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Daughter refusing to speak normally

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Maryahadaballtoday · 22/08/2024 18:23

I’m at my bloody wits end with my child and I’m very close to telling her so.

I have one child (daughter she’s eight) she is my only child as a few years ago I had my tubes tied neither me or partner wanted another daughter - perfectly fine with just one and she has plenty of cousins and friends to spend time with. I

Its worth noting before I go on that my child is not neurodivergent nor is she from a broken home. Me and her dad have been together twelve years. We have never broken up nor divorced either, partly because we’ve never been married. So there’s really no need for her to be doing what she does.

Lately she has been reverting back to baby speech - saying things like chippies or icky, the worst is bobo when she wants her water bottle and it’s grinding my gears to the maximum. It’s gotten so bad that my partner will flat out ignore her.

Earlier on today she had a full on temper tantrum and kept screaming “icky icky icky” over ice cream spilling on her fingers while we were out. When I pulled her up on to her feet and sternly told her she was on thin ice she reverted back to baby speech “I no wike you” was among my top five favourites.

AIBU to ignore her like my partner is doing? Is this a phase she’ll grow out of? I’m dreading sending her back to school the week after next because her baby talk has got so bad none of her friends have wanted to spend time all summer

I really don’t need the shaming mum parade, I’d like a hand hold and for someone to tell me their kid has also been driving them beserk too

although I know I’m likely to be flamed - Mumsnet seems to be that way

OP posts:
MangshorJhol · 22/08/2024 20:05

Why was your DD examined by three psychiatrists though? Has this baby talk been going on for a long time or was there another reason? I couldn’t find a response to that.

Calliopespa · 22/08/2024 20:04

RunAwayTurnAwayRunAwayTurnAway · 22/08/2024 20:00

I got the ick, OP, from your self-deprecating humour about your age.

Similar to what you say your daughter is doing, no?

Lots of us don’t have the tech skills younger generations have. How is she supposed to convey that?

BranstonPickleAndNikNaks · 22/08/2024 20:02

TheIranianYoghurtIsNotTheIssueHere · 22/08/2024 19:53

Errr you said in your OP that you'd been sterilised?

I noticed that too. The whole thread is weird - the brusque defensiveness, the "my child is completely typical and emotionally balanced but has seen THREE psychiatrists" (that @Maryahadaballtoday has ignored all questions about), and the irrelevant long covid detail that contradicts the OP!

Calliopespa · 22/08/2024 20:02

Maryahadaballtoday · 22/08/2024 18:50

Unless she's been assessed by the NHS and you have it in writing from them that they've found her not to be neurodiverse, then you cannot simply declare her as "not neurodivergent"

i have it in writing from three psychiatrists and most of her teachers at school have told me she isn’t autistic.

but thank you very much for claiming you know my child

How long has it being going on oP? I read it as a short term thing but the three psychiatrists made me wonder if I’d assumed that rather than read it? Surely DD must have a pretty strong understanding it’s causing problems if she seen three psychiatrists? Did they discuss it directly with her?

Bollihobs · 22/08/2024 20:01

HauntedbyMagpies · 22/08/2024 18:48

YABVVVVU to use the expression 'broken home' in 2024 for a start!
Also, as a parent to a 9yr old autistic DD who does exactly the behaviour you describe, I'm saying that your DD very much is neurodivergent and that it's nothing to be ashamed of! Unless she's been assessed by the NHS and you have it in writing from them that they've found her not to be neurodiverse, then you cannot simply declare her as "not neurodivergent" as you don't have the power to say that. Even child psychologists need a panel of fellow child psychologists and autism specialists to declare a child to be one way or the other.

Oh get over yourself, you know very well what the OP was conveying with the term "broken home" and as for the insistence that the OP "doesn't have the power" (whatever that means) to say her DD isn't ND you apparently can distance diagnose her in a moment! 🙄

RunAwayTurnAwayRunAwayTurnAway · 22/08/2024 20:00

Maryahadaballtoday · 22/08/2024 18:36

It’s stressing me out big time. She goes into year 4 in September and I know for a fact her teacher won’t take her nonsense. He taught my oldest nephre (who’s just turned fifteen)

thank you for all your messages I’m reading them but because I am on my mobile I can’t reply to you all (I’m old and don’t understand techy things)

I got the ick, OP, from your self-deprecating humour about your age.

Similar to what you say your daughter is doing, no?

Breadcat24 · 22/08/2024 19:58

Op I am sorry you are going through this.
I am also sorry you are getting a hard time on here.
If your 8 year was perfectly coherent before this baby talk I would simply ignore her when she does it- she thinks it is cute or will get her attention. Has she watched any movies lately with baby talk? How do her friends speak?

