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Friend borrowed my car and had an accident.

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Bullbreedbliss · 21/08/2024 09:48

So my friend, who is lovely, went on holiday to a remote area in the uk but she was worried as she has an electric car and there are limited charging stations so I let her borrow my car. Unfortunately someone drove into them and damaged the passenger doors. I can still drive the car but I can’t open the damaged doors and it looks awful. It wasn’t her fault as someone drove into her however it was her accident so we are having to deal with her insurance to get it fixed. We are approaching three weeks post accident and we are still waiting for the garage to take the car. First the garage said they were waiting for the insurance company to approve work, but that appears so have been authorised now so I don’t understand what’s taking so long. It’s frustrating as it’s her insurance company so it’s not like I can phone up to talk to them, and we are stuck using the insurance approved garage. I’m starting to feel quite anxious as she goes away abroad for six weeks soon and I feel like the longer we leave it, the less likely that it will be repaired. I feel guilty as I’ve been messaging her for updates and starting to feel like I’m badgering her. Moral of the story.. never lend your car out!

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Fraaahnces · 28/08/2024 13:52

I would be discussing this ad infinitum with wider friendship group. Make sure her name is dirt socially.

RamonaRamirez · 27/08/2024 17:08

Keep asking her for updates on a daily basis! She should feel mortified and put it right asap even if it ends up costing her

how dare she put you through this and not be bothered!

And never lend her as thing again ever once it is sorted

what kind of friend is this!

MoreCardassianThanKardashian · 27/08/2024 17:06

hollyblueivy · 25/08/2024 08:27

Do you believe your friend and can she provide evidence of the issue she alleges her vehicle has?

This with fucking bells on! Surely you'd have noticed a noise? Take it for a second opinion!

Do you have gap insurance for your car?

You shouldn't be out of pocket for your car at all and less reason to be soft about it now she's charging you £1500 for doing her a favour. She's despicable.

Vse500 · 27/08/2024 16:38

Car repairs are taking a while now, especially if it’s classed as minor damage. Mine was 6 weeks before the insurers garage could fit it in and the insurers declined the other quotes I got.

willitevergetwarm · 27/08/2024 14:57

lechatnoir · 21/08/2024 11:31

You absolutely don't have to use the insurers approved garage much as they'd like you to - I'd be ringing the garage and asking when this is going to be booked in as if it's not in the next day or so you'll be getting other quotes and requesting the work is done elsewhere. Insurance work is a good gig for garages as they pay a decent hourly rate for the work and usually over egg the hours so I doubt they'll want to lose the business.

Bodyshops approved by the insurer most def don't get paid good hourly rates or over and above the bare minimum repair time. Everything part needing to be replaced or repaired has to be imaged as does every part that needs painting. The insurance company takes a massive discount on the retail price of the parts and then charges the bodyshop a fee for referring a repair to them.
Some insurers will charge double your excess if you don't use their approved bodyshop but that will be in the small print of the policy.

Bodyshops are busy and don't appreciate being threatened.

Believe me I know, having been in the business for many years.

EnjoyingTheSilence · 27/08/2024 14:33

Well she’s no friend is she.

Flipsock · 27/08/2024 14:14

Wow. This ‘friend’ is a piece of work.

Seasidelife1 · 27/08/2024 13:18

Can she give you permission to talk to her insurance company then you could chase directly. I do this for my Mum’s gas etc, they just put a note on the account that I’m authorised to talk to them (we don’t have power of attorney)

taxguru · 26/08/2024 12:02

Fraaahnces · 25/08/2024 23:06

Sounds like you are going to need a solicitor.

I think a few people upthread mentioned checking their home or car insurance to see if it included a legal helpline.

Fraaahnces · 25/08/2024 23:06

Sounds like you are going to need a solicitor.

KTheGrey · 25/08/2024 14:01

Your friend is sounding less lovely with every update.

What is this excess? On the accident with your car? Either she pays it or you reclaim it from the third party. You should not be left out of pocket by a no fault accident.

HotCrossBunplease · 25/08/2024 08:47

Bullbreedbliss · 24/08/2024 23:53

Update.. so apparently we have damaged their car. We scuffed the wheel which we knew about, told them when it happened and offered to get it fixed. They took car back on Monday and phoned Friday to say the seil/paint is damaged and it’s making a funny noise and they think the wheel axel is damaged. They are estimating 1500 to fix. We had fully comprehensive insurance on it but that ended Monday and apparently you have to report an accident within 48 hours or they may not accept a claim. So that’s us a further 1500 pound out of pocket, it just gets worse and worse. 🙈

This reeks of bullshit.

hollyblueivy · 25/08/2024 08:27

Do you believe your friend and can she provide evidence of the issue she alleges her vehicle has?

