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Husband has secretly given kids an e-scooter

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PortaRoast · 22/08/2024 11:09

The title says it all really. I found out from a friend last night that my kids have an e-scooter and that at least one of them has been using it while I'm at work. It turns out DH bought it for them on Saturday and decided not to tell me.

I've always said absolutely no to getting one because they're illegal to use on the road and (in my opinion) very dangerous for kids to be on. Our kids are 14 and 17.

If I put my foot down and make him get rid of it the kids will be upset with me, but I don't want to allow them to use it either. I don't know how to handle this and I'm absolutely furious that this has been done behind my back.

So, AIBU for being so angry with DH or is it no big deal and do I need to chill about it?

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LanaL · 29/08/2024 18:55

YANBU

your DH is being very unreasonable to have forced you into a position to have to be the “bad guy” . They are unsafe and you have to put your foot down but it’s very unfair on you .

I know someone who came off one of these and broke their hip , ribs and arm. They had to have a hip replacement at 32.

fishingoutofthewater · 28/08/2024 15:49

PortaRoast · 22/08/2024 15:16

I think I need to clarify a few details which I didn't think would be important. I know there is an e-scooter. I know my 14 year old son has been using it on the road (I asked him). I don't care if it's in the garage, shed, boot of the car, that's not the point here. I am extremely upset that behind my back DH has bought an e-scooter knowing how upset I'd be if my children had one and then didn't bother to tell me about it. Presumably he told the kids not to tell me although I do not know this for sure.
The AIBU is about how furious and upset I am about it. I wanted to test the level of 'chill' about this on mumsnet before I tackle the situation with DH.

ZERO chill here, whatever the opinions on scooters, you expressed a concern with your husband regarding your children. In response he:

  1. ignored your concerns
  2. behaved like a small child by not even telling you that he did it anyway

I would struggle to respect him, especially as he doesn't seem to respect you.

MissEsmeWatson · 28/08/2024 14:53

FOURTEEN, HE'S FOURTEEN!

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Phoenixfire1988 · 27/08/2024 13:45

Also your son will be 18 soon and I hate to break it to you but you will have absolutely NO control over what he does or doesn't do or buy at that point .
Shocking I know allowing an adult to make their own decisions

Personally, I didn't understand the OP's thread as being about her 17 yo using an e-scooter but about the fact OP has clearly discussed with her husband about e-scooters and already said that she doesn't want her kids to have them. She's upset that her husband disregarded her opinion and choice and bought one anyways. It's not about her almost adult child making their own choices, but about her partner not acting like one.
I think I'd first have a calm, collected conversion with husband, stating clearly again why I don't want them to have an e-scooter. Then, I'll talk about the betrayal of your word and role as a parent by him buying one anyway. For this convo, I'd write bullet points in advance and try and keep to that, focusing on not losing my cool. Then I'll tell husband that you will both have a conversation with the kids together to explain you will take the e-scooter away and why (your decision rationale + the fact dad should have respected that and he's made a mistake) and proceed to sell the e-scooter.
If the 17 yo wants to buy one when they're 18, cool, but not allowed to store it at your house/garage and the 14yo will have to wait until they're 18 to use it/one.

outdamnedspots · 28/08/2024 12:20

Phoenixfire1988 · 27/08/2024 13:45

Also your son will be 18 soon and I hate to break it to you but you will have absolutely NO control over what he does or doesn't do or buy at that point .
Shocking I know allowing an adult to make their own decisions

RTFT

BlossomOfOrange · 28/08/2024 07:42

Could you let your kids know that their dad has made a mistake, that the e-scooter road use is illegal, and given you don’t have private land the scooters have now been taken away? Stress to them dad’s error/the law, and keep your opinion/feelings out of it. Show them this re penalties, guidance and gov trial: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/e-scooter-trials-guidance-for-users

Your dh is an idiot for putting your kids and you in this position.

E-scooter trials: guidance for users

Where you are allowed to ride an e-scooter rented as part of a government trial, how to travel safely, licensing guidance and the rules of the road.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/e-scooter-trials-guidance-for-users

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autienotnaughty · 28/08/2024 06:25

I would have photographed it. Sold it on Facebook marketplace. Dropped it off at the buyers house. Kept the cash. Feigned ignorance when dh mentioned it.

sashh · 28/08/2024 03:42

Well as long as your husband is prepared for your children to get a criminal record for:

Driving without a licence (the 17 year old might if he has a provisional licence)
Driving without insurance

Also if one of your children causes an accident who is liable to pay out the damages? Parents, as far as I know, are not liable for their children's damage unless they are negligent. Proving negligence when a parent has bought what is in effect a motor vehicle and let his child use it is a fairly easy task.

