Has the left now met the right, shaken hands with it then stuck 2 fingers up at the general population?

Is the afghan embassy still there? It’s a shame I’ll be out of the country for a while otherwise I would have stood outside and talked LOUDLY for a few hours. Fucking bastards.

It’s not just Tate is it, it’s all the the incel types, people supporting gender ideology, people encouraging conservative religious practices, our courts don’t seem to be able to jail people for crimes against women and children (plenty of men have been freed despite having vast amounts of CSE material).

It’s fucking appalling. I’m not sure if I’m depressed or furious.

Same.

We have gone backwards...thanks to the likes of Tate and all his misogynistic followers.

That Germanine Greer quote about women not knowing how much men hate them is really starting to ring true.

Reading more about Afghanistan and also the Aus case I agree with you op

Both male ideologies that are dangerous to women

They use various parts of society to propagate the harm

The men who hate women I think have an envy, whether conscious or unconscious, that women can do one thing that they NEVER can - bring new life into the world. They can equal and even potentially surpass women in every aspect of life, but the one thing they can't do is bear children and they hate that, that there is something that is 100% impossible for them to achieve above women.

I’d happily send every afghan man back and exchange for the women. I’m sorry but I really struggle to give a fuck about men these days, they are often either ignoring or enabling the subjugation of women. 87% of afghan women and girls experience domestic abuse.

This.

You're absolutely right OP. Just two sides of the same misogynist coin.

They'd only end up sending for their husbands and we'd be lumbered with them.

Afghanistan though, women can’t even speak loudly in their own homes in case a man outside hears her. Just WTF. I think we should have an open door asylum policy for afghan women.

Yep. I’m sure it’s been pointed out already, but men need something from us that they can’t get elsewhere or do without. It’s fundamental to their survival that they control access to us as a resource. We can’t be allowed autonomy. I mean, it’s probably deeply hidden in their subconscious but that fundamental need to feel in control seems pretty ingrained. They seem to need to consciously restructure themselves to accommodate women as autonomous beings.

I grew up during the 80’s and 90’s, it was so positive, women were making gains in so many areas, it felt like feminism had won. It feels like weve gone backwards but worse.

Oh yes, this really.

The far right: Women are private property.
The far left: Women are public property.

Either way, women’s needs and rights are not as important as men’s.

YANBU

That's pretty much me.

As Colin Wright put it...

The Left get very upset if you dare to criticise these extremist Right Wing Anti Woman religions/ideologies...because being Anti Woman is a left and right wing feature.

Because the Earth is a sphere, I'd have thought.

Except why would you meet in the middle?? If one goes one way and one goes another.

Annoying quote, 😆

OK let me change that for you. We should all have the freedom to be in a space where only our own sex/gender can access. Either entirely or on a timed basis.

No, not gender! Only sex. That's been the problem!

Religion

Yep, yanbu.
There is pretty much nothing to choose between incels, TRAs and their 'bekind' handmaidens, and the most regressive interpretations of religion.
My only issue with what you've said is the use of 'left' and 'right'. There seems to me to be nothing remotely left wing about a bunch of middle class rich white men bankrolling the decimation of women's rights. Just as it doesn't seem to me specifically 'right wing' to state biological facts and fight for female equality.
It's all smoke and mirrors. Rich men and global corporations have to pretend that they're not desecrating the planet and social justice. The easiest way currently to do that is obviously not to stop their behaviours (imagine if sweatshops, and zero hrs contracts, and taxpayer underwriting of rampant destructive capitalism didn't exist - they wouldn't be half as rich) but to witter on about the social justice of centering the rights of men. Boxes ticked, and the rights of pesky women taken away. Marvelous.

OK let me change that for you. We should all have the freedom to be in a space where only our own sex/gender can access. Either entirely or on a timed basis.

We all should have the freedom to have our own spaces with likeminded individuals.
In what way does "being female" mean my mind is like another female person's?

I agree that women should have single-sex spaces, but not on the basis that women supposedly agree on things!