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To be in tears over how destructive my 2.5 year old is?

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AngeloMysterioso · 21/08/2024 11:47

So far today, he has:

-Smashed a soap dispenser bottle I bought three weeks ago to replace the last soap dispenser bottle he smashed

-Opened a new packet of wet wipes and pulled out every single one

-Got all the bagged toys out of the toy box (I separate things like puzzle pieces, little toy cars, wooden blocks etc into the big zip lock bags so they’re easy to find) opened every single bag and chucked the contents on the floor (without playing with any of them)

-Opened a new storage box I bought last week for his toy trains, emptied it all over the floor, and then jumped up and down on the empty box until it cracked and broke

-Poured fruit juice all over the coffee table and splashed it everywhere with his hands, so now it’s also all over the carpet

-Taken all the sofa cushions off the sofa, unzipped the covers and pulled all the stuffing out.

I just sat down and wept. We’ve got a very small home and three DC, and I’ve been working so hard to make it a nice space for us in spite of how cramped it is, but my day to day existence just seems to be going from one mess or broken thing to another. I just feel like giving up.

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CabbagesAndCeilingWax · 21/08/2024 12:35

OP you are in the THICK of it right now. You would definitely not be the first parent to hide in the loo and have a quick cry. Will he be going to nursery/preschool in September?

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Balkanbabies · 21/08/2024 12:34

Hi! I'm kind of disappointed for you that so many posts say something to the effect of 'do better '. You're doing your best, and it's enough. Your child sounds like a force of nature and like me you are in a very small space, possible like me with very little funds to, for example, buy products specifically to deal with this temporary frustration.

My 2.5 year old girl is the same, and I have tried a range of different approaches. In the end I think patience is the only way to get through it. She literally can't stay like this forever, right?

I am mainly writing to say that it's totally not your fault that your child spilled juice on tbe coffee table!

Xxx

oakleaffy · 21/08/2024 12:32

AngeloMysterioso · 21/08/2024 12:25

I’m LOL-ing at the suggestion to “supervise better”! So simple! So obvious!

But it is the truth - Close supervision will stop these destructive behaviours.
Three children so close in age is a lot for anyone to contend with- one toddler can be entertained easily.

But three young children when you only have two arms?..not so easy.

Peonies12 · 21/08/2024 12:31

Drinks at the dining table only, for a start. And sounds like he might be seeking attention, and also need to release energy? Is he going to childcare or children's groups where he can let off steam?

Pip789 · 21/08/2024 12:31

I only have one 2.5 year old (2nd due later this year) so appreciate it's not the same but I do the following:

I let him play in the sink with the water after washing his hands and just put towels down! If he pours water out of his cup elsewhere it gets confiscated. He does this a lot! Likes to make concoctions with water and food... we do also have a water table in the garden which he loves but ours is mid renovation so not always that accessible.

We use the magnetic locks and keep the magnets up high! He knows how to use a magnet if he can get his hands on it but can't override them like the other locks we've tried - I'm not sure anybody could override them without pulling the cupboard door off. Anything like wipes/breakables in a cupboard (pain in the arse!). We can't have crayons etc. out unless directly supervised.

Gave up with separate bags for puzzles - we just have one draw they all get chucked in!

It will pass... at least I hope!

AngeloMysterioso · 21/08/2024 12:30

Honestly he’s been like this since way before baby showed up. He’s been hard work since the day he was born.

At nursery he’s described as a handful… baby has had a few settling sessions as he’ll be going one day a week from Sept and they’ve all remarked how easy going he is by comparison! He’s better behaved for his grandparents, but there’s two of them (and baby doesn’t go to theirs yet) so they’re able to divide and conquer. Plus they have a bigger house with lots more space.

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oakleaffy · 21/08/2024 12:26

Definitely sounds like attention seeking.

ANY attention, even if you are shouty and crying, is better than none.

Outdoor exercise and play is essential to keep young children happy and calm.

He sounds bored- and probably jealous of the baby.

Can you put them all in a buggy and get them outdoors for a good hard runaround?

Being cooped up in a tiny house {or even a big one} is boring.

Toddlers need lots of activity, their brains are like sponges, taking everything in.

Exercise, and more exercise. Wears them out so the indoor destructiveness {out of sheer boredom} will hopefully be diminished.

AngeloMysterioso · 21/08/2024 12:25

I’m LOL-ing at the suggestion to “supervise better”! So simple! So obvious!

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LoremIpsumCici · 21/08/2024 12:23

cosyleafcafe · 21/08/2024 12:18

😕Not sure the idea of tying a child to a table is a 'helpful reply'.

That was the 50s solution, for me in the 70s we had “play pens” literally toddler sized cages. Not recommended these days…

Mandarinaduck · 21/08/2024 12:22

Oh my goodness he sounds like a handful! Also, it sounds like you are doing everything you possibly can. I would have cried too. I did laugh at the aunt tying the toddler to the table leg. That sounds very relatable. I do hope your little velociraptor will grow out of it!

LoremIpsumCici · 21/08/2024 12:21

We have a baby gate across the kitchen doorway. He’s worked out how to open it.

We had to get one of the baby gates with a foot pedal that requires the weight of an adult on it for it to open.

It’s tough, but you’re not alone. Many of us have been through it as lots of toddlers are like this! Mine decided to climb the curtains one day and brought them crashing down. The house will often be like a bomb site so don’t feel a failure,

we used to joke that any day where kids were alive fed and happy was a successful day.

itsgettingweird · 21/08/2024 12:19

Was also going to suggest seatbelt clip.

