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To say no when asked if sibling can come to party?

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PurplePetalPip · 22/08/2024 15:38

Hosting DS's 3rd birthday party at the weekend. It's the first birthday we've invited a few nursery friends to. I'm completely bonkers and decided to do it in our garden as thought the weather would be nice enough for a bouncy castle etc.

All in all there are 10 children coming. All around 3. One of the mums has just messaged asking if their son's sister can come too as she has no one to watch her. Sister is nearly 5 I believe.

If we were in a hall I'd probably agree but AIBU to say no in this case? I'm already stressing over having ten 3 year olds running around the garden. There will be additional adults there in grandparents and aunty and realistically one extra child won't take up much room but I just feel like it's cheeky and changes the dynamics. They were very late in responding to the invite - only knew they were coming 2 weeks ago and no mention of additional child then.

If I say sorry, due to space we can't accommodate, I won't really mind if she says the boy can't come then. The issue would be if it's awkward she miraculously finds childcare and comes along!

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Spirallingdownwards · 22/08/2024 20:40

StarryDance · 22/08/2024 19:26

It's a kids party with a few sandwiches,sausage rolls , crisps and cake. Hardly catering a sit down meal.

Hence why I said it is a no from me
You can do you. And if everyone bought a sibling it's double the number.

When I did parties at that age I did up little lunch boxes for the correct number of kids with their food in them so there wasn't waste. I also did nice party bags so I wouldn't be forking out another fiver per sibling.

As I said you do you. If you are happy to include extras then do it but don't be a CF and ask others to.

Pickled21 · 22/08/2024 20:32

As it is a party at home I'd be inclined to say it was fine. If it was at softplay or somewhere where you have to pay per head I'd likely say no.

Lesmiserables2024 · 22/08/2024 20:31

If you are expecting parents to stay at the parent then it's probably the parent just trying to work out to the logistics so that her 3 year old doesn't miss the party. You don't have to necessarily give the 5 yr old a party bag etc, but she could enjoy being involved as a helper.

And I wouldn't say 2 weeks out is late rsvp.

I guess it's just how you expect people to behave and what their intentions are but this sounds a fair enough question for the parent to ask.

Glowpink · 22/08/2024 20:05

This seems mad. I would always invite siblings unless it was paid for per person like laser tag or something. As a single mum my two go to all hall or house type parties together and no one has ever said no.

Werweisswohin · 22/08/2024 19:59

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Eh?

Flossyts · 22/08/2024 19:56

bergamotorange · 22/08/2024 17:04

Sorry, what?

Parents who have childcare options have childcare options. But not everyone does have childcare options, obviously.

Also, (beyond a partner) you can only use your childcare options so many times before it becomes cheeky asking. I’m quite certain someone with a limited support network would prefer not to waste childcare time on the privilege of going to a 3 year olds party whose mum wasn’t even decent enough to let them bring their supervised 5 year old 🤦‍♀️. Honestly I wonder why so many parents struggle to raise kids these days and then I see shit posts like this. It takes a village - glad I don’t live in a lot of yours!

(And for the record I have a full support network - dh plus in laws, parents and sisters within a 5 mile radius and I still think this is shitty and petty)

Comedycook · 22/08/2024 19:50

Jellybeanbag · 22/08/2024 18:23

That's so rude. What did you do when you saw her next?

She looked very sheepish and embarrassed...quite rightly. I didn't bother with her much after that. Looking back I wish I'd invoiced her for the £32! No good deed goes unpunished!

WickieRoy · 22/08/2024 19:41

peepsypops · 22/08/2024 19:32

I'm just shocked a RSVP for a child's party two weeks out is considered late?! Really?

I know. Two weeks out from our birthday parties I've sent invitations, booked a venue/bouncy castle and maybe ordered a cake. Zero thought will have gone into catering or party bags at that stage.

StarryDance · 22/08/2024 19:38

peepsypops · 22/08/2024 19:32

I'm just shocked a RSVP for a child's party two weeks out is considered late?! Really?

It's not late. People can't always plan things weeks in advance.

peepsypops · 22/08/2024 19:32

I'm just shocked a RSVP for a child's party two weeks out is considered late?! Really?

StarryDance · 22/08/2024 19:31

I always over cater anyway. So I'd be glad it all got eaten.

StarryDance · 22/08/2024 19:26

Spirallingdownwards · 22/08/2024 19:20

It's a no from me. They aren't invited. They are not the same age. The host will be catering for the number she invited including party bags if doing them. I simply don't understand why people have an expectation that siblings can in effect gate crash.

It's a kids party with a few sandwiches,sausage rolls , crisps and cake. Hardly catering a sit down meal.

Spirallingdownwards · 22/08/2024 19:20

It's a no from me. They aren't invited. They are not the same age. The host will be catering for the number she invited including party bags if doing them. I simply don't understand why people have an expectation that siblings can in effect gate crash.

Silvers11 · 22/08/2024 19:17

PurplePetalPip · 22/08/2024 16:04

@DragonFly98 the whole point of this post is to gauge opinions on this so clearly I'm undecided on what I'm going to do. Of course I don't expect her to leave the child alone. There are other options - I.e. find childcare or don't come. I don't know what my response will be yet though anyway hence this post so there's no need to be so rude.

@PurplePetalPip I'm not clear whether you are expecting parents to stay with their children or dropping them and running?

I would expect parents of 3 year olds to stay with them, so that's a different situation than parents dropping them off. If they have asked because they can't get childcare for the older child, that suggests to me that they were intending on staying?

