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discocherry · 23/08/2024 14:46

Like I just don’t understand how we’ve got to the point where it can be ruled discriminatory for women to not want biological men in their spaces. It makes me so cross.

ChateauMargaux · 23/08/2024 14:45

FFS.. ..

Austensource · 23/08/2024 14:44

Imustgoforarun · 23/08/2024 14:12

If I was a lesbian I would now not trust that dating app so they would lose my custom. Such a good idea but as usual we must bow to men’s feelings.

This is exactly what is happening in lesbian spaces in real life and online, they pretty much don’t exist anymore without men intruding and the more you say this is a female only the space the more they want to access it, that’s how this thing works.

Kirstyshine · 23/08/2024 14:33

Imustgoforarun · 23/08/2024 14:12

If I was a lesbian I would now not trust that dating app so they would lose my custom. Such a good idea but as usual we must bow to men’s feelings.

It isn’t a dating app, or at least, not primarily. Sally Grover set it up after experiencing sexism at work, as a women’s network for support.

RentySpenty · 23/08/2024 14:32

Roxxie Tickle. Really? 🤨

bringbacktheladiesloos · 23/08/2024 14:29

So glad I don't live in Australia

Livinginaclock · 23/08/2024 14:25

Roxy Tickle makes me feel sick and Australia are goinggl backwards

ButtSurgery · 23/08/2024 14:17

I hope they appeal this - the whole of the decision suggests to me the judge doesn't understand the difference between sex and gender identity.

Witchbitch20 · 23/08/2024 14:17

Disgraceful

Pocketfullofdogtreats · 23/08/2024 14:16

The app's founder has some (lady!) balls. She's not afraid of stating the facts.

discocherry · 23/08/2024 14:14

I very much feel like the majority of trans women are just wanting to live their lives in peace and should be able to do this. I don’t care what people wear or how they present themselves.

My issues with this are:
a) Why would you even want to join a space for women that is clearly specifically for discussion of issues that solely impact biological women? I would not dream of trying to enter a space made for trans women because I don’t have the same experience and problems.
b) Wearing “female clothes” and “growing your hair” doesn’t make someone a woman.

Honestly I don’t like at all how divided and hostile this issue is but I just feel like no one has ever given a satisfactory reason why we should accept that someone wanting to wear “female clothes” etc makes them a woman - how is “I want to wear makeup” not a totally sexist and reductive view of womanhood?

EasternStandard · 23/08/2024 14:14

consistently found sex is “changeable and not necessarily binary”

I mean we really are in trouble with this, from a judge

SilenceInside · 23/08/2024 14:13

Only an entitled male would take an organisation for women-only to court to force them to accept his membership.

The confused state of the law in Australia is shocking, as is the fact that a judge could sit there and actually say that sex is changeable and not necessarily binary! No mammal on the planet has or ever will change sex, and of course sex is binary - what are the other sex(es) and what is their role in mammalian (and therefore human) reproduction?

Imustgoforarun · 23/08/2024 14:12

If I was a lesbian I would now not trust that dating app so they would lose my custom. Such a good idea but as usual we must bow to men’s feelings.

AgnesX · 23/08/2024 14:12

EasternStandard · 23/08/2024 14:10

The judge's comments

But Justice Robert Bromwich said in his decision on Friday that case law has consistently found sex is “changeable and not necessarily binary”, ultimately dismissing Giggle’s argument.

Tickle said the ruling "shows that all women are protected from discrimination" and that she hoped the case would be "healing for trans and gender diverse people".

Concerning for precedent

So you can argue black is white ....🙄

DonnaBanana · 23/08/2024 14:11

I thought gender was changeable or at least more fluid and that sex was just whatever you biologically were. Has it changed back around again?

EasternStandard · 23/08/2024 14:10

The judge's comments

But Justice Robert Bromwich said in his decision on Friday that case law has consistently found sex is “changeable and not necessarily binary”, ultimately dismissing Giggle’s argument.

Tickle said the ruling "shows that all women are protected from discrimination" and that she hoped the case would be "healing for trans and gender diverse people".

Concerning for precedent

Pocketfullofdogtreats · 23/08/2024 14:10

Yep. They just had this on Radio 4. The forum have to pay him compensation! Some people are so bloody entitled. But I think the tide will turn.

Candaceowens · 23/08/2024 14:09

What a disgrace.