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verityrosa · 23/08/2024 16:18

Sorry I don’t know where else to post this to hopefully reach the people that seen the post about me! I joined as someone messaged me on tik tok and told me there was a thread on here about me! I had a public tik tok account with some very dark humour on there and photos and videos of my kids. Well I have actually deactivated that account so thanks the people that were harsh to me and said what I probably needed to hear. Thanks to you my kids are no longer being shared on social media, no sharing my life with the world and no viral videos that a lot of people found offensive especially as my kids were in the videos.
i promise I’m not a bad person. Just a mum with a disabled child and find life hard and use dark humour as a coping mechanism but I have never started that account with the aim of going viral and making money etc. it’s just not worth it though I have to think about my kids and their privacy etc so thank you.

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verityrosa · 23/08/2024 18:53

Deadbeatex · 23/08/2024 18:44

I remember the thread about you and whilst I've never seen your TikToks I did find the dark humour about your favourite kid funny, you went too far with the shake the baby bit but humour is subjective and we all find different things funny 🤷🏼‍♀️
One thing I'm getting from reading your posts is that you are very quick to listen to other people's opinions, do you have much confidence in yourself and your decisions? I've found MN helpful for a lot of different things and it's definitely opened my eyes to new ways about thinking about a situation but please don't change who you are as a person just because anonymous people in your phone tell you how you should behave/raise your children. Sure take on board different opinions but trust yourself to make the final decision, you know your kids, your DH, your life etc way better than anybody else.
You'll find some right twats on here that spend their days posting shite on people's threads just to shit stir and attack and cause trouble, ignore the goady fuckers cos most of us are sound and are here to lift each other up not tear each other down.
If you enjoy doing tiktok dances etc and that's your release then crack on, just check with your kids first if they want to be a part of it or not. You can still have a tiktok account that's for you and doesn't show your kids, talks about them

No I really don’t 😂 I’ve got something called borderline personality disorder and one of the things with it is not really knowing who I am. When I started using social media, I found peoples comments Iike ‘you’re so funny’ or you’re so strong or whatever, really helpful because I can see who I am by other people describing me. I’m the sort of adult that looks for a grown up to help me when I’m out. I feel the same as I did when I was 15.

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SensibleSigma · 23/08/2024 18:51

verityrosa · 23/08/2024 18:41

and with sport, I just don’t get it. Say it’s football, everyone wears the same kit, man or woman. Eveyone plays the same sport. But from like the age of 10 you need to play with your own sex. So if there is a trans woman, they still should play in the mens team. But it’s not taking away their right to be a trans woman, like everyone is wearing the same kit and no one cares what you wear normally or ahah you do in your spare time if that makes ANY sense what I’m trying to say 😂 on the pitch it doesn’t even matter what gender you are they just want you to play good football. But if you’re born a man you need to be on the mens team. Just to do the sport. We don’t need to have mixed gender teams

It’s the common sense approach but strangely absent in the real world- at least the part that’s allowed to speak.

It’s a hot topic here because there were so few other places prepared to allow the conversation to happen- and it was dicey here, at times. It’s very heated because good women left this site over what we were and weren’t allowed to say. People fell out with the moderating team, and were banned, and it was a sad era. However, sensible and respectful guidance emerged and we have a way to discuss things. There are ‘monitors’ who sit and read and report us for misgendering, being insulting and so on. And a few who show admirable persistence in turning up to tell us we’re wrong.

We had to argue here for the right to refer to a convicted rapist as ‘he’, when the courts were insisting on using ‘she’. That was a win for us, and it’s actually been a win in the courts as well.

So that’s a hot button subject- just giving you the background so you know what to expect.

verityrosa · 23/08/2024 18:50

Uricon2 · 23/08/2024 18:41

I'm glad you've done what you have OP, but please don't joke about shaken babies. If you've ever seen the horrible outcome of this, you wouldn't find it funny. It really isn't and I am known for having an extremely dark SOH, when it comes to my own life. Not so much tiny babies who will never see and need constant care because of what was done to them.

