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to think re-scanning 32 items out of a 66 item shop isn't a sensible check?

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DwightDFlysenhower · 21/08/2024 11:25

I'd used a self-scanner because it was a big shop and I'd carefully packed all my cold stuff together, heavy things at the bottom of bags, bread on top etc.

I don't mind being selected for a check, but when it's nearly half the items I just don't think it's reasonable. Apparently it's changed from ten items to a percentage of the shop (not sure whether that's value or number of items). There was nothing wrong with my scanning, so it wasn't as if it flagged a problem and asked for more, it was 30+ from the outset.

I'd have preferred it to have just sent me to a manned checkout to unload it all onto the belt if it needed so many to be re-scanned.

It took ages, while other people were waiting for approvals and help, and although the person doing it tried to be careful there really isn't enough space to unpack and re-pack carefully when you're scanning so much. And obviously they have to take from all levels of the bags, and the shopper can't touch it in case it looks like you're concealing something. I've come home and found my cheese has been ripped open and my chocolate eclairs have been squashed flat under my potatoes.

AIBU to think that 30+ items being re-scanned at the self-checkout is impractical as a check?

OP posts:
Nadeed · 21/08/2024 18:11

@SerendipityJane Fine. But I always carry a back up method of payment, unless I am literally popping out for milk.

SerendipityJane · 21/08/2024 18:09

Nadeed · 21/08/2024 18:02

I don't pay by phone, but I have been behind people who are struggling to pay with their phone, and sometimes had to use a card. Not to carry a backup is a bit foolish.

No point in having it on your phone then.

Not sure it's a Google problem. I have a suspicion it's my bank playing silly buggers. Either way it's not the fault of the poor staff who have to bear the brunt of it.

Nadeed · 21/08/2024 18:02

I don't pay by phone, but I have been behind people who are struggling to pay with their phone, and sometimes had to use a card. Not to carry a backup is a bit foolish.

Misthios · 21/08/2024 18:02

I use self-scan always in Asda, packing as I go. I generally only get pinged for a check if I have added then removed things or had difficulty scanning an unrecognised barcode. It seems that they have to rescan a few items up to a specific value rather than a number - I have seen the checkout people keeping checking the handset to see if they have to scan more rather than knowing from the start that they have to scan 5, 10 or whatever.

Even with the random pings it is far better than having to go to a manned checkout.

SerendipityJane · 21/08/2024 17:57

Nadeed · 21/08/2024 17:48

In my local marks and spencers there is always a longer queue for the self scan checkouts that take cash. Two take cash and cards, three take cards only.

Of late, much more a bugbear than the rescans are the failures of Google Pay. Quite a challenge if you don't carry a card as backup ...

Nadeed · 21/08/2024 17:48

In my local marks and spencers there is always a longer queue for the self scan checkouts that take cash. Two take cash and cards, three take cards only.

SerendipityJane · 21/08/2024 17:22

The tinfoil hatted among us will have noticed that some self checkouts have cameras now. And since they are using "AI" cameras for the veg weighing, it's only a matter of time ....

CandidAquaBiscuit · 21/08/2024 17:20

This is so annoying this is why I stopped using them in the end was getting really frustrating

SerendipityJane · 21/08/2024 17:19

BloodandGlitter · 21/08/2024 16:54

Weirdly my self scan shopping hasn't been checked in Tesco for two years now. I could have made a fortune.

There is a shit load of data behind the process. They know your average shop. What it contains. When and where you shop. Probably even a seasonal record of your habits.

As long as you stay within the parameters, you will be low on the list.

A few years ago I got selected for a rescan. Only what I didn't know was that of you asked for a loaf to be sliced, they print a different code for it. And I being a bit too quick had scanned the uncut load before getting it sliced.

The rescan flagged it, which puzzled me at first as I knew I had scanned it and it was the only loaf in the shop.

Got "randomly" checked for 8 weeks after that ....

caramac04 · 21/08/2024 17:17

I won’t use the self scan checkouts. I once took my Dd with her toddler and I had my baby dgd with me to Tesco’s and for the first time used scan and go.
We both had (very) full trolley recheck. One after the other, not at the same time.
little ones were fractious, as was I.
I have never used scan and go again and never will.
I would rather wait in a queue frankly.

InformEducateEntertain · 21/08/2024 17:13

I love self scan. I mostly get deliveries so going to an actual shop is an adventure. Self scan makes it more fun. Also I am genuinely surprised at how little checking goes on. I wouldn't and never have stolen but it feels like it would be incredibly easy to do so.

MissSueFlay · 21/08/2024 16:57

I usually do click & collect, but had to do a big in-store shop which I did with self scan. It was over £200 and I got selected for a FULL SHOP check - the checkout assistant couldn't believe it, I felt very sorry for him. I called the manager over to complain - absolutely nothing they could do apparently, so I abandoned the trolley, went to another shop to get what I needed for dinner and did a click & collect for the next day. They wasted my time so I wasted theirs, I was polite about it because it wasn't their fault.

I rang to complain, said all the stuff but absolutely no apology, no goodwill gesture or anything. I wanted to know if there was some kind of market on my Clubcard account (because if I sip in store I ALWAYS get some level of check) but they said it was random...

And while I was talking to the manager, someone ran out of the fire exit at the other end of the store with bags full of spirits and hopped on a bike...

BloodandGlitter · 21/08/2024 16:54

Weirdly my self scan shopping hasn't been checked in Tesco for two years now. I could have made a fortune.

