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To think I might have been burgled?

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Kittensat36 · 23/08/2024 05:23

Having a bizarre and upsetting 48 hours. Just need to vent really.

Got up yesterday morning and was preparing to leave for work when I realised that my handbag was not in the hall. It normally sits on an ottoman I have, which is about 10 feet in. I know it was there because I remember taking my phone out of it the other night to send a text

Had to have an emergency day off , expecting to find it any minute - my flat is very untidy, but I expected to find it at some point. I even checked the washing machine in case I had taken it into the bathroom and scooped it up with the washing I was about to do.

But how on earth did it happen if I was burgled? The front door was shut, the back door was locked and the only open window opens onto a secure garden (and you would have cross my bed to get in).

I have to say that my bag is not the only thing that has disappeared over the last couple of weeks. My pill container for my meds disappeared from my living room, I thought that the cats might have bapped it somewhere, but they aren't talking. A batch of paperwork is also on the missing list- a receipt for a large purchase I made recently and a prescription for flea meds. All highly useful (not), but a bit odd as laptops were in the same room and were left untouched.

A ring doorbell/cameras would have been useful and I will have to get some. But I have nothing now. I suppose that if they put something through the letter box, they might have been able to get the door open, but isn't that a bit risky in the middle of the night? Wouldn't it have been easier to get in while I am at work?

Thank goodness for my marvellous upstairs neighbour lending me some cash, or I would be really stuck.

Got to go to work to sort out getting a new workphone and getting my locker broken into to retrieve my work kit. Then sorting a new barrel for my front door lock...

Thanks for reading my rant.

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Desmodici · 28/08/2024 18:43

Sleepwalking!
I thought someone had been in my house, years ago. Drawers had been pulled right out and placed on the floor. Didn't make any sense that someone would've done that and not taken anything. Came to the conclusion that I must've done it myself, in my sleep. Has happened several times, since (various behaviours, in different houses).
Most recently, a steak knife went missing from the draining board overnight. Annoying, as it was part of a boxed set that my parents brought back from living in the States before I was born. Worrying, because I never have found it, and where the heck did it go? I was watching the local news the next day, with everything crossed that someone in my village hadn't been stabbed to death overnight...

CalicoPusscat · 28/08/2024 17:18

Glad it's near sorted now @Kittensat36 🙂

I'd be so lost without my handbag.

Galeindfal · 28/08/2024 15:34

I'm curious if an animal, such as a raccoon, could have been involved. OP mentioned having an open window.

Fluffytoebeanz · 28/08/2024 13:53

WonderingAboutBabies · 28/08/2024 12:59

sorry if PPs have said this but CHECK YOUR CARBON MONOXIDE ALARM.

Read the bloody thread

WonderingAboutBabies · 28/08/2024 12:59

sorry if PPs have said this but CHECK YOUR CARBON MONOXIDE ALARM.

JackRabbitSlim · 28/08/2024 12:28

@Emmz1510 OP updated to say her handbag was found in the street and handed back to her by neighbours, so she was burgled.

Good shout changing the locks OP, it's what I do whenever we move to a new house. DP has never been fussed but does it anyway, but I don't like not knowing who could have a key without us knowing! We also have a full security system we can monitor remotely with motion sensors, cameras front and back, an alarm and a box as a deterrent. We've never had any trouble but it's good for peace of mind, and hopefully would deter any would-be burglars.

Emmz1510 · 28/08/2024 12:18

I think since you admit your home is very untidy and it’s extremely unlikely you’ve been robbed on each occasion those random things have gone missing (plus they would be weird things to steal) I think the most likely thing is your bag and the other stuff is somewhere in your house. Have you had a good, thorough tidy up?
I know you say you remember where your bag was because you took your phone out, but if your front door was unlocked and there are no signs of forced entry I don’t know how likely it is you were robbed. As others have said perhaps someone else has a key? Good shout to get the locks changed just in case

Goodtogossip · 27/08/2024 12:45

Do any of your neighbours have a ring doorbell or CCTV you could ask them to check for you? If your flat is untidy then maybe try getting a room in order each day. You never know what you might find.

SecondFavouriteDinosaur · 26/08/2024 15:20

bellocchild · 26/08/2024 14:25

My sons, when present, are huge rugby and judo players, and Thai kick-boxing champions, both of whom can - apparently! - kill with their bare hands (!!) so I wouldn't worry too much. But I used to write for an insurance company, and our advice was always to make it difficult for thieves to get in: plant prickly stuff round your borders, lock sheds, garages, and outside gates, check access points, don't have vegetation obscuring your windows so you can't be seen from the road, and fit locking windows and mortice locks on outside doors. It all helps.