I’m honestly not trying to defend myself but just to explain the background behind that ‘joke’ for you or anyone that might just be tinning why did she even mention shaking babies. It was because I had a comment on the other video about the free car, money and no ride queues I get with my son, that was also a joke by the way. Someone commented and said ‘I want one of those! How can I get one?’ So I had that comment on my video and my answer below it was 1- make a baby with someone in Bristol. It worked for me. They’re all special there. And 2- shake a normal one. But that’s frowned upon.
my son is 16 and I’ve had people be nasty to me about him before saying I must of done drugs or dropped him for him to be that way. I have definitely not done those things and I find it hurtful that anyone could think I made him disabled. When I use dark humour I turn round the things that have hurt me and feel a bit like powerful in a way. Like I’m taking the piss out of those stupid people and the things they have said to me. It doesn’t mean it’s ok for me to share that with the world though and I don’t want to upset anyone!

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Deadbeatex · 23/08/2024 18:44

I remember the thread about you and whilst I've never seen your TikToks I did find the dark humour about your favourite kid funny, you went too far with the shake the baby bit but humour is subjective and we all find different things funny 🤷🏼‍♀️
One thing I'm getting from reading your posts is that you are very quick to listen to other people's opinions, do you have much confidence in yourself and your decisions? I've found MN helpful for a lot of different things and it's definitely opened my eyes to new ways about thinking about a situation but please don't change who you are as a person just because anonymous people in your phone tell you how you should behave/raise your children. Sure take on board different opinions but trust yourself to make the final decision, you know your kids, your DH, your life etc way better than anybody else.
You'll find some right twats on here that spend their days posting shite on people's threads just to shit stir and attack and cause trouble, ignore the goady fuckers cos most of us are sound and are here to lift each other up not tear each other down.
If you enjoy doing tiktok dances etc and that's your release then crack on, just check with your kids first if they want to be a part of it or not. You can still have a tiktok account that's for you and doesn't show your kids, talks about them

verityrosa · 23/08/2024 18:41

BreadInCaptivity · 23/08/2024 18:26

Re: trans issues.

It's a red herring.

MN is not a transphobic site. Trans activists just like to use that term to try and stop us talking about women's rights when they come into conflict with that of men.

An example may be should a woman be able to refuse an intimate exam from a male person who identifies as female? Or should men who identify as female compete in female sports?

There were some very dark days when MN was one of very few SM sites that allowed any discussion at all on this topic.

Credit to MMHQ that they stood firm (despite many threats and loss of ad income).

It's an oft used quote but like many others I joined MN to talk about parenting. I've stayed predominantly because of the feminism boards.

and with sport, I just don’t get it. Say it’s football, everyone wears the same kit, man or woman. Eveyone plays the same sport. But from like the age of 10 you need to play with your own sex. So if there is a trans woman, they still should play in the mens team. But it’s not taking away their right to be a trans woman, like everyone is wearing the same kit and no one cares what you wear normally or ahah you do in your spare time if that makes ANY sense what I’m trying to say 😂 on the pitch it doesn’t even matter what gender you are they just want you to play good football. But if you’re born a man you need to be on the mens team. Just to do the sport. We don’t need to have mixed gender teams

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Uricon2 · 23/08/2024 18:41

I'm glad you've done what you have OP, but please don't joke about shaken babies. If you've ever seen the horrible outcome of this, you wouldn't find it funny. It really isn't and I am known for having an extremely dark SOH, when it comes to my own life. Not so much tiny babies who will never see and need constant care because of what was done to them.

SensibleSigma · 23/08/2024 18:36

verityrosa · 23/08/2024 18:33

Ok yeah I see what was meant by that comment now. I swear I’m not transphobic and someone will come along and say I am when I say this, but one time in a coach station a very obvious man came in the women’s toilets. He was dressed in women’s clothing. It made me feel uncomfortable but I wouldn’t have said that out loud and didn’t want to offend him. I also know I’m meant to say her not him, but I find all this stuff hard to get my head round.

Then you’ll feel at home here. It’s absolutely fine to be uncomfortable with that. But someone will be along shortly to scold us, don’t worry.

Women evolved to recognise the threat that an unknown male poses when they’re somewhere they aren’t supposed to be.

I won’t be told how to feel.

verityrosa · 23/08/2024 18:33

BreadInCaptivity · 23/08/2024 18:26

Re: trans issues.