SerendipityJane · 21/08/2024 16:36

jannier · 21/08/2024 15:51

I had a full rescan at Christmas....husband had swapped the strawberries for a better date without removing and rescanning. I asked them to take me to a till sat down watching how they repacked it all.

There is probably a vogue for bored kids pranking customers by dropping random items in their shopping for the lolz if they get caught in a rescan.

Also, if you are using the scan as you shop, and someone "accidentally" takes something out of your trolley, you still pay for it.

(Working with technology since the 70s ...)

KrisAkabusi · 21/08/2024 16:24

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 21/08/2024 14:19

Is this normal practice in all supermarkets?

I've never done self-scan though I do use self-checkouts. I've never had a check except when the bloody scales don't pick something up. It would really piss me off.

A lot of people in these threads seem to be unlucky. I've been using Tesco self scan for about two years. My first three visits after registration were checked. After that it was almost a year before I had a random check. That needed to scan 6 items. Since then I've only had random checks twice, both for just a few items. And I usually have a trolley full of goods, not just small baskets. And I've often removed items after finding a deal. It's never been a problem.

jannier · 21/08/2024 15:51

I had a full rescan at Christmas....husband had swapped the strawberries for a better date without removing and rescanning. I asked them to take me to a till sat down watching how they repacked it all.

PotterHead1985 · 21/08/2024 15:40

If I was waiting for an alcohol approval and the assistant tried to do it in the middle of someone's recheck I'd politely say to finish with that person first. Because I'd expect the same if it was my recheck. Hope I'm not jinxing myself here but I haven't had a recheck in ages. I always slightly hold my breath when I get to the till point!

Sparrowball · 21/08/2024 15:39

Brefugee · 21/08/2024 15:30

i literally don't care if someone wants to buy alcohol: they can finish scanning my shop then do that.

But as i said it's moot because i won't use these any more and any shop that tries to insist doesn't get my custom. I doubt they care

Whether you refuse to use it or not, do you think it might be possible that staff are instructed to prevent a long queue forming, even if a customer speaks to them in a "teacher voice", like you did by your own admission?

Brefugee · 21/08/2024 15:30

Sparrowball · 21/08/2024 15:23

A man speaking to someone in a demeaning manner would be a Karen.

Have you ever considered that maybe staff are instructed to pause scanning to approve an alcohol purchase etc to prevent a long queue?

The issue isn't the staff, it's that the supermarket cuts cost by not having enough available to deal with all these issues. That's not the staff's fault, and I highly doubt they're trying to make our lives more difficult, delay us or ruin our eclairs.

Edited

i literally don't care if someone wants to buy alcohol: they can finish scanning my shop then do that.

But as i said it's moot because i won't use these any more and any shop that tries to insist doesn't get my custom. I doubt they care

Sparrowball · 21/08/2024 15:25

Hoppinggreen · 21/08/2024 14:57

How about if you just put Karen?
Because the term used was not "Male Karen"

Edited

I didn't use "male Karen" because I presumed the posters on this site are predominantly women.

I apologise for assuming genders here, but I still just call male Karens 'Karens'.

SerendipityJane · 21/08/2024 15:24

Last time I was selected for a scan it was 10 items that became a full scan on item 8.

I was "that" customer that requested the assistant took the trolley to a till with a belt and unloaded it nicely so it could be repacked nicely. This was a cat/pigeons moment as all the belt tills had queues and I had (very politely) made the point that I wasn't going to re-queue because of their systems. And I also politely declined their attempts to push me into a queue.

Eventually they had to use a bigger shop self service till - even then that meant jumping the queue for those. I let them unpack and i repacked.

Annoyingly my scan was 100% spot on. It really was a "random" check.

Meanwhile :

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/08/16/self-checkouts-went-too-far-admits-morrisons-boss/

Self-checkouts ‘went too far’, admits Morrisons boss

Supermarket to cut back on the technology in its shops, amid a growing backlash

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/08/16/self-checkouts-went-too-far-admits-morrisons-boss

Sparrowball · 21/08/2024 15:23

Brefugee · 21/08/2024 14:54

show me an example of a man being called a "Karen"

i will continue to tell the staff to finish attending to me, if they interrupt me by wanting to do a scan, before attending other customers as much as i like, btw.

Wandering off in the middle of a job isn't "doing their job" it's rude and annoying.

A man speaking to someone in a demeaning manner would be a Karen.

Have you ever considered that maybe staff are instructed to pause scanning to approve an alcohol purchase etc to prevent a long queue?

The issue isn't the staff, it's that the supermarket cuts cost by not having enough available to deal with all these issues. That's not the staff's fault, and I highly doubt they're trying to make our lives more difficult, delay us or ruin our eclairs.

MontagueMoo · 21/08/2024 15:21

The chance of checks like these is the price you pay for using the scan as you shop option.

Stop using it. Go to a till.

Sparrowball · 21/08/2024 15:19

NotbloodyGivingupYet · 21/08/2024 14:16

And yet it is misogynistic, however much you disagree. Just as there are many racial slurs that some people don't mind, most find them offensive so we don't use them. Because we don't wish to offend.

We? Is there a rule about using it?

blobby10 · 21/08/2024 15:06

When self scanning first came in I had my shopping rescanned every shop for about 6 weeks so I gave up doing it myself! It was a big shop (5 of us) so a waste of time if I had to unload it onto the till to be checked after carefully packing as I went. I had hoped that technology would have improved after 20 years but it doesn't sound like it.

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