At 8, 5 and 3 (and disabled) mine aren’t quite at the ‘killing with their bare hands’ stage yet 😊.
Oh of course I make it difficult for them to get in in the first place, that obviously goes without saying. But once they’re in, they’re welcome to my handbag.

bellocchild · 26/08/2024 14:25

My sons, when present, are huge rugby and judo players, and Thai kick-boxing champions, both of whom can - apparently! - kill with their bare hands (!!) so I wouldn't worry too much. But I used to write for an insurance company, and our advice was always to make it difficult for thieves to get in: plant prickly stuff round your borders, lock sheds, garages, and outside gates, check access points, don't have vegetation obscuring your windows so you can't be seen from the road, and fit locking windows and mortice locks on outside doors. It all helps.

SecondFavouriteDinosaur · 26/08/2024 14:08

bellocchild · 26/08/2024 10:58

Oh, I wouldn't. Why make it easy for them? If they are casual thieves they won't come up and search the occupied bedrooms, and in the unlikely event that they did, I'd hand anything they demanded over.
More importantly, and on police advice, our windows and doors are all safely locked at night - we check this religiously last thing. Valuables are in an inconspicuous safe - only close family know we have one. Car keys are always kept in Faraday pouches out of sight, never left visibly on hall table. There are plenty of precautions you can take.

Whatever works for you. This was the advice I got from the Police though and it makes sense to me so I’ll stick with it. All my stuff is insured and it’s just stuff, if they want it that badly they can have it. Them coming upstairs where my children are sleeping is a small risk, but not one I’m willing to take.

DreamW3aver · 26/08/2024 12:48

SerendipityJane · 26/08/2024 12:21

By definition criminals are thick as pigshit. Most are barely literate.

As Mr. McKay said in "Porridge" : "You know their motto. Thieve first, think later".

If only that were true then the large phone scam factories wouldn't exist and vulnerable people wouldn't lose their life savings to unscrupulous gangs. The definition of criminal definitely doesnt automatically include stupid

SerendipityJane · 26/08/2024 12:21

Lalalalalalalalalalaoohoohwee · 25/08/2024 19:01

Is this for real? Why would someone steal your cats flea prescription?!

By definition criminals are thick as pigshit. Most are barely literate.

As Mr. McKay said in "Porridge" : "You know their motto. Thieve first, think later".

User37652 · 26/08/2024 12:10

I was once burgled (in London) exactly like this. There was one small window open which they came in and out which backed into only a shared but private garden. They grabbed only my handbag and left. The scariest thing was that I was napping in the bedroom with my newborn baby, didn’t wake up or hear a thing and it was broad daylight.

CellophaneFlower · 26/08/2024 11:17

It's probably not a wonder there's so many opportunistic burglars now, with everybody being advised to leave all their valuables on a plate by the front door for them 🙈

Thelnebriati · 26/08/2024 11:08

I leave an old bag in the hall, with an old purse, some spare change, keys and a fiver in it.

bellocchild · 26/08/2024 10:58

SecondFavouriteDinosaur · 26/08/2024 08:09

Which means if a burglar enters your house, instead of finding your handbag easily and leaving, they may come upstairs into yours/your children’s sleeping quarters to find something valuable instead.
Everything I keep in my handbag is replaceable. My family’s safety is more important than my bank cards and keys. I’d rather burglars found what they wanted and left.

Oh, I wouldn't. Why make it easy for them? If they are casual thieves they won't come up and search the occupied bedrooms, and in the unlikely event that they did, I'd hand anything they demanded over.
More importantly, and on police advice, our windows and doors are all safely locked at night - we check this religiously last thing. Valuables are in an inconspicuous safe - only close family know we have one. Car keys are always kept in Faraday pouches out of sight, never left visibly on hall table. There are plenty of precautions you can take.

SecondFavouriteDinosaur · 26/08/2024 08:09

bellocchild · 26/08/2024 08:07

Nothing odd about that! We were burgled years ago - carelessly left small downstairs top window open on warm night - and the theft of my handbag was the worst: telling bank and police, cancelling cards and mobile, cutting new door keys, replacing car keys, insurance claims, the lot. Ever since, my bag sits inconspicuously down by my bed at night.

Which means if a burglar enters your house, instead of finding your handbag easily and leaving, they may come upstairs into yours/your children’s sleeping quarters to find something valuable instead.
Everything I keep in my handbag is replaceable. My family’s safety is more important than my bank cards and keys. I’d rather burglars found what they wanted and left.

bellocchild · 26/08/2024 08:07

Betyouthinkthissongisaboutyou · 23/08/2024 06:27

Always take your handbag to bedroom. I put mine in my wardrobe and hide it under some stuff!