It's a red herring.

MN is not a transphobic site. Trans activists just like to use that term to try and stop us talking about women's rights when they come into conflict with that of men.

An example may be should a woman be able to refuse an intimate exam from a male person who identifies as female? Or should men who identify as female compete in female sports?

There were some very dark days when MN was one of very few SM sites that allowed any discussion at all on this topic.

Credit to MMHQ that they stood firm (despite many threats and loss of ad income).

It's an oft used quote but like many others I joined MN to talk about parenting. I've stayed predominantly because of the feminism boards.

Ok yeah I see what was meant by that comment now. I swear I’m not transphobic and someone will come along and say I am when I say this, but one time in a coach station a very obvious man came in the women’s toilets. He was dressed in women’s clothing. It made me feel uncomfortable but I wouldn’t have said that out loud and didn’t want to offend him. I also know I’m meant to say her not him, but I find all this stuff hard to get my head round.

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ShinyNewMe · 23/08/2024 18:32

Question to you all tho - do you share stuff on a private Facebook page or insta? Or never post at all?

Never post at all. I'm not even on Facebook or insta.

verityrosa · 23/08/2024 18:30

wippandzipp · 23/08/2024 18:21

I like the anonymity that is possible on MN with user names and name changes possible. I don't like to share personal things, nor do my family, we dont do it on any SM sites. But as OP mentions their are some people on MN who post really useful information and are well informed on particular topics, pensions and legal stuff, which is useful. I've never felt the need to overshare in RL either and only do that with very close friends. Everyone is different. I just don't see the point of it.

I’m definitely a massive over sharer. My other half doesn’t even have any social media. He doesn’t see the point either!! My Facebook account is private and I only have people I know on there so if I just stick to that it’s still a good change from having a public Tik tok. I don’t share any dark humour type stuff on my Facebook. I would never have posted that sort of thing for my parents and elderly relatives to see!

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BreadInCaptivity · 23/08/2024 18:26

Re: trans issues.

It's a red herring.

MN is not a transphobic site. Trans activists just like to use that term to try and stop us talking about women's rights when they come into conflict with that of men.

An example may be should a woman be able to refuse an intimate exam from a male person who identifies as female? Or should men who identify as female compete in female sports?

There were some very dark days when MN was one of very few SM sites that allowed any discussion at all on this topic.

Credit to MMHQ that they stood firm (despite many threats and loss of ad income).

It's an oft used quote but like many others I joined MN to talk about parenting. I've stayed predominantly because of the feminism boards.

CeruleanDive · 23/08/2024 18:24

Taluulaah · 23/08/2024 17:59

Maybe not, but considering she’s trying to apologise for that behaviour, when you bring it up repeatedly it might come off like you’re being a dick about it. Think pp was maybe just saying that you made your point, n to give it a rest now and ease off on the (repeated) criticism so OP feels like she’s welcome here.

JFC, give over.

wippandzipp · 23/08/2024 18:21

I like the anonymity that is possible on MN with user names and name changes possible. I don't like to share personal things, nor do my family, we dont do it on any SM sites. But as OP mentions their are some people on MN who post really useful information and are well informed on particular topics, pensions and legal stuff, which is useful. I've never felt the need to overshare in RL either and only do that with very close friends. Everyone is different. I just don't see the point of it.

Taluulaah · 23/08/2024 18:18

Iwantamarshmallowman · 23/08/2024 18:11

if deleting the content felt right for you, go for it but don't be forced to do anything you don't want to by some faceless troll on a forum that is 99% fake. I don't have tiktok but I thought what was repeated on here was funny. my kid is autistic and life is hard. humour is a coping mechanism.

Agree with you, tho I think it changes things when these things are posted to social media, particularly when vulnerable/unable to consent/kids are involved. I didn’t see the posts so I don’t even know if that was the case, but it sounds like OP has done right thing by her kids tbf. Otherwise, yeah, I would agree that she can post whatever she wants. I probably found her “joke” funnier than I should’ve 🫣

Daltonbear1 · 23/08/2024 18:16

sunseaandsoundingoff · 23/08/2024 17:17

Basically the rules here are that you can't say anything that may be offensive or not compassionate to anyone with ADHD, autism, and so on.

