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Daughter refusing to speak normally

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Maryahadaballtoday · 22/08/2024 18:23

I’m at my bloody wits end with my child and I’m very close to telling her so.

I have one child (daughter she’s eight) she is my only child as a few years ago I had my tubes tied neither me or partner wanted another daughter - perfectly fine with just one and she has plenty of cousins and friends to spend time with. I

Its worth noting before I go on that my child is not neurodivergent nor is she from a broken home. Me and her dad have been together twelve years. We have never broken up nor divorced either, partly because we’ve never been married. So there’s really no need for her to be doing what she does.

Lately she has been reverting back to baby speech - saying things like chippies or icky, the worst is bobo when she wants her water bottle and it’s grinding my gears to the maximum. It’s gotten so bad that my partner will flat out ignore her.

Earlier on today she had a full on temper tantrum and kept screaming “icky icky icky” over ice cream spilling on her fingers while we were out. When I pulled her up on to her feet and sternly told her she was on thin ice she reverted back to baby speech “I no wike you” was among my top five favourites.

AIBU to ignore her like my partner is doing? Is this a phase she’ll grow out of? I’m dreading sending her back to school the week after next because her baby talk has got so bad none of her friends have wanted to spend time all summer

I really don’t need the shaming mum parade, I’d like a hand hold and for someone to tell me their kid has also been driving them beserk too

although I know I’m likely to be flamed - Mumsnet seems to be that way

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HauntedbyMagpies · 22/08/2024 18:48

YABVVVVU to use the expression 'broken home' in 2024 for a start!
Also, as a parent to a 9yr old autistic DD who does exactly the behaviour you describe, I'm saying that your DD very much is neurodivergent and that it's nothing to be ashamed of! Unless she's been assessed by the NHS and you have it in writing from them that they've found her not to be neurodiverse, then you cannot simply declare her as "not neurodivergent" as you don't have the power to say that. Even child psychologists need a panel of fellow child psychologists and autism specialists to declare a child to be one way or the other.

KreedKafer · 22/08/2024 18:48

Have you actually sat her down and asked her if she could explain why she’s doing this? And what did she say?

I’m also interested in how you know the baby talk is the reason her friends seem to be dropping her. Have they told her that? Have their parents told you? Or is it a guess?

I think it is relatively common for kids to go through a phase like this, but maybe not as extreme as it seems to be with your daughter. I do think ignoring her unless she speaks normally is probably a good idea.

CurlewKate · 22/08/2024 18:47

Oh god-one of mine did this! Drove me mad. My mother advised me to just ignore it-and I did. And she stopped.

Seaside1234 · 22/08/2024 18:44

No possibility anything unpleasant has happened to her that you're not aware of? If you were there during child psych assessment she might not have wanted to talk about it. Assuming this, and that you're confident she's not ND, sounds like one to just ignore. Bit odd that she's driven her friends away by doing it is the only reason I ask about other things. Has she discovered that doing this gives her some power over other people's behaviour, even if negatively, so she's testing that out?

Soccergearmissingagain · 22/08/2024 18:44

Soccergearmissingagain · 22/08/2024 18:41

Agree with this.
Behaviour has a reason behind it. You need to identify the reason. Are you sure she's not ND? (How can you tell? Girls are often late to be diagnosed.) Are there any other behavioural issues?

Sorry, just saw you've already attended a child psychologist. What did s/he advise?

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 22/08/2024 18:44

I think this is a recognised phase that some children go through, sometimes because they are anxious about something in their life. I once taught a 10yo girl who did it. It's very annoying, but they do grow out of it! It might be better to ignore it.

Maryahadaballtoday · 22/08/2024 18:44

@Soccergearmissingagain

No other behavioural issues, she’s as good as gold but she just won’t stop with the baby talk and it’s driving me bananas.

It’s gotten so bad today I’ve locked myself in the spare room to cry, drink tea and watch a show. I’m the mum who always blames themself for things like this

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Nowordsformethanks · 22/08/2024 18:44

I feel sorry for your child.

Soccergearmissingagain · 22/08/2024 18:41

MangshorJhol · 22/08/2024 18:31

So normally I would say it’s a phase, ride it out. And absolutely ignore it.

BUT what stuck out me is that she is doing it with her friends to the point of annoying them and losing friendships. By 8 most kids have enough social skills to modify their behaviour with friends. That she can’t and won’t suggests that PERHAPS something else is going on. I am wondering if this behaviour is a sign of some underlying anxiety so she’s reverting to this to gain security of some sort.

