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Bayesian tragedy over reported

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sadabouti · 23/08/2024 16:59

AIBU to think that this tragedy is being vastly over reported simply because it involved very rich people? Why did it require live coverage or the effort to recover bodies on major news channels.

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EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 24/08/2024 08:38

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Honestly that’s such a rude comment. Demanding someone ‘seek therapy’. I’m rarely offended but I find that offensive.

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 24/08/2024 08:38

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You seem to totally miss the point. Aside from the fact that kids opening exam results coverage took half a day, and most new stories come and go. This one seemed like 24/h coverage with reporters filming bodies being brought to the shore, the same footage being shown over and over, literally no new stuff, just basking in the tragedy and repeating the same phrases- all while OTHER stuff going on around the world was totally ommited.
Similarly to the Titanic submarine, people obsessed over every detail of it hundred times over.

HelenWheels · 24/08/2024 08:24

i know what you mean about the Live Feed
i guess people follow them

sadabouti · 24/08/2024 08:19

Just to be clear again. It's obviously a tragedy. My question was whether others thought it was being over reported. I agree with the posters pointing out that August is a slow news month, and perhaps there is an ease to reporting this to fill space and time on 24 hour news channels. I suppose it's a summer story, given that it's about a tragedy on holiday, like Jay Slater. Though in that case it was a missing persons case first (on land, which is obvs more survivable than being lost at sea).

I still think Bayesian is over reported. But have no strong feelings on it after that. Bad weather, crew mistakes, boat sank, sadly guests died (including a colourful tech entrepreneur, his lawyer and banker), but some survived, including a baby thankfully. Investigation may provide more detail of why it happened in due course. That's the story, the rest is navel gazing and speculation because of the money angle.

For those asking if I'm jealous. No I'm not jealous of people who have drowned in a ship wreck. I feel sorry for them and sad for their families.

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Starlingexpress · 24/08/2024 08:16

See also Tommy and Molly Mae ‘break up’ as ‘breaking news’.

This is a terrible tragedy and I have every sympathy for the families but I’m not sure the rolling coverage, including photographs of bodies being lifted into rescue boats and body bags being transferred over at the port is necessary.

It’s already given legs to wild conspiracy theories which people seem to get a real kick from. See also Jay Slater.

I’d love it if people were as invested in news coverage about the numbers of people suffering and dying because of worsening cancer waiting times but sadly that doesn’t generate as msny clicks.

sadabouti · 24/08/2024 08:07

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BitOutOfPractice · 24/08/2024 07:21

Thepeopleversuswork · 23/08/2024 17:11

I think there’s also the hint of a conspiracy theory here because of Mike Lynch’s background and the fact his codefendent in the Autonomy trial was killed in mysterious circumstances a couple of days before. And the fact he was well connected with the security services.

Its very strange indeed. I am not a conspiracy theorist but I can see why it makes people wonder if there was more to this than meets the eye.

Plus the human tragedy and the freak weather. I can see why it’s a huge story.

I agree op. But this odd part of the story, the death of Mike Lynch’s co-defendant a few days before - which I think takes this from tragedy for the families to something else - is hardly mentioned.

Having said all that I did weep at the tributes to Hannah yesterday. So so sad for her family. I keep thinking of her mom and sister and their Awful loss.

Ginmonkeyagain · 24/08/2024 07:18

It's newsworthy because it involves well known/ successful British people, it's an unusual event and there was an ongoing rescue effort and now the mystery of why it sank. Plus August is a slow news month.

It has all the features of a long running news story - human interest - rich successful people, a mystery, tragedy It also has technical interest - the rescue effort, details the boat.

Migrant boat sinkings are reported but there is no mystery - everyone knows why the boats sink and by their very nature these oats are undocumented and unknown - so the names and stories of the people impacted cannot reported on in the first few news cycles.

