Bayesian tragedy over reported

I was only saying this to my OH the other night about "Below Deck" we love it but there was an episode a year or so ago when the Cpt & First Mate went to bed & left one of the lads on overnight duty & a storm came & he was dragging his heels about waking the crew & he got the head eaten off him, rightly so, things change pretty fast at sea but with satellite etc what happened to The Bayesian shouldn't have happened

I know that the rich & famous always draw click but it's more than that & exactly what you said, an unprecedented tragic, freak accident

Does anyone else suspect foul play regarding this yacht sinking, after a "water spout" freak weather event?
The Italian ship builder chief executive has hinted that the crew were responsible, they must have left a hatch open.
Regarding the very recent court case, Hewlett Packard must have been fuming, as they thought the company they bought had a hugely inflated valuation, therefore instigated the fraud case, which cleared both co defendants. They must have had a very clued in, clever lawyer, who also died on the yacht along with his wife.
This happened in the early hours of Monday 19th August, hours after the co defendant, Mr. Chamberlain, died in a road accident on Saturday 17th August. Of course it could be a coincidence . . . . .

A bit unfair, I think! Its a combination of both.

I think there's probably a lot more news to come once the boat is recovered and examined. In theory it should not have sunk. It's the boat making news rather than the people on board

Jay Slater and Michael Mosely were I'm the headlines until their bodies were found.

A huge yacht capsizing I guess creates more news (rightly or wrongly) because it isn't a regular occurrence. I think the migrant boats sinking, or people drowning gets less coverage because it has happened time and again. It is no less sad for the people involved but I imagine news outlets don't report it because a) it isn't an isolated incident and b) the victims are essentially anonymous.

Some people are finding it hard to understand that reporting ordinary people dying would always be somewhat different to reporting the death of someone who was quite extraordinary. Maybe it is "unfair", but this was always the way!

I bet they were moaning about Queen's funeral, too - why all the fuss, some privileged old lady...

This.

If you look at your local newspaper online you will see tons of murders and serious crimes that go unreported by the national news.

I think this. I felt so sad about the mum and her three beautiful children but I am however intrigued by the (also sad) yacht story. It doesn’t make the deaths on the boat more or less sad.

I think some people on here have no distinction between "privileged" and an "achiever". Maybe read up on Mike Lynch before you post this shit about "privileged white man"? Guy was literally from Ilford, one of the shitty areas of London, mum was a nurse, dad was a firefighter. And yet, he died a billionaire because of his software company he set up while still at Uni, he had PhD in artificial intelligence and was universally considered a UK's version of Bill Gates. Hardly a rich playboy born with a silver spoon in his mouth, no?

It is big news and suspicious as hell given the death of the other guy.

I agree. I can't care about people who have probably had the best and most privileged time on this earth.

Well I don't suspect foul play it was a tornado

It was all just a coincidence

Very sad: https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/23/tribute-hannah-lynch-mike-bayesian-sicily

The poor, poor girl

It's news because it is unusual. There are very few billionaires and an even spaller proportion of them die on big shiny yachts. We are still talking about the titanic over 100 years later.

There are many migrants in boats. There are many people bitten by dangerous dogs. There are many women killed by men that they are in a relationship with, or are trying to leave. These things are all sadly so common that they cease to be news any more.

There were a lot of yachts sunk in Carriacou in the Caribbean in July, due to Hurricane Beryl.

But those were generally small yachts so not newsworthy in the same way, and in a developing country, unlike Italy.

I am waiting for an official report for the reasons why, as there have been lots of speculation and blame throwing going on, and while I have seen some commentary about things that make good sense to me with some sailing background, I don't know enough about boats of that size nor of the waters around the area to know if those can be trusted. And the high net worth of the owner and his guests will make a lot of people try to move any potential blame far away from themselves.

^ This

No idea who was on board this super boat🤷🏼‍♀️ the coverage reminds me of the submersible that imploded (Titan).

Agreed. At best there was some kind of terrible negligence or major design flaw.

It's truly unusual and I think everyone in the yaching industry is following it closely for that reason.

I think people who don't know much about yachting could easily assume that this was somehow normal but it's hugely strange.

I did see a theory that the keel wasn't fully down but I expect it is going to take a long time before there are any clear conclusions. I guess hopefully meteorological data will assist too

It's actually very rare for yachts to sink like that, that's part of what makes it so newsworthy.

Yes - the yacht’s makers thought there could be enough air trapped in pockets inside the hull for someone to survive for about 140 hours. A small chance of survival but still a chance.

People would also presume a boat of that size, cost, spec would be self righting, 'unsinkable' so it was not protected by the money invested in it. The occupants of the boat obviously cause public interest.
There were surviving occupants of the super yacht, so hopefully, light will be shed on the reality of the tragedy.

Channel migrants in boats are in barely seaworthy boats and attempt to enter the country illegally. The reasons for trying are viewed suspiciously by huge numbers. They aren't going to garner the same personal interest if it goes wrong.

No, I don't think so. I think it would have had the same level of reportage without the court case and the coincidence.

The coincidence has had the briefest of mentions really. But doubtless there are now hundreds of journalists all over this digging deeper. It will be interesting to read their findings - meanwhile, everything else feels all out of proportion.

To be fair the BBC is struggling for stories as this just popped up.
Nick Grimshaw's villa burgled during Ibiza trip www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg2zpz8ddmo

You're quite right, the whole thing has completely passed me by.