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To think I might have been burgled?

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Kittensat36 · 23/08/2024 05:23

Having a bizarre and upsetting 48 hours. Just need to vent really.

Got up yesterday morning and was preparing to leave for work when I realised that my handbag was not in the hall. It normally sits on an ottoman I have, which is about 10 feet in. I know it was there because I remember taking my phone out of it the other night to send a text

Had to have an emergency day off , expecting to find it any minute - my flat is very untidy, but I expected to find it at some point. I even checked the washing machine in case I had taken it into the bathroom and scooped it up with the washing I was about to do.

But how on earth did it happen if I was burgled? The front door was shut, the back door was locked and the only open window opens onto a secure garden (and you would have cross my bed to get in).

I have to say that my bag is not the only thing that has disappeared over the last couple of weeks. My pill container for my meds disappeared from my living room, I thought that the cats might have bapped it somewhere, but they aren't talking. A batch of paperwork is also on the missing list- a receipt for a large purchase I made recently and a prescription for flea meds. All highly useful (not), but a bit odd as laptops were in the same room and were left untouched.

A ring doorbell/cameras would have been useful and I will have to get some. But I have nothing now. I suppose that if they put something through the letter box, they might have been able to get the door open, but isn't that a bit risky in the middle of the night? Wouldn't it have been easier to get in while I am at work?

Thank goodness for my marvellous upstairs neighbour lending me some cash, or I would be really stuck.

Got to go to work to sort out getting a new workphone and getting my locker broken into to retrieve my work kit. Then sorting a new barrel for my front door lock...

Thanks for reading my rant.

OP posts:
Womblealongwithme · 23/08/2024 09:24

Dery · 23/08/2024 07:57

“She's hiding it because she's aware some people break into homes during the night.

I expect you have funny ways too”

My understanding is that the advice is to leave your handbag in the hall overnight so that, if someone breaks in, they can grab that and go rather than being motivated to come further into the house looking for something to steal. That’s why I leave my handbag in the hall. (I have my phones with me overnight though).

I was also told this by a police officer friend. I mentioned that we should probably stop leaving out car keys on the shelf in the hall. He said leave them where they are it's far better for someone to nick your car than come upstairs where your family is sleeping to look for keys/valuables. For most people, their car is probably the most valuable thing they own. There's nothing in my bag apart from random shite.

Shouldbedoing · 23/08/2024 09:24

A trusted neighbour could have a light fingered teen or new partner

Doggymummar · 23/08/2024 09:23

I can't imagine being so untidy I didn't know if I were burgled, but assuming you are this must be very scary considering you were in the house. I wouldn't be leaving until locks were changed and police had finished forensics. Presumably your house keys were in the bag so they can come back another time and try for more stuff

SecondFavouriteDinosaur · 23/08/2024 09:19

Infrequentlyhere · 23/08/2024 08:29

It’s just good sense. It takes seconds to shove it under some jumpers. Modern thieves want small, easy to carry high value items like purses, car keys and portable electronic items like phones and laptops. If you leave these lying around. They’ll take them.
I hide the car keys and my purse is upstairs with me.

And if you don’t leave them lying around, they’ll go searching round your house to find them. Potentially in your bedroom, or your child’s bedroom. I know which I’d prefer.

Kbroughton · 23/08/2024 09:18

I would say unlikely based on what you have said. Depending on where you live, it is possible for someone to opportunitistically walk in and take something in the hall. However you have said several items have gone over the past few weeks. The chance of someone breaking in over and over taking small items is very low. It's more likely you have misplaced them. Sometimes we can conjour memories up in our heads. We have just moved and my DH lost his military ID. He ransacked the house as he had a memory of being at the kitchen table with his ID. We got a redirected letter from the old house a week ago saying the ID had been left in a hire car, hired before the move. The ID was never in this house but DH was convinced. There is a small possibility someone you know is taking them, but I would say far more likely you have misplaced them.

SecondFavouriteDinosaur · 23/08/2024 09:17

x post @Blondiebeachbabe

SecondFavouriteDinosaur · 23/08/2024 09:16

Weirdaf1 · 23/08/2024 07:22

I'm sure I've seen advice to keep bag/keys somewhere other than the bedroom in the hope a thief would take them and leave rather than enter a room where you are sleeping.