FinalInstructionstotheAudience · 24/08/2024 07:15

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MillyMollyMandHey · 24/08/2024 07:01

dottiehens · 24/08/2024 06:57

Why does it bother you so much? Is it because you hate rich people?

Jealousy.

MintyNew · 24/08/2024 06:59

To have the UK's first software billionaire extradited to America in chains and facing up to 25 years in prison came as a huge shock.

Shock to who? Surely just to their own families? This is really irrelevant to the lives of everyday people. A shock to you maybe.

dottiehens · 24/08/2024 06:57

Why does it bother you so much? Is it because you hate rich people?

HelenWheels · 24/08/2024 06:45

poor man was living under house arrest in america for 12 months before he was cleared

Clafoutie · 24/08/2024 06:37

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Are you suggesting that someone manufactured the storm and water spout?

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 24/08/2024 05:52

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There were a few eye witnesses that spoke to the press on the day.

The car accident was not like Princess Di, it's only mysterious after the yacht sunk but no one bat an eyelid when it happened and it got zero coverage.

5Bagatelles · 24/08/2024 04:53

YABU. It's an extraordinary and tragic story for anyone that followed Mike Lynch's 12-year legal batte. To have the UK's first software billionaire extradited to America in chains and facing up to 25 years in prison came as a huge shock. Despite 0.5% chance of being acquitted, he maintained his innocence and went to trial and WON. Weeks later dies in a freak accident along with others involved in the trial a few days after his co-defendant was hit by a car and killed. Astonishing. The level of media interest is appropriate.

ThreeLocusts · 24/08/2024 04:24

Totally agree OP. I was traveling and watching BBC news at the hotel - for three days this story came up first whenever I switched on.

Note that at first they didn't even know yet that rich people with influenc were on board, but there was already a 'live feed'.

I think the practical reasons mentioned up thread must play a big role (lots of footage, ease/attractiveness of travel to site, low cost).

But also the sheer weirdness if it all. It sounds like HP got a competent witch doctor on the case (was traveling in Tanzania, where that thought comes to mind easily).

And as billionaires go, Mike Lynch sounds an OK bloke. A rare case of Cambridge actually fostering social mobility.

It's all very 'death, the great equaliser'. I've read more about it than justified too.

Edingril · 24/08/2024 03:28

Every news story can be picked apart whether it is over or under reported the way the headline is written or not who they interview or not what details are let out or not

I just think people need to come up with conspiracies because they have whatever issues going on

QueenBitch666 · 24/08/2024 03:09

Schadenfreude and morbid interest. Surely no one ( if they're honest ) actually cares?

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sadabouti · 23/08/2024 16:59

AIBU to think that this tragedy is being vastly over reported simply because it involved very rich people? Why did it require live coverage or the effort to recover bodies on major news channels.

I totally agree. Yes it should be reported and updated and it IS a tragedy for the families.and friends of those involved, but do we really know the ins and outs of the yacht design, reporters on the scene even though no news coming through.
As a pp stated 16 anonymous people died in a dingy but noone is vastly over reporting on that tragedy.

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Clafoutie · 23/08/2024 23:25

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The tornado was a water spout, they occur quite frequently in the Mediterranean.
The event was witnessed.

FinalInstructionstotheAudience · 23/08/2024 23:21

Another pop at the rich.

Agapornis · 23/08/2024 23:09

A few reasons:

  • It was anchored about 500m from the coast, and therefore very easy to get footage of or stand at the coast and look important.
  • Palermo is very cheap and easy to travel to and stay for a few days.
  • Some Italian media is much like the UK's red tops and will prefer to report on the super rich, i.e. more reporters to buy footage from

Compare that to poor, unpopular migrants dying in a dinghy in the middle of the sea.

I heard a journalist saying that they weren't allowed near the hotel where the survivors were put up, poor journo 🙄 I hate that they were apparently filming the actual bodies being taken out of the sea - I'm avoiding any footage.

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