Agree with this.
Behaviour has a reason behind it. You need to identify the reason. Are you sure she's not ND? (How can you tell? Girls are often late to be diagnosed.) Are there any other behavioural issues?

wtfactually · 22/08/2024 18:40

I'm sure I read before when children do this it is because they are realising they are letting babyhood go and aren't ready to not be a baby/toddler anymore or I suppose a little child and they are coming to terms with it. Apparently it's also linked to needing more attention.

Flibflobflibflob · 22/08/2024 18:40

Maryahadaballtoday · 22/08/2024 18:39

Already done that. There’s nothing going on, she had a full blown conversation and understood what she was being asked. Didn’t need me to take control of the conversation or repeat at all

Did she discuss the baby voice?

DillyDilly · 22/08/2024 18:40

By any chance is she looking for kindness and understanding from you ? You seem to talk about her quite harshly ?

theduchessofspork · 22/08/2024 18:39

Ignore it, not in a dramatic way - just ‘darling I don’t understand you, speak normally’ and then carry on till she does.

She won’t do it to her teacher

They go through weird patches and she’ll probably knock it on the head when she’s back at school. If she doesn’t then seek some advice from the school counselling service on how to manage it while it lasts. It’s not easy.

Maryahadaballtoday · 22/08/2024 18:39

livelovelough24 · 22/08/2024 18:35

I would actually take the kid to child psychologist. It is possible that there may be an underlying issue you are not aware of.

Already done that. There’s nothing going on, she had a full blown conversation and understood what she was being asked. Didn’t need me to take control of the conversation or repeat at all

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DillyDilly · 22/08/2024 18:38

I think you need to seek professional advice. To me it seems like there might be a bigger issue and your daughter is a very unhappy person for some reason.

Maryahadaballtoday · 22/08/2024 18:36

It’s stressing me out big time. She goes into year 4 in September and I know for a fact her teacher won’t take her nonsense. He taught my oldest nephre (who’s just turned fifteen)

thank you for all your messages I’m reading them but because I am on my mobile I can’t reply to you all (I’m old and don’t understand techy things)

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Flibflobflibflob · 22/08/2024 18:36

Mines been barking for two weeks, i almost snapped yesterday. It sounds really really annoying. Perhaps a serious sit down chat would help. Be clear that it’s not cute and not endearing and is actually quite annoying, does she understand this and if so why does she continue to do it. I know that sounds a bit brutal but maybe she needs to be told outright before she goes back to school and really starts annoying her friends.

Other option is just ignore anything said to you in a baby voice.

BippityBopper · 22/08/2024 18:36

She's deep into role play. I used to work at a girls' group and one of the girls spoke like that almost 90% of the time. She too was NT as far as I could tell. I think it's just a phase and you have keep reminding her to speak in her big girl voice.

I understand your frustration. It used to annoy the fuck out of me.

Brefugee · 22/08/2024 18:35

MounjaroUser · 22/08/2024 18:34

if you speak another language, only speak to her in that one. Tell her, once, in English that as long as she is talking in a language you don't speak, you will do the same to her.

This made me laugh - nothing the OP has said suggests she speaks another language.

don't be daft - plenty of people speak another language. It's what i did when my DCs tried talking strangely to me (sort of nearly but not quite gangsta)

I spoke a language they don't understand and they soon stopped.

livelovelough24 · 22/08/2024 18:35

I would actually take the kid to child psychologist. It is possible that there may be an underlying issue you are not aware of.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 22/08/2024 18:34

Oh, I forgot under the trauma of remembering the Mancunian Phase.

The other one decided to speak Cat for a week. I already had three of the buggers yelling at me throughout the day, so one more without fur didn't really make that much of a difference. She changed her mind pretty sharpish when I carefully flea combed the real cats and then went to use the same comb on her.

MounjaroUser · 22/08/2024 18:34

if you speak another language, only speak to her in that one. Tell her, once, in English that as long as she is talking in a language you don't speak, you will do the same to her.

This made me laugh - nothing the OP has said suggests she speaks another language.

Augustisnearlydonesogoodbyesun · 22/08/2024 18:33

Baby TV only. Baby food. Early nights. Def no WiFi..

Hatty65 · 22/08/2024 18:32

Well, bedtime is 6pm for icky wicky babies, isn't it?

I'd tell her sharply that she either stopped with the baby language or I'd treat her like a baby. None of the privileges that 8 year olds get.

SlashBeef · 22/08/2024 18:32

Don't engage. My 9 year old went through a period of this "me can't do it" and stuff like that. I just told her I didn't understand her when she spoke like that and wouldn't do what she asked until she spoke properly.
She snapped out of it sharpish.