Exactly this. If someone is going to break into my house I’d far rather they have easy access to my handbag so that they can take it and leave, rather than come further into the house/upstairs to find something worth taking 🤷🏻‍♀️

Blondiebeachbabe · 23/08/2024 09:15

Betyouthinkthissongisaboutyou · 23/08/2024 06:27

Always take your handbag to bedroom. I put mine in my wardrobe and hide it under some stuff!

This is terrible advice. My DH is a Police Officer. Police advice is to leave stuff where it could be quickly found if an intruder came in.

Imagine the intruder wants to find your purse.

Option 1 - bag containing your purse is in the hall. Intruder takes it and leaves.

Option 2 - bag containing your purse is in the bedroom. Intruder comes further into your home to find your bag, and he ends up in the bedroom looking for it. You wake up and scream. He has to make you shut up. Who knows how that story ends, chances are you get hurt, or worse.

Option 1 is safer. Yes, you lose your bag, but it's only "stuff". Cards can be cancelled and replaced.

Anyway Op, highly recommend camera doorbells. We have a Eufy one. It films every movement that happens, even if the doorbell isn't pressed. Any movement in the area, it starts to record. I'd get that up today!

Scentsless · 23/08/2024 09:12

Do any of your neighbours have ring doorbells or CCTV that might capture your house? Do you have find my phone on your work phone?

TrainedByDinosaurs · 23/08/2024 09:12

If your front door lock is just a Yale type lock they take seconds to open with lock picks and there’d be no sign it had been unlocked. If its a wooden door get a locksmith to fit a five lever mortise lock.

Iceache · 23/08/2024 09:12

Keys should be left where someone can find them. You don’t want thieves looking round your house!! We actually keep ours in Faraday bags now though as there were a few car robberies in our old street where they copied the keys remotely.

As an aside, what is kept in a handbag?! I have my phone with me & Apple Pay, keys next to front door and my cards (which I never use) by the front door too. I have nothing to carry in a bag!

Dery · 23/08/2024 09:03

@BiscuityBoyle and @crackfoxy - glad it wasn’t just me who thought that was the advice.

Completely agree - it sounds counterintuitive but if a burglar is in your house overnight, you don’t want them hunting around for stuff, especially if - like many of us - you have DCs asleep in the house. If they’ve got in, it’s much better for them to be able to grab a handbag and car keys and go than have to spend time prowling round the house looking for things to steal. If they’ve got into your house, you want them out again as quickly as possible. Hiding things in your bedroom potentially puts you in more danger.

echt · 23/08/2024 09:00

Izzymoon · 23/08/2024 06:45

I don’t call everyone else over anxious, I call people hide their belongings in their home every night before they go to bed over anxious.

But the OP doesn't do that, she hides her handbag, not her belongings, which would be, er..everything.

anon2022anon · 23/08/2024 08:57

I once had a purse go missing off a kitchen table. Nothing else, just a purse, so obviously didn't realise it was missing until I needed it, and then spent the next few days searching the house aimlessly. Never turned up. That house was the last house on a cul de sac, with no cut through, so the only people who could have seen it were those coming down to purposefully look into windows/ try doors, I was daft enough to presume it was safe. Always locked the front door behinde, but less often the back door, as I just thought it was out of the way enough not to be concerned.

BiscuityBoyle · 23/08/2024 08:54

BirthdayRainbow · 23/08/2024 08:46

What is the relevance of the carbon monoxide alarm? Are you thinking she's in a drugged like state and doesn't know people are entering her flat, or she's doing things out of character as effected?

Ages ago there was a thread on Reddit where, to cut a long story short, a guy posted that someone was coming into his flat at night and leaving written notes. Someone suggested getting a carbon monoxide detector which he did and it showed dangerously high levels. It turned out that at night, in an unventilated room, the guy was experiencing carbon monoxide poisoning which was causing him to write the notes.

