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Friend is obsessed with having ADHD

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Ooooook · 23/08/2024 09:30

Over the last year, my friend has become obsessed with the thought of having ADHD. She watches lots of instagram reels and tells me she identifies with them all. I have listened to her and agreed she gets herself on the waiting list for assessment which she has done but she says she’s going to go to private. Fair enough. My issue is, she doesn’t talk about anything else anymore ever. If the conversation isn’t about ADHD, she’ll steer it back. She’ll send me reel after reel saying this is so me constantly. It’s things like she forgets where she’s put her keys or she’s sometimes late or she walks into people. I said oh same for a few of the reels because I also quite often forget where my keys are and she jumped on that and was like omg you also need to be assessed. She’s going around diagnosing everybody if they identify with even one of the things she’s seen like being late. I haven’t even known her to be particularly late, easily distracted or hyper focussing but she must feel like these are issues. She is obsessed. AIBU to not want to meet with her as much? I do sympathise that she wants support for maybe having ADHD but I can’t talk about it all the time and be told I’ve got it too, and my kids and our other friends too and be shown constant reels every time we meet. I feel like a bad friend but she’s driving me mad

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Begsthequestion · 23/08/2024 14:59

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 23/08/2024 14:57

‘No, I don't like ignorant and ableist opinions, you're right.

You said ADHD "may or may not exist" despite it being a recognised psychiatric disorder.’

Doctors used to diagnose ‘hysteria’ in women, not as a one off reaction but an entrenched condition. it was a ‘recognised psychiatric disorder’, used to explain ‘awkward or untoward female behaviour ‘ . Do you think anyone who maybe didn’t accept that as a valid condition was ignorant and ableist? Or perhaps they just had an open and inquisitive mind, which helped to overthrow a particular ‘ psychiatric ‘ shibboleth.

Apples and oranges.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 23/08/2024 14:57

‘No, I don't like ignorant and ableist opinions, you're right.

You said ADHD "may or may not exist" despite it being a recognised psychiatric disorder.’

Doctors used to diagnose ‘hysteria’ in women, not as a one off reaction but an entrenched condition. it was a ‘recognised psychiatric disorder’, used to explain ‘awkward or untoward female behaviour ‘ . Do you think anyone who maybe didn’t accept that as a valid condition was ignorant and ableist? Or perhaps they just had an open and inquisitive mind, which helped to overthrow a particular ‘ psychiatric ‘ shibboleth.

Begsthequestion · 23/08/2024 14:55

Perhaps she'd be better off making new more understanding friends.

5128gap · 23/08/2024 14:52

Funnywonder · 23/08/2024 09:48

It's neurodivergent, not neurodiverse. That makes no sense. Why does this one person believing strongly that she has ADHD mean that 'everyone' is neurodivergent?

I took it as a reference to the increased awareness and diagnosis of the condition leading to more and more people identifying with the traits. I take this poster to be questioning how many people would actually be judged 'NT' if they explored it and paid for diagnosis, and that there's a tipping point where if ND people start to equal or outnumber NT people, we will need to reframe our definitions and rethink what 'typical' is. It an interesting point imo.

MumblesParty · 23/08/2024 14:49

Funnywonder · 23/08/2024 11:55

People are seen in the order in which they were referred.

No they certainly are not! If there is significant evidence of need, they will be given an urgent referral. Everyone who is classed as 'routine' will then be seen in order of referral, unless their status changes and, with supporting evidence, they are reclassified as urgent.

The referral pathway I use at work doesn’t have an option to refer urgently. Unless, obviously, someone was becoming depressed due to their ADHD, in which case they would be seen sooner for their depression. But they’d still wait for the ADHD assessment.

Funnywonder · 23/08/2024 14:49

I’ve never met a normal person in my life! we are all neurodivergent.

Oh dear. This comment just highlights your absolute ignorance of what ADHD and other ND conditions are and the calamitous effects they can have. I would also be a bit careful about bandying around the 'normal' word.

Foxxo · 23/08/2024 14:43

ADHD is diagnosed when the behaviours that everyone has some aspects of impact their day to day in a way that is dysfunctional and disabling.

Guavafish1 · 23/08/2024 14:42

I’ve never met a normal person in my life! we are all neurodivergent.

i would keep away from your friend until she calms down.

Colonicq · 23/08/2024 14:39

Didimum · 23/08/2024 13:47

"Hi friend, I'd never want to hurt your feelings or make you feel uncomfortable, but I'm finding how often we discuss ADHD excessive for me personally, and I'd like to take a break from it. I'm here to support you and listen to your feelings if and when a diagnoses if reached. I love talking to you about so many things and would like to bring that back."