With toy boxes is there anywhere else they can be stored? She's in garden?

Being a few things in at a time they he chooses.

Do you have a garden? Water play tray and swing etc are great for kids who sensory seek like your ds. Or big soft bricks for inside.

Has this behaviour started since the baby was born?

Does he go to nursery and what is he like there?

Sorry for all the questions. There will be some helpful solutions but they are only helpful if they are practical !

SummerSplashing · 21/08/2024 12:18

@AngeloMysterioso

one thing you can do easily is fit small bolts at the top of your doors to contain him in the room you're in. He shouldn't be left alone long enough to do some of these things.

cosyleafcafe · 21/08/2024 12:18

EveryKneeShallBow · 21/08/2024 11:53

That sounds very upsetting. How old are your other DC? Are you able to find ways to keep a closer eye on him?

I had an elderly aunt who had had a toddler and twins and once admitted that she tied the toddler to the leg of the table so she could deal with the twins. They all survived and were in their 50s by the time she shared this. I hope you get some helpful replies.

😕Not sure the idea of tying a child to a table is a 'helpful reply'.

Kipperthedawg · 21/08/2024 12:18

BlackeyedSusan · 21/08/2024 12:15

Don't replace soap dispenser. Use bar soap.

Keep zip locked bags out of reach.

Set up some messy play somewhere cleanable. (High chair over big mat in kitchen maybe) I used water as it would dry not sticky.

Supervise better. (Some kids just can't be left alone, which I learned the hard way)

The old baby car seat was useful for toilet trips. Strap in, place in safe place, special toy, pop to the loo.

I disagree about the messy play. You're not talking your standard toddler here. You're talking Godzilla toddler. Messy play can never be contained with such a beast. We only ever did messy play outside with the door locked so we couldn't go back in until he was stripped down to a nappy and carried, wriggling, back in straight to a bath.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 21/08/2024 12:17

AngeloMysterioso · 21/08/2024 12:10

We have child proofing locks on things. He’s worked out how to open them.

We have a baby gate across the kitchen doorway. He’s worked out how to open it.

We have the spill proof cups. He’s worked out how to pour water out of them.

You know that scene in Jurassic Park when they realise that the velociraptors have figured out how to open doors? That’s my life. I have three children, one of which is a breastfed baby so I can’t just hover over him all day long.

Edited

Thing is that child one is more of a stegosaurus (able to wander around munching on stuff until attacked) and child three is more of a dinosaur egg (stays mostly still, need to avoid it being cracked).

You need to concentrate on your mini raptor herding. Nothing breakable, they all love pulling out baby wipes and pouring stuff out, but they need something more entertaining to keep them from pissing off Indomummyis Regina.

BlackeyedSusan · 21/08/2024 12:16

Ps it could be much worse. They could be a poo smearer like my friends kid.

Kipperthedawg · 21/08/2024 12:16

We also had some safe cupboards with things he could pull everything out of. We just got used to living with tupperware all over the floor for a year or so.

My DH once forgot to lock the spice drawer. That was a fun afternoon.

BlackeyedSusan · 21/08/2024 12:15

Don't replace soap dispenser. Use bar soap.

Keep zip locked bags out of reach.

Set up some messy play somewhere cleanable. (High chair over big mat in kitchen maybe) I used water as it would dry not sticky.

Supervise better. (Some kids just can't be left alone, which I learned the hard way)

The old baby car seat was useful for toilet trips. Strap in, place in safe place, special toy, pop to the loo.

LoremIpsumCici · 21/08/2024 12:15

AngeloMysterioso · 21/08/2024 12:02

Eldest is 4 and about to start school, and youngest is 9 months.

He’s now big enough to reach door handles to open doors, and he’s worked out how to open the child safety lock things on cupboards and drawers. We’ve taken to putting cable ties round some of them but that isn’t really practical.

He has also figured out how to undo his seat belt in the car which means I end up having to stop several times during every journey we ever take so I can strap him back in.

He and the eldest share a bedroom and the sitting room is the only living space (also has the dining table in there) so there’s nowhere else he could have his drink. He only has juice once a day but even when it’s just water, he pours it everywhere. Even the munchkin 360 cups, he worked out that all he has to do is pull the rubber bit up and he can pour the water out.

I used to have one cupboard they could go into…like pots and pans and Tupperware to play with. Every cupboard not safe you really have to get key locks for like in Uni halls kitchens.

Mine also would unclip their car seat. I ended up buying a car seatbelt buckle guard/lock. They have them on Amazon.

As for food /drink, can put child size table in kitchen? Or put a rug under dining table and have a sit in seat at dining table for all food/drink other than plain water.

Octavia64 · 21/08/2024 12:14

Mine were like this.

In the end their bedroom was no furniture and a futon pad only on the floor to sleep on.

The lounge had pretty much everything taken out of it except sofa and chairs and toys. Fire had a guard.

We didn't have a nice house for a long time.

Maray1967 · 21/08/2024 12:13

Can you check out better stair gates etc? I’m sure DS2 knew how ours opened, but they were actually quite hard to open - physically, I mean. He wasn’t strong enough to open it. MIL couldn’t do it either.

Kipperthedawg · 21/08/2024 12:12

Omg we used to say the same thing about the raptor scene 😂

Have you tried the magnetic locks. So you can't open them without sliding a magnet over the front? And then keep the magnets very high up?

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