BashfulClam · 23/08/2024 08:54

nonevernotever · 23/08/2024 06:29

You say the front door was shut and the back door locked? Was the front door locked, or just shut? Dipping is really common, where thieves go along a street usually at night, trying every door handle and grabbing whatever they can find quickly while the household is asleep. Typically it's things like car keys, bags phones etc that go but it can be really odd things too (5 old coats and an umbrella?)

Yep this happened to my mother,her car got stolen as a wee rat walked in off the street and swiped her keys.

Franjipanl8r · 23/08/2024 08:51

Is the front door dead locked or just on a catch? The catches are really easy to break into.

Webbymeister · 23/08/2024 08:51

Sorry but lol at the cats ain’t talking

PrettyPickle · 23/08/2024 08:50

In the late 90's I was renting a house. I lived on my own and worked. I kept coming home to a warm kettle. One morning as I walked down the hill to the bus, the elderly neighbours cat followed me part way down the hill. When I arrived home that night, the neighbours cat was sat on my living room settee. No windows open, nothing left unlocked, no obvious means of access but that cat was definitely NOT in my house when I left for work as it walked down the hill with me. I rang the estate agent and told them what was going on and they assured me that only they and the Landlord had a key and it wasn't them. I think they thought I had lost the plot.

I made 12 coconut macaroons for my mum and left them on the cooling rack with a tea towel over them. When I came home there were only 10.

I had a long narrow lawned back garden and needed an extension cable to mow it, which I kept under the stairs and the mower in the garage. I came home from work and the extension cable was on the worktop by my kitchen window, where I would put it had I been feeding the cord through the window to mow the lawn. Wet grass was on my mower blades. But I had not done this.

However my elderly dementia ridden neighbour had a newly mowed lawn and believe it or not, he had lived in his house since the 1920's and had never had his electric sockets updated so had no means to connect to modern stuff. In the past he had asked to borrow my mower (and electric supply) so he could sort his garden and on the whole when I mowed my lawn I now did his. He was in his late 90's and his house was like a museum piece and he had no-one.

I went around to talk to him, and he didn't seem to recognise me as his neighbour and in the conversation, I mentioned he had managed to mow his lawn and he said he found reeling the cable out and getting the cable across the fence difficult but had managed it. He had no idea that he was just confessing that he had been in my house and used my stuff without my permission. After some gentle teasing out, it transpired that in the distant past, a tenant had given him a copy key to feed his cat and watch the house when my predecessor was away. He still had that key and was letting himself into my house to check on things. He was very confused and whilst it freaked me a bit, I was grateful if was nothing worse. I retrieved my key and had a word with social services as he needed help.

My experience had a decent outcome, but the point is past tenants/owners may have the key....so changing the locks is the right way to go. Also check for lofts, some houses, especially those with flat conversions, have shared cavity walls which may afford neighbours access to your accommodation without your knowledge.

Kelly51 · 23/08/2024 08:49

Go home and gut the place tonight and no doubt all the lost items will appear.

MSLRT · 23/08/2024 08:47

Very strange. Have you blocked bank cards?

BirthdayRainbow · 23/08/2024 08:46

What is the relevance of the carbon monoxide alarm? Are you thinking she's in a drugged like state and doesn't know people are entering her flat, or she's doing things out of character as effected?

Kittensat36 · 23/08/2024 08:43

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A rubbish troll? Yeah, that's what's in my flat hiding all my stuff.

OP posts:
iNoticed · 23/08/2024 08:39

Weirdaf1 · 23/08/2024 07:22

I'm sure I've seen advice to keep bag/keys somewhere other than the bedroom in the hope a thief would take them and leave rather than enter a room where you are sleeping.

This is the advice from our local police force after a neighbour woke up with someone holding a boiled kettle over their head threatening to pour it over them if they didn’t give them the car keys.

Our car keys and handbags now stay at the bottom of the stairs at night time, so they’re easily found before we are!

crackfoxy · 23/08/2024 08:38

Weirdaf1 · 23/08/2024 07:22

I'm sure I've seen advice to keep bag/keys somewhere other than the bedroom in the hope a thief would take them and leave rather than enter a room where you are sleeping.

Yup. Burgled 3 times here. Left handbag hanging on banister downstairs and keys in bowl by front door in end. Didn't want them coming up stairs where my kids were looking for cash/keys etc

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