point out that my last post was not aimed at anyone legitimately taking a company to tribunal!

We had someone take us to tribunal and we won, we paid them the necessary notice and leave payments and they bragged locally about the 'payout' they'd been awarded!

Sorry about using my personal experience to cloud my posts in this way!

Hectorscalling · 23/08/2024 20:20

BlazingSunsh · 23/08/2024 20:15

@FriendlyNeighbourhoodAccountant well my friend has no real basis to complain, it was very much embellished and she admitted that as it was going on!

Part of her complaint was that her progress was blocked.

The company may have actually done that. And if thetes any hint they did taht eb ause she was a woman, it makes sense to pay her off. Usually a bigger pay out is when the company isn't certain they did everything correctly and that a tribunal would be costly for them.

She may say it's embellished. But she doesn't know what conversations or other things have happened, that she doesn't know about. They may believe she could claim sex discrimination and so paid her off. Since there's a lot of sexist behaviour in the corporate world, wouldn't surprise me if they thought she might win.

PigOnStiIts · 23/08/2024 20:20

It means nothing when you’re watching it dwindle every month…..secure income every time for me!

SeulementUneFois · 23/08/2024 20:20

Consider that whatever the rights and wrongs of the issue, the person is leaving suddenly without having secured another job to go to.
That can look strange to future employers. Plus there may be whispered rumours from the ex colleagues, even if just based on the suddenness of leaving (more so if any details are leaked).
All potentially awkward and off-putting to potential other employers in the same industry.
So the money is partially for that risk - of finding it harder to get another job fast.

Pigeonqueen · 23/08/2024 20:19

I worked in accounts for a London media company in the late 1990s. They paid £36k to someone as a “golden hello” when they poached them from another agency, on top of their £120k salary, and then when they realised they didn’t like them they paid them £85k lump sum to get rid of them 6 months later! 😳. I was on £14.5k as an accounts assistant and remember thinking what huge sums of money it all was.

Octavia64 · 23/08/2024 20:18

Yes I know people this has happened to.

DrFoxtrot · 23/08/2024 20:17

It also sometimes happen that the company are in the right but do not want to spend time and money fighting something, even if they might win. Kicking up a fuss to try to get a pay out will end up with you getting a reputation in the industry, people aren't stupid.

XenoBitch · 23/08/2024 20:16

My DP was given a "golden goodbye" to leave his last job, also under the condition he did not take them to tribunal. He was on about £30k.

BlazingSunsh · 23/08/2024 20:16

DrFoxtrot · 23/08/2024 20:14

Yes they do, bear in mind she probably had 3 months notice, or so, in her contract so some of the 70k will cover that, and annual leave entitlement. And the rest a payment to go away quietly.

@DrFoxtrot didnt think of it like that, suppose that makes more sense

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Tigger1895 · 23/08/2024 20:15

She could be on gardening leave, which means she’s unable to work for anyone else for 3-6 months

violetsparkle · 23/08/2024 20:15

Yup.

Usually when someone has been discriminated against and they want them to go quietly.

ScaryGabbyGabby · 23/08/2024 20:15

They do, a years salary is common I think. I know my own employer has done this, and know a colleague who recently has got £50k from her employer.
It makes it easier in some cases to get rid of people without risking them trying to go to tribunal ( whether they have a case or not) and having to pay legal fees and a drawn out process.

BlazingSunsh · 23/08/2024 20:15

FriendlyNeighbourhoodAccountant · 23/08/2024 20:13

They aren't tax free. Settlement agreements are taxed as usual wages.

What do you mean you want to try it? Settlements that high are usually because the company has been doing something very wrong and would rather settle than be on the receiving end of an employment tribunal. They don't go handing out money willy nilly.

@FriendlyNeighbourhoodAccountant well my friend has no real basis to complain, it was very much embellished and she admitted that as it was going on!

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