Do you have the odd £60 000 hanging around in case one of your children causes an accident?

OP Why not suggest to your husband you hand over the car keys? I'm sure he wouldn't consider it but the same laws apply to e-scooters.

www.south-wales.police.uk/police-forces/south-wales-police/areas/campaigns/campaigns/e-scooters-your-questions-answered/#:~:text=What%20happens%20if%20police%20stop,be%20liable%20to%20be%20prosecuted.

DogsAtDawn · 28/08/2024 02:58

The general consensus appears to be, steal it, hide it, break it, sell it and such. One even suggests selling it and keeping the money to by yourself "something nice".

I can see why you would be annoyed about it all and not want your children on these dangerous things but being a deceitful control freak is not going to do you any favours in the long run.

How about being a grown up and having a conversation with DH about why he felt the need to go behind your back and lie about it.

BeGratefulOfGlimmers · 28/08/2024 02:23

Kill joy. Sounds like a barrel in your house. Poor DH and kids.

JillMW · 27/08/2024 21:11

Has the friend seen them on it or have her kids told her that your kids have one and they want one too? Maybe kids don’t do that sort of thing these days but I used to tell my mum that friends had something when I hoped for one, my kids did the same. It did not work but we tried 😂

CosyLemur · 27/08/2024 20:53

They aren't dangerous as long as they're used properly - I guess if you've not brought your kids up right if they aren't sensible enough to use one correctly!

Welshmonster · 27/08/2024 20:41

Ask your husband how he will feel if his kid gets injured or it gets confiscated?

these decisions should be made together but it’s hard to navigate as why does try e person who says no get to decide for everyone.
I think you now need to go down the route of riding safely for your kids and set some ground rules for use. Eg wearing something bright as the kids I see are in the dark, no lights and wearing black clothing. Practically invisible

Jiski · 27/08/2024 17:47

My friend’s son died on an e-scooter. She will never get over it. If you need to show them news articles to explain why they can’t have it. If they hate you for it, it won’t be for long. Can you get them something else to replace it - to soften the blow?

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godmum56 · 27/08/2024 15:38

IamnotSethRogan · 27/08/2024 08:43

I duno I'm sort of on the fence. I think linking articles to accidents that have been caused by them is a bit disingenuous, plenty of people have been killed on push bikes.

I disagree with him getting them behind your back but I don't see why one parent can just completely veto something because they don't like it. Fwiw I don't love them either and it's never really come up in our house.

He shouldn't have got them behind your back but you can't just decide no one can have them because of your opinion.

she doesn't have to. They have nowhere private to use them and using them in public places is illegal unless rented.

PortaRoast · 27/08/2024 14:39

Phoenixfire1988 · 27/08/2024 13:45

Also your son will be 18 soon and I hate to break it to you but you will have absolutely NO control over what he does or doesn't do or buy at that point .
Shocking I know allowing an adult to make their own decisions

My son is 14.

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Phoenixfire1988 · 27/08/2024 13:45

Also your son will be 18 soon and I hate to break it to you but you will have absolutely NO control over what he does or doesn't do or buy at that point .
Shocking I know allowing an adult to make their own decisions

Phoenixfire1988 · 27/08/2024 13:33

The fact he lied about it and went behind your back is what would wind me up but your kids aren't exactly little and the police will just take it off them if caught which is why I won't buy one , it would be a total waste of money .
What watt are we talking about aswell one that goes a sensible speed or a 1000w that can reach 30+mph

Maray1967 · 27/08/2024 09:33

coffeenootropics · 22/08/2024 15:25

i would be distraught actually

my ex wouldn’t even do this even if he wanted to and is entirely his prerogative to

why? because i didn’t want him to and when i comes to dangerous vehicles as this… the parent with the concern trumps the parent without the concern

Agreed. I’d have gone to check, it was there, stuck it in my car, and taken it to the nearest police station and handed it in. I’d have asked if a PCSO can come and have a chat with my moron of a DH.

Zanatdy · 27/08/2024 09:18

Fine if people are using these to commute, when it’s legal, not fine when kids are whizzing around on them illegally causing a nuisance. The fact is your DH went behind your back, I’d be fuming. My DD used one her cousins had, and broke her wrist.

ladybossmum · 27/08/2024 09:13

Get rid of it. Don’t worry about being a fun mum. They are dangerous if they are using it on the road, not only from falling off, likely without a helmet but also because of other road users and a lack of knowledge of the high way code. From experience within my work, they are a serious injury waiting to happen. If you wouldn’t let them have a moped, don’t let them have one of these.

Then discuss with your husband why he feels the need to do this behind your back and is happy to put your children at risk?