Achangearama · 25/08/2024 07:49

Hmmm that sounds very convenient.
However, why are you paying the excess on your car? If it’s via her insurers, I’d assume she was paying it?

whowhatwerewhy · 25/08/2024 05:53

Your so called friend is now playing games, you must of hit her wheel very hard to damage the axle . I'm starting to think she's trying it on .

Bullbreedbliss · 24/08/2024 23:57

It’s in the garage on Tuesday. Depending on what they say it I might have to take settlement and find a new car. I paid 4000 in April, but I think I’ll be lucky to get 3000 for it now minus the 750 pound excess which I will have to wait for while they establish no fault. So even further out of pocket. Arghhh.

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Bullbreedbliss · 24/08/2024 23:53

Update.. so apparently we have damaged their car. We scuffed the wheel which we knew about, told them when it happened and offered to get it fixed. They took car back on Monday and phoned Friday to say the seil/paint is damaged and it’s making a funny noise and they think the wheel axel is damaged. They are estimating 1500 to fix. We had fully comprehensive insurance on it but that ended Monday and apparently you have to report an accident within 48 hours or they may not accept a claim. So that’s us a further 1500 pound out of pocket, it just gets worse and worse. 🙈

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keiciu · 24/08/2024 21:19

Taxguru, this is 'keiciu' , whose post you have replied to. Thank you.
My car was stolen, but then recovered (damaged) by the police 3 weeks later, so I do not have any other party to claim insurance from 😤

Chicheguevara · 24/08/2024 14:40

Bullbreedbliss · 23/08/2024 16:40

Update.. she is offering to go half in any repair costs that aren’t covered by insurance. I’m not sure how I feel about that.

She had the accident so she needs to pay all. None of this accident damage was your fault and you should not have to pay a penny. She is the one who has caused your car to be written off. I think you may lose a friend over your kindness.

taxguru · 24/08/2024 14:35

keiciu · 24/08/2024 12:54

My car went into garage for repairs at the end of June and it is still not ready! I was given crappy tiny courtesy car after 28days passed (during which I had similar replacement car to what I originally had) and insurance company said that according to my insurance agreement, I am only entitled to 'like for like' car for 28 days only. Absolutely crap crap crap service, but can not do anything about it 😤
There's nothing your friend can do at this point, I believe, but wait. Ask her to authorise you to speak on her behalf (especially, that she is going abroad soon) and try calling the insurance. But it wouldn't move your case faster, I am afraid 😟

You claim the "extras" costs via uninsured loss recovery. That includes the full time a hire/courtesy car may be required if not provided/paid for by the insurer. You can also claim lots of other costs too, such as costs of phone calls, taxis to/from the bodyshop if necessary, the loss of your excess, etc etc. The OP needs to start being more proactive and assertive with both her "friend" and the various insurance firms involved. She shouldn't be out of pocket for even a penny if it wasn't her fault and she wasn't the one driving it at the time.

taxguru · 24/08/2024 14:32

Achangearama · 24/08/2024 08:43

She didn’t “cause” it though did she. She happened to be the person driving when a car crashed into it.

Irrelevant. It wouldn't have happened had the OP not lent the car. The friend may not have caused it, but we don't know if she contributed to it by parking badly, or where she shouldn't have done. But that's irrelevant. It wouldn't have been in that place and at that time if the friend hadn't taken it.

It's 100% on the friend to sort this out and ensure the OP isn't out of pocket at all.

keiciu · 24/08/2024 12:54

My car went into garage for repairs at the end of June and it is still not ready! I was given crappy tiny courtesy car after 28days passed (during which I had similar replacement car to what I originally had) and insurance company said that according to my insurance agreement, I am only entitled to 'like for like' car for 28 days only. Absolutely crap crap crap service, but can not do anything about it 😤
There's nothing your friend can do at this point, I believe, but wait. Ask her to authorise you to speak on her behalf (especially, that she is going abroad soon) and try calling the insurance. But it wouldn't move your case faster, I am afraid 😟

Boltonb · 24/08/2024 12:03

Achangearama · 24/08/2024 08:43

She didn’t “cause” it though did she. She happened to be the person driving when a car crashed into it.

But the OP a had absolutely nothing to do with the accident. So the “friend” suggesting that OP should be out of pocket for 50% of the costs is totally outrageous.

If you can’t see this, you need to be aware that you may well be a CF/user in your own life

whoscoatsthatjacket2012 · 24/08/2024 09:08

Have you tried approaching the fault persons insurance company? They might offer a cash in lieu and not write it off. You can then get the repairs done.
It's probably only a CAT N write off

Aliciainwunderland · 24/08/2024 08:58

Bullbreedbliss · 24/08/2024 08:53

my insurance said I have two weeks to get a MOT. If there’s structural damage I’ll have to scrap it otherwise hoping to repair. Will see what they say.

That’s good. I was told that my insurance would have been invalidated as I was driving a car knowingly un road worthy. My case was a bit more clear cut as I def couldn’t open the door.