Sounds like she's feeling displaced in life and looking to explain the part of herself she feels uncomfortable with – whether she should or not. She's probably so desensitised to thinking about it that she doesn't realise how excessively it's coming up. If she's a good friend, she will listen to YOUR feelings too and accommodate them.

This is great advice.

Foxxo · 23/08/2024 14:38

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What an absolutely disgusting post, absolutely atrocious.

Yes, there are far more debilitating conditions, and plenty of us who have both ADHD and other more debilitating conditions. I have degenerative disk disease, sciatica, severe chronic pain, hypermobility, arthritis, asthma, migraine and Autism. I use crutches or a wheelchair to get around. Take a butt load of medications just to function through the day.

you know which one causes me the most difficulty day to day? The ADHD.. because it pervades through EVERY part of my day, more than my pain does. It affects my sleep routine (delayed sleep phase syndrome and insomnia) it affects my short term memory (forgetting to take my medications) it affects my moods, it stops me from eating, from going to the bathroom.

You have NO fucking idea what you're talking about. Kindly don't, just fucking don't.

Ooooook · 23/08/2024 14:38

CharlotteRumpling · 23/08/2024 14:37

I have a friend who doesn't have ADHD and constantly sends me Tiktok reels, memes, Insta videos that interest her, and anything that catches her fancy. I said gently that I am involved in a big project at work and am trying to reduce my social media consumption, so I won't be clicking on Tiktok or Insta. It happens to be true as well.

Would that work?

That’s a good idea. Thank you

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CharlotteRumpling · 23/08/2024 14:37

I have a friend who doesn't have ADHD and constantly sends me Tiktok reels, memes, Insta videos that interest her, and anything that catches her fancy. I said gently that I am involved in a big project at work and am trying to reduce my social media consumption, so I won't be clicking on Tiktok or Insta. It happens to be true as well.

Would that work?

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 23/08/2024 14:36

@housethatbuiltme

great post, thanks.

Ooooook · 23/08/2024 14:32

SkytreeMadeOfClay · 23/08/2024 14:18

Funnily enough, she's exhibiting a huge ADHD trait in doing this. Imagine feeling different all your life, imagine knowing something is there but you don't have the knowledge or words to articulate exactly what it is. And yet it affects every single thing.
It's a HUGE set of feelings when you can contextualise literally every interaction, choice, feeling and life experience you've ever had. And.diagnosis takes so long that she will be fizzing over, learning about it all

If you don't want to support her through it, don't. Let her find a good friend who can help her settle her feelings to a more stable level as she learns more and accepts it, and relaxes a little about it all
It is an all-encompassing realisation though, and I do think she's handling it in a usual ADHD manner!.

However, if it's boring to you, that's a legitimate reason to not bother with her much if you're not that close. Other people's health and constant talking about it can be selfish and boring as fuck, I do agree to an extent.

I mean I’m not sure how much more supportive I can be. I respond to the constant video reels and memes. I listen to her talk about it in every conversation we have. I just do think my own feelings also need to be considered and I feel like I’m going a bit mad with it all especially when she tries to diagnose me too and my child. However, I haven’t told her this. I do need to speak to her and explain that I can’t keep only talking about adhd but don’t want her to be offended or consider me an unsupportive friend

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Foxxo · 23/08/2024 14:26

H0PE1 · 23/08/2024 10:53

My friend also diagnoses my children and her own and has put her child on medication

What medication?

You can't access ADHD meds without a prescription, if she's getting them, the kids have a valid diagnosis, or she's buying them illegally, in which case you should report her to the police and social services for child abuse.

SkytreeMadeOfClay · 23/08/2024 14:22

Also , I don't know why people want to gatekeep autism or ADHD or anything similar... It's a spectrum, we are all different, and unless you're a doctor, you cannot know the effects it has on people's lives. You cannot judge them.

I only manage my life due to years of extreme strategy forming. By manage, I mean live a really quite alternative lifestyle just because it works and I'd burn out and die if not.

But sure, because I don't tell anyone my intimate medical history, then surely tik tok videos diagnosed me, because I can mask a lot of things quite well ... No 🙄

SkytreeMadeOfClay · 23/08/2024 14:18

Funnily enough, she's exhibiting a huge ADHD trait in doing this. Imagine feeling different all your life, imagine knowing something is there but you don't have the knowledge or words to articulate exactly what it is. And yet it affects every single thing.
It's a HUGE set of feelings when you can contextualise literally every interaction, choice, feeling and life experience you've ever had. And.diagnosis takes so long that she will be fizzing over, learning about it all

If you don't want to support her through it, don't. Let her find a good friend who can help her settle her feelings to a more stable level as she learns more and accepts it, and relaxes a little about it all
It is an all-encompassing realisation though, and I do think she's handling it in a usual ADHD manner!.

