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You can’t relativise sadness … but surely you can?

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comoatoupeira · 22/08/2024 11:15

I see and hear a lot of stuff at the moment about how you can’t make people feel better by saying that it could have been worse or you’re fortunate compared to other people.

The idea at the moment seems to be that everyone has their own way of feeling sad and everyone has the right to feel sad without other people saying they shouldn’t.
I get it and I can see how it’s important to face up to your own feelings about stuff without being judged.

But I was just reflecting this morning on that mum whose daughter is in the hull of that ship, drowned for sure but she’s waiting for the confirmation, and I was comparing it to when I was waiting for some really bad news (cancer results), which was the worst fortnight of my life and I have never felt so low and I was just thinking: actually, the woman in the yaught tragedy actually does have it a lot worse. Off the scale worse.

AIBU to think that yes you can relativise sorrow, and it’s actually the decent thing to do when we live in a community?

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HappierTimesAhead · 22/08/2024 11:36

Quacksalver · 22/08/2024 11:33

Sure, if a person arrives at that conclusion themselves. I read about an animal abuse case a few years ago which stuck with me because it was so awful. Any suffering I've been through pales into comparison of what those poor animals went through.

When my dh died a few years ago a family member told me "remember there are starving children in the world" and that didn't help much really.

That is off the scale inappropriate and insensitive. I am sorry for your loss.

I think you have a point OP but maybe it's about personal reflection rather than someone else making the comparison.

comoatoupeira · 22/08/2024 11:36

I am sorry for your loss @Quacksalver (sincerely)

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Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong · 22/08/2024 11:35

I agree you can, but it's when to say it and how you say it is the issue. 'It could be worse' might be appropriate for someone who is moping for months feeling sorry for themselves and making bad decisions, not appropriate days after bad news. A pet hate of mine is when someone has bad news and they are told they are lucky, like in the next breath. If you had a fall and shattered your leg you are not 'lucky' the other one is OK. I know someone who does this so often that I tend to hold back on personal information.

So yes I agree you can compare but mostly I think keep it to yourself.

comoatoupeira · 22/08/2024 11:34

Yes, I see the difference. Because if you are saying “remember there are starving children in the world” it’s so flippant, it’s just a masked way of saying “we are tired of your sadness”. Whereas if you actually talk about something specific, gently, patiently, it can help them see where they are related to other people.

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Quacksalver · 22/08/2024 11:33

Sure, if a person arrives at that conclusion themselves. I read about an animal abuse case a few years ago which stuck with me because it was so awful. Any suffering I've been through pales into comparison of what those poor animals went through.

When my dh died a few years ago a family member told me "remember there are starving children in the world" and that didn't help much really.

comoatoupeira · 22/08/2024 11:32

The thing is is for example when someone I don’t know loses their dog and they say it feels like losing a relative and you say that’s fine, you can’t compare, everyone feels in their own way, that’s not honestly what people are thinking in their heads. Same as when people say you can feel just as much grief about a MC at 6 weeks as you can about stillbirth. Maybe you can, but privately everyone is thinking “a stillbirth is much worse”.
How can we deal with this feeling of hypocrisy? You don’t say what you feel because it’s hurtful. But you feel guilty to be having these thoughts. Anyone relate?

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Genevieva · 22/08/2024 11:25

I would imagine the pain of losing your own child trumps all other pains. We are biologically predisposed to sacrifice our own lives for our children, so so agree, her torment is off the scale.

comoatoupeira · 22/08/2024 11:22

Maybe the people who have voted YABU could explain from a psychological or ethical point of view? I’m sure I’m missing something.

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SoftandQuiet · 22/08/2024 11:16

I agree, but then I’ve always been a Pollyanna.

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