Nothing odd about that! We were burgled years ago - carelessly left small downstairs top window open on warm night - and the theft of my handbag was the worst: telling bank and police, cancelling cards and mobile, cutting new door keys, replacing car keys, insurance claims, the lot. Ever since, my bag sits inconspicuously down by my bed at night.

Kittensat36 · 26/08/2024 06:37

PracticalLady · 25/08/2024 22:26

Did you change the locks when you moved in? Maybe a previous resident still has a key.

I didn't, @PracticalLady , more fool me. Going to be a staunch advocate of it now. And will also change the back door lock after payday.

So it's done with a 3* Platinum lock. Couldn't get one with a thumb plate.

No, I couldn't have left it outside/had it slip off my shoulder - I always wear my strap diagonally across my body, so I have to deliberately take it off, can't shrug it off. Besides which, I went back to the bag to get my phone after I had got in, fed the cats, started supper, etc, so I know it was there. If it had been my shopping bag, it would be entirely possible

Why would anyone take my cat's prescription? Well. I admit that it's odd and I only conjecture that it may be part of the silliness going on. I agree that a burglar stealing to make ends meet would probably not be interested in paperwork unless they are looking for bank statements etc for identity theft. Grab a handful of letters, etc, see what's there. After all we are told not to bung stuff with personal info in the bin for this reason.

If it's someone who has a key and is pranking me, well, just randomly taking a handful of paperwork might cause irritation...... which it most certainly did.

Well anyway, that's me done for this thread.

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PracticalLady · 25/08/2024 22:26

Did you change the locks when you moved in? Maybe a previous resident still has a key.

Lalalalalalalalalalaoohoohwee · 25/08/2024 19:01

Kittensat36 · 23/08/2024 05:23

Having a bizarre and upsetting 48 hours. Just need to vent really.

Got up yesterday morning and was preparing to leave for work when I realised that my handbag was not in the hall. It normally sits on an ottoman I have, which is about 10 feet in. I know it was there because I remember taking my phone out of it the other night to send a text

Had to have an emergency day off , expecting to find it any minute - my flat is very untidy, but I expected to find it at some point. I even checked the washing machine in case I had taken it into the bathroom and scooped it up with the washing I was about to do.

But how on earth did it happen if I was burgled? The front door was shut, the back door was locked and the only open window opens onto a secure garden (and you would have cross my bed to get in).

I have to say that my bag is not the only thing that has disappeared over the last couple of weeks. My pill container for my meds disappeared from my living room, I thought that the cats might have bapped it somewhere, but they aren't talking. A batch of paperwork is also on the missing list- a receipt for a large purchase I made recently and a prescription for flea meds. All highly useful (not), but a bit odd as laptops were in the same room and were left untouched.

A ring doorbell/cameras would have been useful and I will have to get some. But I have nothing now. I suppose that if they put something through the letter box, they might have been able to get the door open, but isn't that a bit risky in the middle of the night? Wouldn't it have been easier to get in while I am at work?

Thank goodness for my marvellous upstairs neighbour lending me some cash, or I would be really stuck.

Got to go to work to sort out getting a new workphone and getting my locker broken into to retrieve my work kit. Then sorting a new barrel for my front door lock...

Thanks for reading my rant.

Is this for real? Why would someone steal your cats flea prescription?!

Sierra26 · 25/08/2024 11:23

Is it possible you left your bag on the doorstep and closed the door with it left outside?

Or left your keys in the door outside, enabling someone to easily open it and grab the first thing (your bag) they saw?

BiscuityBoyle · 25/08/2024 10:51

SerendipityJane · 25/08/2024 10:47

(uPVC doors) The best way to defeat a burglar with a key is to leave your key on the inside in the lock and turned slightly so a key from the outside can't go all the way in. This is also a good fire safety measure.

However it does mean that if anyone gains access by another route (climbs in the window) then they can just walk out the front door. Although in most cases the key can only be left in the lock inside if you are in.

Thumbturns won't protect you from a key-holding burglar. Also make sure the lock is truly "bump proof" (see link in PP).

Glad mystery is solved. Nothing worse than a feeling you are going mad.

See I was told don’t leave the key in the door as it kind of half unlocks it and makes it easier to pick from the outside.

SerendipityJane · 25/08/2024 10:47

(uPVC doors) The best way to defeat a burglar with a key is to leave your key on the inside in the lock and turned slightly so a key from the outside can't go all the way in. This is also a good fire safety measure.

However it does mean that if anyone gains access by another route (climbs in the window) then they can just walk out the front door. Although in most cases the key can only be left in the lock inside if you are in.

Thumbturns won't protect you from a key-holding burglar. Also make sure the lock is truly "bump proof" (see link in PP).

Glad mystery is solved. Nothing worse than a feeling you are going mad.

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