WickieRoy · 22/08/2024 19:12

Smartiepants79 · 22/08/2024 19:08

You’re deliberately missing my point.
It might just be one child. It might be 5 or 6 if I make it known that all siblings are welcome.
And you have no idea how much a I budget to spend per child! We have small parties so I can spend what I want on each kid. If I wanted a 20 person party then I’d invite 20 people.

It won't be though. Most people are decent.

I've practically spent more time at children's parties than I have in my own home the past couple of years, I've never known an avalanche of siblings.

Smartiepants79 · 22/08/2024 19:09

@LewishamMumNow so party food and party bags are free now are they? Of course they cost money!

Smartiepants79 · 22/08/2024 19:08

Moonshine5 · 22/08/2024 19:03

"coughing up a load of money" ? @Smartiepants79
OP is at home - it's one extra child a 5 year old.

You’re deliberately missing my point.
It might just be one child. It might be 5 or 6 if I make it known that all siblings are welcome.
And you have no idea how much a I budget to spend per child! We have small parties so I can spend what I want on each kid. If I wanted a 20 person party then I’d invite 20 people.

Moonshine5 · 22/08/2024 19:03

"coughing up a load of money" ? @Smartiepants79
OP is at home - it's one extra child a 5 year old.

LewishamMumNow · 22/08/2024 19:00

Smartiepants79 · 22/08/2024 18:24

It is actually not my experience that most children have parties.
We have had years when my kids were the only one. They do other things like family trips out etc.
I’m not going to be made to feel Bad for not wanted to cough up a load more money for kids I didn’t invite and who my child doesn’t even know.
Mumsnet always claims that kids shouldn’t have to invite children they don’t like. Why is this different?

But it doesn't involve any money - it's in her house!
And this is not about the kid not liking someone: it's about the Mum having a childcare problem. Isn't mumsnet sympathetic to that?
I think OP is being mean, and why anyone things the Mum is a CF for asking with lengthy notice is beyond me.

LewishamMumNow · 22/08/2024 18:57

howaboutchocolate · 22/08/2024 18:35

I would say no. Other people at the party might have found it easier to bring a sibling too but they weren't cheeky enough to ask. One more child might not make a difference but 6 or 7 older children at a party for 10 three year olds would change it completely. And you can't make an exception for one person and not everybody else.

I would never ask to take a sibling to a party unless it was a babe in arms who wouldn't be joining in.

WTF is cheeky about asking, and explaining the particular difficulty, with two weeks notice? It's not about "being easier" - she can't. You are only making an exception for a very small number of people who "can't": everyone else is irrelevant.
I'm a single parent. If I'm expected to stay (I'm very happy to leave my child), then I'm bringing the siblings. (NB I would ask, and obviously a "paid activity" eg soft play is different, but by then they are old enough to be left anyway.)
Asking is polite, not cheeky.

zaffa · 22/08/2024 18:56

selldonaterecycle · 22/08/2024 15:41

I would say no. She's a bit of a cf for asking actually! Just say that as it's at home you're limited with space and leave it at that.

I really disagree with this! I think that for parents of multiple young children, if they don't have another parent or child care to watch the sibling what are they supposed to do?
I only have one small child so this isn't an issue I have ever had, but I've always expected siblings at DD parties and catered for them - I'd rather she had a few extra guests than missed one of her friends

soupmaker · 22/08/2024 18:51

Marchbug · 22/08/2024 18:10

I'd say yes without even thinking about it, it's hardly going to make a difference to anything and might just make someone's day easier 🙂

This, with bells on.

Some of the posts on this thread are absolute peak Mumsnet.

CaptainCallisto · 22/08/2024 18:50

Sacmagique75 · 22/08/2024 16:43

Out of interest, how many children do you have? Speaking as a parent of two fairly close in age, it is difficult when invited to things that you need to stay at, to make alternative arrangements for the sibling when you are the primary carer. That said, this is a weekend party so unless she is a single parent, there is presumably a partner who can watch the 5 year old? If it’s the case and she wants to bring both to give him the morning off, that’s a bit cheeky. If she has no partner and therefore no childcare, I think it would be fair to include the 5 year old.

I get very tired of the assumption on MN that everyone works Mon-Fri. DH is a supermarket manager. He works shifts, which 99.9% of the time include both weekend days.

We don't have any other family nearby, (and bearing in mind DSis is a midwife, who also works weekends, and BIL a highway patrol officer doing likewise, it wouldn't make much difference if they lived on the same street) so I always had to ask when the kids were invited to parties. I always asked in advance, always said there was no pressure, and that it was fine if sibling couldn't be accommodated. It was 50/50 on whether they went, and that was fine - I just needed to know ahead of time. It's not cheeky to ask - it's a fucking necessity for an awful lot of people!

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 22/08/2024 18:46

Once the children are old enough to not need the parents staying, it’s cheeky to request to bring another child but when the parents need to stay I think it has got to be seen as necessary sometimes.
finding childcare is not that easy a lot of the time.
surely it’s better to ask that just decline outright if she has no childcare. If you were fine with it (and lots would be) then she would have declined unnecessarily.

BettyBardMacDonald · 22/08/2024 18:36

howaboutchocolate · 22/08/2024 18:35

I would say no. Other people at the party might have found it easier to bring a sibling too but they weren't cheeky enough to ask. One more child might not make a difference but 6 or 7 older children at a party for 10 three year olds would change it completely. And you can't make an exception for one person and not everybody else.

I would never ask to take a sibling to a party unless it was a babe in arms who wouldn't be joining in.

It's none of the other guests' business who the OP chooses to include. Period.