However, if it's boring to you, that's a legitimate reason to not bother with her much if you're not that close. Other people's health and constant talking about it can be selfish and boring as fuck, I do agree to an extent.

Shiningout · 23/08/2024 14:10

OK she might have it. But it really pisses me off as someone diagnosed as a teen and suffering really badly because of it my whole life that people watch tiktok and now all of a sudden if you are a bit clumsy or forgetful or badly organised you deffo have adhd.

Anitapu · 23/08/2024 13:57

MonsteraMama · 23/08/2024 13:35

No no we get you. You're one of those people who thinks yoga can cure depression.

Have you considered that you're actually just sad, not depressed?

yoga cures depression?

erm no....
the gym is beneficial to anyone with signs of depression or adhd

you probably wouldnt know though...

GenAvocadoOnToast · 23/08/2024 13:57

MonsteraMama · 23/08/2024 13:35

No no we get you. You're one of those people who thinks yoga can cure depression.

Have you considered that you're actually just sad, not depressed?

This!

Depression, as in major depressive disorder, is not a state in which you can just 'crack on', eat healthily and go to the gym.

The irony is that 'depression' evolved in a similar way to how ADHD has evolved. You barely heard about people being diagnosed with it 30 years ago, now you hear about it constantly. People self-diagnose all the time, just like Anitapua has. Feeling a bit low? You must have depression!

But for some reason, people who suspect they have, or have a diagnosis of, depression aren't subjected to the same stigma, scepticism, scrutiny and vitriol.

Ooooook · 23/08/2024 13:49

LavenderHaze19 · 23/08/2024 13:34

I don’t think you’re unreasonable to be annoyed by it. It sounds annoying. People with ADHD can be very annoying. that’s why they often struggle to keep friends and relationships.

I do think you’re unreasonable to assume that you know her behaviours better than she does. I was a reasonably good student at school in terms of academic outcomes but that’s mostly because I was good at cramming under pressure before exams. I most definitely have ADHD and it has impacted my life very significantly and seriously. I often feel grief about how differently my life might have turned out if I’d been diagnosed as a child. But I don’t think my friends would necessarily notice all my ADHD behaviours.

I would say to tell her you’re finding it irritating and boring. It’s fine to feel that way and people with adhd don’t necessarily realise they’re being boring and self-absorbed.

But also try to find a bit of compassion if you can. Finding out you have ADHD as an adult, can be a huge lightbulb moment, especially for women. In the 80s and 90s, ADHD was associated with ‘naughty’, hyperactive boys, but completely overlooked in girls. So girls in particular would be branded lazy, stupid, disorganised, messy, unfocused, useless, daydreamers their whole lives, by teachers, parents and colleagues. It impacts your self-esteem and your development. You don’t understand why you struggle so much with things that seem absolutely basic to everyone else - and things that are strongly expected of women (ie being tidy and organised). You think it’s because you’re bad or stupid. And then it turns out that it isn’t, and you aren’t alone, and there are coping strategies out there. So it is a big deal.

I haven’t said I know her behaviour better than she does. In school she wasn’t always getting told off in class like she says. She also doesn’t bump into me when she walks like she says. Those are the only 2 things I have disputed - not whether she has adhd or not. She also has many adhd traits and I just think isn’t realising that you don’t need to have every one to have the condition.

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Didimum · 23/08/2024 13:47

"Hi friend, I'd never want to hurt your feelings or make you feel uncomfortable, but I'm finding how often we discuss ADHD excessive for me personally, and I'd like to take a break from it. I'm here to support you and listen to your feelings if and when a diagnoses if reached. I love talking to you about so many things and would like to bring that back."

Sounds like she's feeling displaced in life and looking to explain the part of herself she feels uncomfortable with – whether she should or not. She's probably so desensitised to thinking about it that she doesn't realise how excessively it's coming up. If she's a good friend, she will listen to YOUR feelings too and accommodate them.

Cornettoninja · 23/08/2024 13:39

iggleoggle · 23/08/2024 09:36

If everyone is neurodiverse, it’s not diverse anymore…

…. And that would mean that we’ve set up society and education to exclude the majority making it something worth considering restructuring.

MonsteraMama · 23/08/2024 13:35

Anitapu · 23/08/2024 13:31

Im labeling myself for the discussion

inreality i get on with things. I dont think anyones getting my drift. 😅

No no we get you. You're one of those people who thinks yoga can cure depression.

Have you considered that you're actually just sad, not depressed?

Cornettoninja · 23/08/2024 13:34

@Anitapu on the contrary, I think you’ve put your opinions across very concisely, certainly your first post was passionately explaining your stance.

I just think there is a lot of disagreement with you over opinions that you’ve put a lot of weight on. If the gym and ‘getting on with it’ are working for you then great, but your reaction to others reactions doesn’t really match up with that.

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