And if your post is complaining about someone, people will say that person probably has ADHD or autism even when they obviously don't.

But you can be as nasty as you like about trans people, because apparently according to mumsnet they aren't people, they're just rapists who are going to shag your kids or granny if they see them in a public toilet.

Preachhhhhhhhhhh

Iwantamarshmallowman · 23/08/2024 18:11

if deleting the content felt right for you, go for it but don't be forced to do anything you don't want to by some faceless troll on a forum that is 99% fake. I don't have tiktok but I thought what was repeated on here was funny. my kid is autistic and life is hard. humour is a coping mechanism.

verityrosa · 23/08/2024 18:10

SensibleSigma · 23/08/2024 17:58

Try this as a very clear example of how women’s rights can be undermined by transwomen (for clarity, people born male who prefer to appear female).

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/krhu7xJWHU3SjBN2/?mibextid=KsPBc6

Thanks just watched this. That’s really quite shocking!

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BreadInCaptivity · 23/08/2024 18:10

verityrosa · 23/08/2024 16:47

But so many people have messaged me asking me if I’m ok because I haven’t posted tik toks. I probably did about 3 a day. Question to you all tho - do you share stuff on a private Facebook page or insta? Or never post at all?

I don't post anything about my children on SM at all without their permission.

When I do it's for things like birthday's or a family celebration. Positive posts only.

Good for you though in taking feedback on the chin and making a change.

As for fitting in on MN, I find the diversity of backgrounds/circumstances and views is what make the site valuable.

wrongthinker · 23/08/2024 18:09

verityrosa · 23/08/2024 18:00

if you laughed then I’m here to tell you you’re grim 😭😭

Oh don't worry, I know it!

verityrosa · 23/08/2024 18:06

TheClawDecides · 23/08/2024 18:01

If people find 'jokes' about shaking babies 'grim', they're allowed to shout it from the roof tops if they choose.

Plus, the OP could be anyone anyway.

I could be but I did prove this on the last post by posting on my tik tok that I was defending myself on mumsnet, which a few people would be able to back up. But anyway it was people like you that told me how wrong it was that got me to remove the account and I don’t mine being told straight!

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Iwantamarshmallowman · 23/08/2024 18:03

I personally thought the person who posted that thred was a judgemental twat-waffle and should have minded their own beeswax, but there you go.

TheClawDecides · 23/08/2024 18:01

Taluulaah · 23/08/2024 17:59

Maybe not, but considering she’s trying to apologise for that behaviour, when you bring it up repeatedly it might come off like you’re being a dick about it. Think pp was maybe just saying that you made your point, n to give it a rest now and ease off on the (repeated) criticism so OP feels like she’s welcome here.

If people find 'jokes' about shaking babies 'grim', they're allowed to shout it from the roof tops if they choose.

Plus, the OP could be anyone anyway.

verityrosa · 23/08/2024 18:00

wrongthinker · 23/08/2024 17:54

Okay, I laughed! I agree it's a bad idea to post your kids online but you are funny so maybe find a way to express your dark humour that doesn't involve your kids. Maybe writing, or making videos on other topics?

if you laughed then I’m here to tell you you’re grim 😭😭

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Taluulaah · 23/08/2024 17:59

CeruleanDive · 23/08/2024 17:42

Don’t scare her off? You think someone posting that kind of shit to millions on TikTok is going to be bothered by me telling her I find it grim?

Maybe not, but considering she’s trying to apologise for that behaviour, when you bring it up repeatedly it might come off like you’re being a dick about it. Think pp was maybe just saying that you made your point, n to give it a rest now and ease off on the (repeated) criticism so OP feels like she’s welcome here.

SensibleSigma · 23/08/2024 17:58

verityrosa · 23/08/2024 17:21

I’m gonna have to Google this 😭 I don’t know what the issue is with trans women’s rights. I feel so thick here 😂

Try this as a very clear example of how women’s rights can be undermined by transwomen (for clarity, people born male who prefer to appear female).

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/krhu7xJWHU3SjBN2/?mibextid=KsPBc6

Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/krhu7xJWHU3SjBN2?mibextid=KsPBc6

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