At 8 years old I would say to her " you are going to look like an idiot at school if you talk like that"
Not PC but I am old and it is the truth

Cantgetyououttamyhead · 22/08/2024 19:58

No advice but if it's any consolation my 8 year old son is also driving me mad.

pinkyredrose · 22/08/2024 19:56

DillyDilly · 22/08/2024 18:38

I think you need to seek professional advice. To me it seems like there might be a bigger issue and your daughter is a very unhappy person for some reason.

Oh come on! She's just mucking about!

Montydone · 22/08/2024 19:55

Maryahadaballtoday · 22/08/2024 19:41

Eff that. No. I’m NOT indulging my eight year old / who has no clue her Dad lost her job because we hide it from her - to talk like a baby.

Nope. Sorry but No. She has no clue, and we’ve hidden it from her because if she found out she’d be even more relentless with the baby speech.

My child goes into year four in two weeks.

OP do you notice what you are doing here? You are dismissing (with stern language) a thoughtful comment by another person and refusing to give it any air time. You are not reflecting on it or wondering whether maybe you could tweak your approach.

Your response right here says a lot for me. She needs some warmth from you and connection and understanding

Wigglytails · 22/08/2024 19:53

why are you getting so worked up about this? She is probably looking for your attention & just experimenting with your triggers. Do some funny voices back to her & when she is calm and behaving normally tell her it’s silly and not something you want in your family.

im sure there are plenty of mums who would take your perceived problem over many issues facing mums today

TheIranianYoghurtIsNotTheIssueHere · 22/08/2024 19:53

Maryahadaballtoday · 22/08/2024 19:44

I wish we could have more children, partner and I both have issues because of long Covid so it’s not on the cards for us

Errr you said in your OP that you'd been sterilised?

Lollipop81 · 22/08/2024 19:53

I didn’t realise children from “broken homes” talked like this 🤣🤣 are you from the 1960s? My children are from a so called broken home and at 5 and 6 they don’t talk like babies.
im sure it’s just a phase though and you are massively over reacting.

SummerSnowstorm · 22/08/2024 19:53

Maryahadaballtoday · 22/08/2024 19:47

@SummerSnowstorm the only reason I could think of is because a friend has a new baby but we hardly see this friend (friend lives in Suffolk and we live in south wales)

it’s driving me insane, there’s nothing wrong with her. But she won’t stop

With our DD it seems to be when she's struggling with communicating (because of being stressed/ overwhelmed/ tired/ around lots of people or whatever reason) then it's easier for her to communicate in the most basic form than to put effort into making a proper sentence in an appropriate voice.
She rarely uses baby talk when at home alone with us unless it's after a busy day out or when somethings gone wrong such as spilt drink or shes hurt herself etc, but its common when she's around other people or after stressful times like a school day or busy day out.

Reugny · 22/08/2024 19:52

Hobnobswantshernameback · 22/08/2024 19:51

Blimey I'm even more impressed now that you say you're in south wales and have managed to find three psychiatrists.
we could only find two private providers in the whole of south wales and waited years for a referral to the biggest hospital in south east wales
fair play provision and access must have moved on a lot in the last few years
wish it had been like that a few years ago

I thought some Welsh people travelled to England for medical care.

Sammyk85 · 22/08/2024 19:52

Maryahadaballtoday · 22/08/2024 18:23

I’m at my bloody wits end with my child and I’m very close to telling her so.

I have one child (daughter she’s eight) she is my only child as a few years ago I had my tubes tied neither me or partner wanted another daughter - perfectly fine with just one and she has plenty of cousins and friends to spend time with. I

Its worth noting before I go on that my child is not neurodivergent nor is she from a broken home. Me and her dad have been together twelve years. We have never broken up nor divorced either, partly because we’ve never been married. So there’s really no need for her to be doing what she does.

Lately she has been reverting back to baby speech - saying things like chippies or icky, the worst is bobo when she wants her water bottle and it’s grinding my gears to the maximum. It’s gotten so bad that my partner will flat out ignore her.

Earlier on today she had a full on temper tantrum and kept screaming “icky icky icky” over ice cream spilling on her fingers while we were out. When I pulled her up on to her feet and sternly told her she was on thin ice she reverted back to baby speech “I no wike you” was among my top five favourites.

AIBU to ignore her like my partner is doing? Is this a phase she’ll grow out of? I’m dreading sending her back to school the week after next because her baby talk has got so bad none of her friends have wanted to spend time all summer

I really don’t need the shaming mum parade, I’d like a hand hold and for someone to tell me their kid has also been driving them beserk too

although I know I’m likely to be flamed - Mumsnet seems to be that way

I’m not sure what relevance you’d think her speaking like a baby would be because she’s from a broken home?

