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I don't care what issues your kid has you still need to parent them

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Differentstarts · 21/08/2024 19:17

I'm fuming just had a massive argument with my now ex friend because she won't parent her kid. I don't care if your kid is ND, NT or identifies as a tablecloth you still need to parent them. I was at my friends this afternoon with my kids 7 and 4 and her kids 9 and 5. Our eldest kids where sat together nicely watching a film and youngest 2 where playing. Her 5 year old suddenly decides she wants to watch telly and picks the remote control up and changes the channel. My friends response was to the eldest 2 just let her otherwise she will kick off you can watch the rest later. Her eldest just accepted this he's clearly use to it. However I'm not accepting that so I took the remote and put the film back on so with that screaming and tears
Her eldest was agreeing with his mum and saying it's OK I don't mind Which was also annoying me. Then my friend started having a go at me how iv upset her daughter and how the kids didn't even mind watching it later. I struggle with anger issues so at this point I'm losing my shit at her (I know I shouldn't have) and I got my kids and left. I'm still fuming. I know I should of just left straight away but come on what is wrong with people

Yabu. If the eldest 2 where happy to watch it later you should of gone along with it
Yanbu she needs to discipline her daughter

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Differentstarts · 26/08/2024 17:56

Mumandcarer80 · 26/08/2024 17:47

And I couldn't be around someone so childish to blow something so trivial out of proportion.

Cool story bro 😎

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Mumandcarer80 · 26/08/2024 17:47

Differentstarts · 22/08/2024 10:18

I have left the friendship now I can't be around someone who treats their kids like that

And I couldn't be around someone so childish to blow something so trivial out of proportion.

Sameshitdifferentdayx · 22/08/2024 17:47

graceinspace999 · 22/08/2024 16:56

You are literally wrong - go back and read all the gentle parents who said they would have used violence on the OP if they had been the other mum.

So the threats were indirect and that’s ok with you?

Not one person kind enough to point out the cruelty in Bumblebeestiltsmum’s comment…

Why not remove your hand from your face and read the angry comments.

They are simply saying what they would do in that situation.
If someone was invited to my house, with my children present, and they started losing their temper with a 5 year old child, over something small yes, I'd want them out my house too!
IMO it was taken way out of proportion. Both sides may of acted wrong, but to resort to losing your temper is someone else's home over the way they choose to parent at that moment in time, isn't great is it?
Pick your battles moment.

BowlOfNoodles · 22/08/2024 17:27

graceinspace999 · 22/08/2024 15:42

So you’re so anxious to defend your own threatened aggression that now you’re assuming the OP was threatening her friend.

I think you’re part of a pile-on here which is one of the worst I’ve seen on Mumsnet.

The op said its typical of her outbursts... I'd 100% escort somebody out who was threatening me no excuses needed this is my home nobody can come In here trying to intimate me in it under any circumstances

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 22/08/2024 17:09

Differentstarts · 22/08/2024 10:06

It happens all the time like when their supposed to be going somewhere but princess decides she doesn't want to so they don't go. If she wants to play with something he has. I think she does it on purpose because she always looks at him with a smirk when mum sides with her. If where all sat in the garden and she wants to go in but wont go in on her own she wants everyone to go in with her. If he's ever of school she refuses to go to. She wont go to bed until he does she will never allow any one on one time between mum and son. And the mum allows all this to happen and the son just gives in everytime as he's been taught to not upset her

On the basis of this post, I agree with you, @Differentstarts, that your friend needs to parent her dd better, and stop favouring her over her son. From what I have read on here, in Golden Child/Black Sheep situations (which this sounds like), neither child benefits. The black sheep knows their parent doesn’t love them the way they love the sibling, and that is bound to cause childhood trauma (far, far more than mum’s friend getting angry), and the Golden child doesn’t learn the skills to survive and thrive in a world that doesn’t centre them all the time.

ChiffandBipper · 22/08/2024 17:03

I think you are asking more than one question here.

Is it OK that a 5 year old changed the channel when someone else was watching something? (No)

Is it OK that your friend didn't intervene and say "you can have your choice later, there's X minutes of this left so they are going to finish watching this first"? (No)

Is it OK that you "lost your shit" in front of 4, 5, 7 and 9 year old children? (No)

You were all unreasonable and you need to calm down and should probably apologise to your friend. And to her children.

graceinspace999 · 22/08/2024 16:56

Sameshitdifferentdayx · 22/08/2024 16:40

There are literally no threats made. 🤦‍♀️

You are literally wrong - go back and read all the gentle parents who said they would have used violence on the OP if they had been the other mum.