Hobnobswantshernameback · 22/08/2024 19:51

Blimey I'm even more impressed now that you say you're in south wales and have managed to find three psychiatrists.
we could only find two private providers in the whole of south wales and waited years for a referral to the biggest hospital in south east wales
fair play provision and access must have moved on a lot in the last few years
wish it had been like that a few years ago

PlasticineKing · 22/08/2024 19:51

She’s old enough to know that it’s winding you up and she’s pushing/testing your boundaries. My DD is nearly 8 and doing similar with other things. Doing my tits in frankly but I know it will pass 🤪

Try not to show your irritation, although easier said than done. It’s part of the fun for her.

DragonDoor · 22/08/2024 19:51

Maryahadaballtoday · 22/08/2024 19:28

Why would i tell my child her father lost his job for something that wasn’t his fault?

OP, I mean this gently - but you sound very defensive here.

Sorry to hear your husband lost his job, but why are you mentioning it’s not ‘his fault’? Surely that would be presumed in the first instance.

Would he not be able to say to her in an age appropriate way that he has left his job and is now looking for another one?

What is your daughter’s relationship like with him? Do you all spend quality time together?

So many trips to psychiatrists and conversations with teachers indicate that something is affecting her.

Are there things at home and in your relationships that need to improve?

You sound frazzled, and although your daughter is not growing up in a ‘broken home’, it doesn’t sound like a happy one.

I’m not writing this to make you feel guilty, but just to relay back to you the picture you have been painting here.

Maryahadaballtoday · 22/08/2024 19:51

@Pomegranatecarnage we only speak English. I spoke welsh as a child. But don’t remember any of it now

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TheIranianYoghurtIsNotTheIssueHere · 22/08/2024 19:51

Maryahadaballtoday · 22/08/2024 19:18

That gave me a bloody fantastic laugh. She gets all the love and cuddles from both me and her dad. There’s nothing bothering her, she’s just being difficult and I’m at my wits end today.

I’ve had the worst week. A lot of stuff has happened that we won’t tell her because it’s not a place for a child to worry about adults issues. The last thing i need is my almost nine year old heading into year four acting like a two year old.

Hmm, I bet she absolutely does know and that's behind this behaviour.

Why did she see three psychiatrists, OP?

Reugny · 22/08/2024 19:50

My 5 year old DD randomly does this.

We tend to tell her babies don't get things that a 5 year old gets, then tell her it is nap time and say we are going to take her to bed or that we going to make her a bottle. We then change the subject and she then stops.

Oddly she doesn't do this for longer periods if she has actually been around a child under 2.

BobbyBiscuits · 22/08/2024 19:50

To me it sounds like attention seeking and if you ignore it then she will probably stop.
But she's still very young. A lot of primary age kids can revert back to younger behaviours when they feel a bit threatened or worried about something.
Can you ask her in a non threatening way if there's anything wrong or anything worrying her?
She might be feeling worried about growing up and going back to school. Maybe some of her peers are getting into older stuff like boys and makeup and she doesn't feel ready for that?
She may need reassurance that she's still your little girl and doesn't have to do grown up things yet.

Telemichus · 22/08/2024 19:49

NeverDropYourMooncup · 22/08/2024 18:29

My eldest spent five days with her father and his latest in a long line girlfriend and her children 250 miles away somewhere in the outskirts of Manchester when she was slightly younger than that. Never met them before, didn't even know he had a girlfriend.

She came back sounding like (for those who remember) Perry greeting Kevin after his trip to see Oasis. It lasted for the entire summer. The WHOLE SUMMER.

I couldn't even use the 'Oh, I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're saying, I don't speak Baby'.

Grit your teeth, don't respond to anything in baby talk, don't get mad (externally), just leave her to it and she'll go back to normal once she's around everybody else again. It's less than a fortnight now. You can do it.

Yes I remember my mum saying my sister did this after spending time with family in teeside.
my eldest is 8 and also hearing a lot of baby talk. Sometimes I let it go, sometimes I don’t understand.
it will get better (I hope)

Pomegranatecarnage · 22/08/2024 19:49

MounjaroUser · 22/08/2024 18:34

if you speak another language, only speak to her in that one. Tell her, once, in English that as long as she is talking in a language you don't speak, you will do the same to her.

This made me laugh - nothing the OP has said suggests she speaks another language.

Being monolingual is a minority status worldwide. I speak 4 languages!

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