So the threats were indirect and that’s ok with you?

Not one person kind enough to point out the cruelty in Bumblebeestiltsmum’s comment…

Why not remove your hand from your face and read the angry comments.

Universalsnail · 22/08/2024 16:46

Differentstarts · 22/08/2024 11:07

I didn't start the fight my friend did

No you did when you decided to take it upon yourself to override her parenting in her home where you were a guest in some rediculous scene you are now ranting about on Mums net even though you are coming across emotionally unstable and aggressive and like social services needs to be involved to protect your children from the impact of your personality disorder 😕

Sameshitdifferentdayx · 22/08/2024 16:40

graceinspace999 · 22/08/2024 16:35

No, that’s not what she said. She said she couldn’t remember and then she guessed at what she might have said. This honesty gave the bullies ammunition and what a bunch of hypocrites they’ve proved themselves to be.

She has now been bullied and threatened by so many on this thread that I’ve lost count.

Even the charming super mum who weaponised the OPs lack of parents herself has failed to apologise for her nasty remark.

There are literally no threats made. 🤦‍♀️

Sameshitdifferentdayx · 22/08/2024 16:38

graceinspace999 · 22/08/2024 14:24

Lucky she wasn’t assaulted????

She intervened in one child bullying several others by switching the program off that they we’re watching.

OP was invited to the house and that didn’t include conceding a free pass to her kids being bullied.

The other mum was wrong and should have stopped it herself but she didn’t and when OP intervened the daft mother had a go at her!!!

Of course this made OP angry.

Most of the posters here are so easy triggered into anger that they’re throwing angry insults at a complete stranger on a public platform and some of you are also talking about assaulting her.

WTF 😳

Bullying is a tad extreme. From what has been said I wouldn't say the 5 year old in question was bullying the rest of them. Majority of 5 year olds don't even know what bullying is fgs.
None of us are angry, or certainly from what I've seen nobody is. But from what OP has replied to and said, she hasn't helped herself.
If you think retaliating with a temper infront of children of any age not in your own home is ok, then you're wrong. She should of been the better person, collected her things and moved on.. simple as that.
She posted on here for opinions. People have given them. If she doesn't think she did anything wrong and she's right, as she has stated, then she didn't necessarily need to post on here in the first place.

graceinspace999 · 22/08/2024 16:35

CandyLeBonBon · 22/08/2024 15:58

@graceinspace999 the OP has been very open that she shouted/swore/threatened her friend and was in a rage so bad she can't remember what she said, and that this was done in front of the children. These are the OPs own words, not assumptions!

No, that’s not what she said. She said she couldn’t remember and then she guessed at what she might have said. This honesty gave the bullies ammunition and what a bunch of hypocrites they’ve proved themselves to be.

She has now been bullied and threatened by so many on this thread that I’ve lost count.

Even the charming super mum who weaponised the OPs lack of parents herself has failed to apologise for her nasty remark.

CandyLeBonBon · 22/08/2024 15:58

@graceinspace999 the OP has been very open that she shouted/swore/threatened her friend and was in a rage so bad she can't remember what she said, and that this was done in front of the children. These are the OPs own words, not assumptions!

graceinspace999 · 22/08/2024 15:42

BowlOfNoodles · 22/08/2024 14:59

The op has said she can't remember what she said but it usually involves shouting/swearing/threatening if somebody did that in your home you ARE under threatening conditions 100% I'd defend myself in that situation

So you’re so anxious to defend your own threatened aggression that now you’re assuming the OP was threatening her friend.

I think you’re part of a pile-on here which is one of the worst I’ve seen on Mumsnet.

Bumblebeestiltskin · 22/08/2024 15:29

graceinspace999 · 22/08/2024 14:46

Can you go any lower with the insults to this woman?

If you were as calm and considerate as you think you are you’d have some decency and apologise for saying something so nasty.

I feel sorry for her, but I feel my re sorry for her kids. She needs to break the cycle, but all she's doing is revelling in her behaviour and arguing with everyone who disagrees.

Missamyp · 22/08/2024 15:22

I'm not aware of any updates, but some parents allow their children to dominate the house. Personally, I have no tolerance for this type of parenting. However, since it's her house, I'll continue socializing and then move on from the situation.

BowlOfNoodles · 22/08/2024 14:59

graceinspace999 · 22/08/2024 14:24

Lucky she wasn’t assaulted????

She intervened in one child bullying several others by switching the program off that they we’re watching.

OP was invited to the house and that didn’t include conceding a free pass to her kids being bullied.

The other mum was wrong and should have stopped it herself but she didn’t and when OP intervened the daft mother had a go at her!!!

Of course this made OP angry.

Most of the posters here are so easy triggered into anger that they’re throwing angry insults at a complete stranger on a public platform and some of you are also talking about assaulting her.

WTF 😳

The op has said she can't remember what she said but it usually involves shouting/swearing/threatening if somebody did that in your home you ARE under threatening conditions 100% I'd defend myself in that situation

Maria1979 · 22/08/2024 14:58

Differentstarts · 22/08/2024 13:01

Firstly she started it secondly my kids have plenty of friends and I get on great with their parents as they actually parent their kids and their kids are spoilt little brats. It was my concern as it affected my kid

You are the adult OP and you need to model normal adult behaviour for your children when there is a conflict however hard it is.

For arguments sake let's say the 5 y old girl is a spoilt little brat who actually needs firm boundaries (like all children). What you could have done is stood up for the elder children and CALMLY pleaded their case to your friend. If friend still wanted princess to have her way you could have CALMLY said that then you will have to leave with your children because you don't think it's fair to let one child's desire rule over all the others.

See. You could have made your point and kept your dignity and showed your children that you stood up for them in a normal civilised way without retorting to throw a tantrum like a 2 y old.

PixieLaLar · 22/08/2024 14:54

YANBU and I am so sick of people justifying their kids bratty behaviour because they can’t be arsed to parent and discipline their kids.

ND or NT you still parent. You don’t just let your kid get what they want because it’s easier. What exactly is that teaching them? I feel sorry for the other child.

graceinspace999 · 22/08/2024 14:46

Bumblebeestiltskin · 22/08/2024 10:37

That's becoming very apparent 😞

Can you go any lower with the insults to this woman?

If you were as calm and considerate as you think you are you’d have some decency and apologise for saying something so nasty.

CandyLeBonBon · 22/08/2024 14:39

@graceinspace999

Of course this made OP angry.

It's one thing being angry - but surely that's the point you tell the kids it's time to leave, and walk away before your anger escalates. It's entirely another to lose your shit so badly you swear, shout and make threats and are in such a rage that you can't remember what you said.

Surely you can understand the difference?

graceinspace999 · 22/08/2024 14:31

Mrsttcno1 · 21/08/2024 19:43

YABU.

If you can’t even control your temper as a grown adult with a child, you’re a hypocrite of the highest order to expect a 5 year old to control theirs with potential ND.

Also if you were kicking off with me in my own house over my parenting choices, I’d have quite physically kicked you straight out the door. What an arsehole.

You’d have physically kicked her out the door! So you’ve got violence issues but that’s ok.

Who’s the hypocrite here?

ASimpleLampoon · 22/08/2024 14:28

This is a prime example on how children are held to higher standards than adults. A very young ND child no less.

No she didn't parent the way you would.

But with 5 year olds especially ND you pick your battles.

The 5 year old has years to learn how to regulate and take turns.

Might be too late for OP....

graceinspace999 · 22/08/2024 14:24

BowlOfNoodles · 21/08/2024 19:50

It's abit of tele ultimately... personally if you have lost ya shit in somebody else's home and with their kids you've absolutely lost any highground you're lucky you wasn't assaulted tbh.

Lucky she wasn’t assaulted????

She intervened in one child bullying several others by switching the program off that they we’re watching.

OP was invited to the house and that didn’t include conceding a free pass to her kids being bullied.

The other mum was wrong and should have stopped it herself but she didn’t and when OP intervened the daft mother had a go at her!!!

Of course this made OP angry.

Most of the posters here are so easy triggered into anger that they’re throwing angry insults at a complete stranger on a public platform and some of you are also talking about assaulting her.

WTF 😳

alldayeveryday247 · 22/08/2024 14:14

To be honest, it's a bit rich to say children need to regulate their emotions from 2 or they'll be brats (to the extent you claim that your kids didn't really have tantrums post 2 years old) when you go into such blind rages that you forget what you've said and done. As an adult. And parent. In front of children.

Don't you see the hypocrisy there?

You're expecting more emotional regulation from toddlers and primary ages children than you are from yourself.

Sameshitdifferentdayx · 22/08/2024 13:48

Differentstarts · 22/08/2024 13:44

Yes at 2 not 5

My youngest is nearly 5 and rest assured his tantrums are still high force, worse than my older 2 sons were 🤣😂 who's to say they stop at 2?
They're still learning at 5.

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